900名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qxOoyJ0y02023/06/28(水) 12:34:07.51
サッカーは天然芝じゃないとダメなのか？
日本代表が練習に使っている秋津サッカー場が
天然芝だと費用が高いし芝を休めるため稼働率が上げられないから
人工芝に変えようとしたら反対署名が起こったという記事があった
日本代表が練習に使っている秋津サッカー場が
天然芝だと費用が高いし芝を休めるため稼働率が上げられないから
人工芝に変えようとしたら反対署名が起こったという記事があった
905名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZmdhEe4a0
>>900
おいおい幕張に立派な代表の設備あるだろう そっち使えよ 市民のための設備を使うんじゃねーょ
おいおい幕張に立派な代表の設備あるだろう そっち使えよ 市民のための設備を使うんじゃねーょ
906名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NLjCnb4S0
>>905
隣のアパホテルから丸見えだから使いたくないんだっけ。
隣のアパホテルから丸見えだから使いたくないんだっけ。
造る前に気づけよってか。
907名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:b6bMMjDv0
>>906
草生える
草生える
908名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:F187gYdM02023/06/28(水) 14:07:40.20
Bリーグ2021年度(2021-2022)のB1・B2全36クラブ(当時)の営業収入の合計が300億円、営業費用が316億円だったが
この額は同年度のJリーグJ1サンフレッチェ広島の営業収入346億円及び営業費用349億円とほぼ同じ規模
この額は同年度のJリーグJ1サンフレッチェ広島の営業収入346億円及び営業費用349億円とほぼ同じ規模
912名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bLary+j80
>>908
桁一つ間違ってるだろ
桁一つ間違ってるだろ
サンフレッチェの売上は30億円程度や
940名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:b6bMMjDv0
>>908
サンフレッチェすげぇ
サンフレッチェすげぇ
924名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:11U/sxb70
>>908
サンフレッチェが300億も売上あるならソフトバンクや阪神よりも上じゃんw
サンフレッチェが300億も売上あるならソフトバンクや阪神よりも上じゃんw
910名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MDrdyHeu0
>>908
税金サッカーの10分の1でこれとかバスケ強いな
税金サッカーの10分の1でこれとかバスケ強いな
909名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:496ucP2W02023/06/28(水) 14:08:25.97
この知事さあ、選挙の時にヴァンフォーレのネクタイをしてアピールしてたくせに、当選したらこれだもの。
911名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:asd8ytgw02023/06/28(水) 14:12:42.33
中国はなぜ2025年のサッカー クラブW杯開催を放棄したのか
https://www.recordchina.co.jp/b916294-s25-c50-d0193.html
収入の要件が関係している
https://www.recordchina.co.jp/b916294-s25-c50-d0193.html
収入の要件が関係している
FIFAが主催者に少なくとも5700億円の収入を確保するよう要求しており、
しかも、そのうち40％に当たる2300億円が開催国の責任で、収入未達の場合は
この分を補填しなければならない。これは多くの国にとって受け入れがたい条件だ。
また、知名度がはるかに高いW杯でも、22年カタール大会の全体的な収入は
2兆4000億円にすぎなかったことに言及し、クラブW杯を開催しても大きな赤字が
出る可能性が高い。さらに、新たな収入源を確保すべくFIFAが出場チーム数を拡大して
新バージョンのクラブW杯を打ち出したものの、華やかな改革とは言い難い。
中国サッカーの現在の重要課題がサッカーの生態系を早急に回復させることにあり、
クラブW杯を開催するための条件が十分に整ってるとは言い難いことも、見送らざるを
得なかったもう一つの要因だ
中国はなぜ2025年のサッカークラブW杯開催を放棄したのか―中国メディア27日、中国網は、中国が2025年サッカークラブワールドカップの開催を金銭的な理由などにより断念する形になったと報じた。www.recordchina.co.jp
914名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:G+YrregR0
>>911
アメリカで成功しなかったら数回で終わりそうだなこれ
アメリカで成功しなかったら数回で終わりそうだなこれ
925名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:11U/sxb70
>>914
数分おきに名場面があるならいいけど、サッカーは違うから無理だろ
あの国はスポーツでも真剣勝負以外はエンタメだし、2mワーニングとかタイムアウトとか時間制のスポーツでもブレイク入れて観客煽ることに慣れているけど90分間黙って見るなんて難しいぞ。
ハーフタイムショーでも入れないと厳しいな。
数分おきに名場面があるならいいけど、サッカーは違うから無理だろ
あの国はスポーツでも真剣勝負以外はエンタメだし、2mワーニングとかタイムアウトとか時間制のスポーツでもブレイク入れて観客煽ることに慣れているけど90分間黙って見るなんて難しいぞ。
ハーフタイムショーでも入れないと厳しいな。
927名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:11U/sxb70
>>925
韓国の時みたいにアメリカがWCベスト4とか工作したらあり得るかもな。
でもサッカー以外のスポーツでも世界1捨てるほどあるしね。
韓国の時みたいにアメリカがWCベスト4とか工作したらあり得るかもな。
でもサッカー以外のスポーツでも世界1捨てるほどあるしね。
913名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2vEyWgmm02023/06/28(水) 14:17:46.69
なんか山梨に野球の独立リーグ球団できるらしいな。
本拠は山日YBSと富士吉田の富士北麓公園で、ルートインBCに参入目指すらしいが。
甲府は変に揉めると野球に侵食されるぞ。
本拠は山日YBSと富士吉田の富士北麓公園で、ルートインBCに参入目指すらしいが。
甲府は変に揉めると野球に侵食されるぞ。
916名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cyKVcND702023/06/28(水) 14:47:46.17
体育館て最強だよな
920名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:g7Zg/8Co02023/06/28(水) 14:54:48.39
いい商売だな
儲かってないといえば
使用料金減額してもらえたり
921名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:g7Zg/8Co02023/06/28(水) 14:56:30.75
建設費を償却できるくらいの使用料金払ってくれるところなさそうなので
建てられませんｗ
建てられませんｗ
922名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/OUasgQb02023/06/28(水) 15:13:58.60
J2辺りは今後は先細りで厳しそう
もう少しJ1のチーム数減らして集中投資しないと
もう少しJ1のチーム数減らして集中投資しないと
923名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vxU0qpLY02023/06/28(水) 15:14:22.65
降格制度がサカスタ建設の価値を著しく下げている
新幹線駅のJR小倉駅前という街の中心に100億建てたって
月2の平均観客3500人とかありうるんだよな
新幹線駅のJR小倉駅前という街の中心に100億建てたって
月2の平均観客3500人とかありうるんだよな
弱くてもJ1の1リーグにすべきだね
929名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5UhV5uab0
>>923
新幹線から見えるな
好立地で立派なスタジアムを建設しても集客に寄与するもんじゃないという証明だな
新幹線から見えるな
好立地で立派なスタジアムを建設しても集客に寄与するもんじゃないという証明だな
949名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tTs+Mv2N0
>>929
こんなもんに金掛けずに小倉球場をきれいにしておけばホークス一軍二試合
二軍五試合なら簡単にキラパンツの観客動員上回るだろ？
こんなもんに金掛けずに小倉球場をきれいにしておけばホークス一軍二試合
二軍五試合なら簡単にキラパンツの観客動員上回るだろ？
953名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:maS7bJDM0
>>949
確か、北九州市も二軍本拠地公募に応募した(場所は覚えてないが)
確か、北九州市も二軍本拠地公募に応募した(場所は覚えてないが)
で、繁華街が近すぎという理由もあって落ちたはずｗ
959名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:U2tjoND80
>>953
北九州にはホリエモン独立野球球団あるよな
北九州フェニックス
かの国等の野球球団招いてNPBチー厶数16チームだか18チーム拡大しようとニュースになってた
独立球団とかの国野球チームでリーグ作ってシーズン制すればいいのにとは思った
北九州にはホリエモン独立野球球団あるよな
北九州フェニックス
かの国等の野球球団招いてNPBチー厶数16チームだか18チーム拡大しようとニュースになってた
独立球団とかの国野球チームでリーグ作ってシーズン制すればいいのにとは思った
そのリーグのシーズン優勝チームとNPBシーズン優勝球団で真アジアシリーズやりゃいいのに
962名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn2cxiby0
>>959
> そのリーグのシーズン優勝チームとNPBシーズン優勝球団で真アジアシリーズやりゃいいのに
ＮＰＢにはただの罰ゲーム
> そのリーグのシーズン優勝チームとNPBシーズン優勝球団で真アジアシリーズやりゃいいのに
ＮＰＢにはただの罰ゲーム
963名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Z8suU/Nb0
>>962
まあ確かにアジアリーグ発足のみでいいな
釜山 福岡はビートルで手軽に移動可能だけども台湾はどうすんべ
日本国内独立リーグを 福岡に集めるわけにもいかないだろうしな
厶リポ
まあ確かにアジアリーグ発足のみでいいな
釜山 福岡はビートルで手軽に移動可能だけども台湾はどうすんべ
日本国内独立リーグを 福岡に集めるわけにもいかないだろうしな
厶リポ
926名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:l+EcHEpv0
>>923
すごいよな
九州第二の駅隣でこの動員
興味がないどころか嫌われてるとしか言いようがない
すごいよな
九州第二の駅隣でこの動員
興味がないどころか嫌われてるとしか言いようがない
928名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OPFiM0Jc02023/06/28(水) 15:31:28.09
だからさっさとスタジアム規定J1観客15000取っ払えよｗ
エイバルはリーガを6000で戦ってたしプレミアの規定は最低5000だ
Jリーグはプレミアやリーガより上なんかｗ
エイバルはリーガを6000で戦ってたしプレミアの規定は最低5000だ
Jリーグはプレミアやリーガより上なんかｗ
930名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6bVR4HVJ02023/06/28(水) 15:45:02.44
立地も良くて建物も綺麗で、って何で言い訳が許されない状況に自分を追い込むんだろうね
それで客は入らないわ使用料はまともに払わないわで存在意義を問われてるのが今だろうに
客は金と時間を使う価値がないコンテンツだってもう判断を下してる現実からいつまで目を背けるのかね
それで客は入らないわ使用料はまともに払わないわで存在意義を問われてるのが今だろうに
客は金と時間を使う価値がないコンテンツだってもう判断を下してる現実からいつまで目を背けるのかね
933名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VIDOvDTK02023/06/28(水) 15:51:27.88
サッカーを津々浦々にという気持ちはわかるけど、せめてチーム数はもう少ししぼるべきだったと思う
愛媛みたいな県にサッカーチームが２つもあってどうするよって感じ
ギラもアビスパがなければ、せめてアビスパが弱いままだったらという気はするのだが
その辺はリーグでコントロールしてやれと思うわ
愛媛みたいな県にサッカーチームが２つもあってどうするよって感じ
ギラもアビスパがなければ、せめてアビスパが弱いままだったらという気はするのだが
その辺はリーグでコントロールしてやれと思うわ
934名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:t5LrfA5102023/06/28(水) 15:54:21.91
野球場なら県民は歓迎するよ
935名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BDmq6j1/02023/06/28(水) 16:04:37.31
ここで何を言おうがサッカースタジアムの建設は進むしJリーグ全体で自治体から200億以上の優遇措置を受けている
お前らの「負け」な
もっと賢く生きようぜ？サッカー以外のプロスポーツ（笑）さんたちはさ
お前らの「負け」な
もっと賢く生きようぜ？サッカー以外のプロスポーツ（笑）さんたちはさ
942名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CxNoic270
>>935
あと実現するのは鹿嶋と長崎と広島だけだろ
それで打ち止めだよ
あと実現するのは鹿嶋と長崎と広島だけだろ
それで打ち止めだよ
ここからはBリーグアリーナ
938名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D9rF12sH02023/06/28(水) 16:46:01.40
ちなみに山梨は3000人以上収容のアリーナがない（47都道府県で唯一）
939名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iHsP074j02023/06/28(水) 16:47:26.37
俺はヴァンフォーレ甲府の試合見たりするし山梨県に行きたいと思ってる
去年の天皇杯は本当に良いもの見せてもらった
でもやっぱ専スタが良いかなw
去年の天皇杯は本当に良いもの見せてもらった
でもやっぱ専スタが良いかなw
945名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5n/+tKCV02023/06/28(水) 18:28:11.81
この山梨の知事お金がないのに富士山登山鉄道建設と言っているからあきれる
地盤がよくないしいつ噴火するかわからないところに運賃が一万円の鉄道建設なんて無理だろう
EVバスで充分だろ
地盤がよくないしいつ噴火するかわからないところに運賃が一万円の鉄道建設なんて無理だろう
EVバスで充分だろ
946名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q3839t+a0
>>945
記事読むと知事は何も言ってないんだけどな
記事読むと知事は何も言ってないんだけどな
948名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5n/+tKCV0
>>946
この記事にないけどググれば出てくる
この記事にないけどググれば出てくる
運賃は1万円の試算も “富士山登山鉄道構想”に賛否の声 世界文化遺産登録から10年の節目に…【news23】
https://newsdig.tbs.co.jp/articles/-/558712?display=1
運賃は1万円の試算も “富士山登山鉄道構想”に賛否の声 世界文化遺産登録から10年の節目に…【news23】 | TBS NEWS DIG (1ページ)22日で世界文化遺産の登録決定から10年の節目を迎えた富士山。その富士山に鉄道を走らせる「登山鉄道構想」が浮上しています。車の渋滞などの課題解決に期待を寄せる声がある一方、反対の声も上がっています。新型… (1ページ)newsdig.tbs.co.jp
952名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q3839t+a0
>>948
スレ違い
スレ違い
954名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5n/+tKCV0
>>952
富士山登山鉄道が優先事項になって前の知事が推進していたスタジアムは後回しにしたから関係はある
富士山登山鉄道が優先事項になって前の知事が推進していたスタジアムは後回しにしたから関係はある
950名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tTs+Mv2N0
>>945
やるなら国だろ
やるなら国だろ
951名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5n/+tKCV0
>>950
知事に言ってくれ
知事に言ってくれ
947名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4Dskruzh02023/06/28(水) 18:36:20.89
スキー場のリフトがあれば手軽なんだがな
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