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【山梨県】「持続可能性なき建設」サッカーなど総合球技場 建設に改めて否定的な考え「甲府の使用料減免措置の見直し避けられず」

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308名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pDi/32jE02023/06/27(火) 16:47:43.13
bリーグの沖縄アリーナとjリーグの味の素スタジアムのチケット料金を見比べてみた
沖縄アリーナはコートに近いほど高く真近の席は一切の値引きが無くシーズンチケットもない
味の素スタジアムは縦に区切られてて近くも遠くも同じ料金
総じてbリーグの料金は高いしこの辺にjリーグの意識の低さを感じる
人気のある座席は高くしろよ
310名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZgbuXE8202023/06/27(火) 16:50:32.17
またやらかしたみたいよサッカー選手
これも記事になって炎上するんだろうなw

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314名無しさん@恐縮ですID:etieHwt60
>>310
クラブの教育がなってない
319名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2kYqQFs40
>>310
プライベートで会っても話しかけるなは凄いな

何勘違いしてんだろ、Jリーグの2部ごときが

マンU行ってから言え、行くようなやつは言わんけど

312名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eZMUm7D502023/06/27(火) 16:53:28.07
札幌ドームの喜劇を見ろ
313名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8rjEQnBw02023/06/27(火) 16:54:00.37
だいたい三笘だの久保だの自画自賛しているがどこでどのチームにいるかふつうに知らんもんな。久保なんか誰?て感じで韓流のチャングンソクみたいな登場でびっくりしたもんな。ま、朝鮮かもしれんけど。
315名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2kYqQFs402023/06/27(火) 16:56:08.76
(解決策)
・子持ち家庭をサッカー移住させる
・移住者はサッカーエリートとして幼少期から指導(割引、職の斡旋あり)、県内からもOK
・トップチームはユース出身者、県民枠あり
・育った選手は売り払って経営安定
・アホーター禁止
・県内の学生に無料デー
・応援は県内学生の吹奏楽部や楽団
・県民の日は無料
・Jで勝つことより県民第一のチームを目指す

これぐらい徹底してやれば税金投入もありなんじゃないかな

317名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KXIQnc8702023/06/27(火) 16:58:35.59
サッカーに限らずだけどさ
競技場が欲しい人が自前で作って、維持管理も含めて自分で運営すれば良いんじゃないの?

なんで自治体とか他者に作ってと要求するのか

318名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QsU4SIGE02023/06/27(火) 16:59:27.98
モンテディオ山形の社長 サッカー専用スタジアムは作る意味がない
https://hochi.news/articles/20220429-OHT1T51025.html?page=1
サッカーで稼働できる日数は20日ぐらいしかないですよ。

20日間のために100億200億円をかけてもの作りますかっていうお話なんです。
やっぱり多くの方たちが使える環境を作ることが一番重要だと思っていて。

日本のサッカー場で、マネしたいところはないですね。
むしろ参考にするとしたら、野球場やBリーグのアリーナですね。
プライドを持てるようなスタジアムにしないといけない。
日ハムさんが作っている新スタジアムは一つの方向性。
ああいうものを目指していかないとやる意味がない。

320名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fFgVlJUZ02023/06/27(火) 17:04:24.76
さっかあ豚オヤジ「さっかあは文化やでだから採算度外視や」
321名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8rjEQnBw02023/06/27(火) 17:04:30.31
構想が甘かった。バブル経済下ならプロ野球の横に大規模競技場つきのプロサッカーチームができる試算だったんだろ。バブル崩壊ですべてが狂ったてこと。失われた30年-民主党とジェーリーグの無駄な30年。
323名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QsU4SIGE02023/06/27(火) 17:05:31.81
30周年のJリーグ、完全にオワコン化
https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1685079457/
プロ野球と対照的 W杯後も人気回復せず

Jリーグ関連の配信記事は、とにかくアクセス数が伸びません。
時折アクセス数を稼ぐものもありますが、それは浦和レッズのサポーターや
サッカー協会の金銭事情という、どちらかというと不祥事などのネガティブなものですw

国内サッカーの人気が落ちたことで、それで食べていたメディアの人間の転職も目立ちます。
サッカーメディアに属していた人間はほかの原稿が書けないし、使える人材が少ない。
フリーライターも、Jリーグでは食えないから取材の頻度が落ちて、
結果的に記事のクオリティが落ちるという悪循環に陥っています
Jリーグはもはや、欧州リーグへの移籍のための下部組織化しつつある。

Jリーグが日本の文化なんならオワコンになるわけないw

324名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UozXV+ZP02023/06/27(火) 17:06:11.39
Jリーグの理念、地域密着→ただの集り
325名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9bRw3sDF02023/06/27(火) 17:06:16.84
山形社長 「日ハム新球場が理想」
長崎会長 「お手本は広島カープ」
鹿島社長 「客席減らす。ガラガラに見えると恥ずかしい」

札幌社長 「使用料払えません」
FC東京  「サッカーは稼げない」
清水社長 「ファンが高齢化し坂が登れない」
広島社長 「実は債務超過。お金貸してくれ」

川渕三郎 「サッカー場はオヤジばかり、プロ野球は若い女性だらけ」
本田圭佑 「クラブに企業名を入れられるようにすべき。経営が成り立ってない」

Bリーグ  「昇降格制度やめます、プロ野球型に変更w」

328名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bxOcvEtR02023/06/27(火) 17:07:12.52
もうくだらないことにお金使う時代じゃないんだ
329名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tqlPfIoG02023/06/27(火) 17:07:25.65
【調査】「サッカー、バスケなど他競技が野球の人気を上回ると思うか」との問いに対し、「すでに上回っている」が34・2% ★3 [尺アジ★]
【調査】「サッカー、バスケなど他競技が野球の人気を上回ると思うか」との問いに対し、「すでに上回っている」が34・2% ★3 [尺アジ★]
330名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8rjEQnBw02023/06/27(火) 17:07:49.00
井上尚弥>Jリーグだもんな
331名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9bRw3sDF02023/06/27(火) 17:07:55.39
札幌ドーム赤字、想定より拡大 売上高も減る見込み
https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1687836967/
24年3月期 コンサート「新モード」の不発が要因
332名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+tNfoFU102023/06/27(火) 17:08:13.05
さすが山梨は健全だな
333名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9bRw3sDF02023/06/27(火) 17:08:40.23
川淵三郎氏、プロ野球の若い女性ファン増加に驚き
https://www.nikkansports.com/soccer/news/202305100000015.html
プロ野球をひさしぶりに見に行って驚いた。

ネット裏に若い女性がたくさんいた。
若い女性や男性、とくに女性が目立った。びっくりした。
Jリーグのファン層は、年々、高齢化する傾向にある。
サッカーもこれくらい若い人たちの人気を集められるように工夫しなきゃと。
僕に言わせれば、プロの価値は観客動員がすべてだ

335名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yuBGXEjn02023/06/27(火) 17:09:41.25
建築費はともかく維持費ぐらい払えよとは思うが2週に1回の収益じゃまあ無理よね
336名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TEnWwZ6F02023/06/27(火) 17:10:04.02
そもそも甲府がJ参入する時点で自治体たかりだからな
OBがスポンサー無視(JSL時代地元の中小鉄工所の社長にすべて出してもらってた)でJリーグ目指すぞーとかやり出して県や市に資本金やらスタジアムやらすべて出してもらってた
当然会社作ってもスポンサーの集め方知らずに運営やったところで持つわけがなく4年で経営危機
その時も自治体に穴埋めしてとたかりにいったら当然ふざけるなとブチギレでもう潰せになった
まあその後まともに営業できる人が入って建て直してJ1昇格だの天皇杯優勝だのになったがそれで球技場が建つわけがないわな
337名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fKaJviRA02023/06/27(火) 17:10:32.77
少子化、地方過疎、これで地域密着とか言いながら税金を当てにする経営に無理があったんじゃないかなJリーグは
w
338名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8rjEQnBw02023/06/27(火) 17:11:05.95
サッカー観に行くと疎外されるらしいよ。
よい子は絶対行ったゃだめだよ。サカ豚という不良にオルグされるから。
339名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QXHxr/uj02023/06/27(火) 17:12:29.27
だったらヴァンフォーレは出て行くまで
理解のある自治体はいくらでもある
失ってから気付く事もあるでしょ
文化に投資できない田舎に未来はないよ
347名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YFM+DGD70
>>339
そうそうさっさと出てった方がいい
342名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RwFQeRk50
>>339
乱立状態なのに行くところあるのw
大昔と違って誘致したいところなんてないよ
500名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ClWMmVsj0
>>342
甲府クラスの都市で財政が豊かなところねぇ 山梨にあったか?
県外ねえ だいたいみんな何処もいてどーにもならんと思うわ
340名無しさん@恐縮ですID:forliAbp02023/06/27(火) 17:12:34.44
思い出してみれば
日本リーグ時代のサッカーはガラガラだった
はいおじさんです
343名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8rjEQnBw02023/06/27(火) 17:14:57.85
Bりーぐも失敗する、みてきそうなるき。
ローラーゲームがましやったと。
344名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yuBGXEjn02023/06/27(火) 17:15:44.50
民間には貸し出しません、Jクラブが占有します
でも維持費は税金でお願いします

よくよく考えたらなんかおかしくない?

346名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qeGpEsZ902023/06/27(火) 17:16:31.81
文化って表現面白い
球蹴りバカにするときに使わせてもらうわ
348名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RwFQeRk502023/06/27(火) 17:17:17.08
Bリーグこけたとしても
アリーナは使い道ある
サッカースタジアムはどうしよもない
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