そりゃ税リーグ言われるわw
地元のクラブってだけでなんでここまで優遇しなきゃいけないの
公共性守ってるわ
あと平塚市もまとも
つか山梨はカネがないんだよ
道志村とか議会が山梨県→横浜市に編入の議決を出したのに県が無視してる
道志村は横浜市の水源地で全て横浜市がインフラを賄って山梨県はやらずボッタクリ状態になってる
道志川は山梨県の水源地ですらないので横浜市の援助がなければゴースト村になってるぞ
あと横浜市も
横浜市は野球に特化したから
もともと高校野球ですら税リーグ倍集客力がある
横浜でサッカーを後援しても効果がないと身をもって思い知らされた
横浜は絶対にタマケリ殺すマンの藤木の爺さんが
あちこちでサッカー潰しやってるみたいよ
影響力あるからな
夏の県予選とか準々決勝からハマスタが売り切れる
秋の準々決勝ですら保土ヶ谷が売り切れる
その時点で三ツ沢の税リーグの2倍の集客力があるし
せめて全試合を日産でやって半分の3万いれてくれれば後援してやってもいいけど現状じゃ話にならんわ
そもそも横浜市はラグビーWカップですらほぼ放置されてたレベルなのに今さらサッカーがだよ
身近な場所に高校野球というマジモンスポーツ文化がある
比較したら何でプロ競技を興味のない俺らが支えないといけないんだ?
というのが90%以上の住人の相違だからな
残り数%の人間だけで支えろよ
世界には立派なスタジアムがーというそれだけの理由
見栄やプライドのために税金を使わされる
文化ってのは時間かけて醸成されるものであって大声で主張するものじゃないんだよねw
自分から言うのは恐喝であって文化ではない
文化というは地域住人からの自然発生の時
日本にはガチモンの文化として高校野球という存在がある
まずは高校野球を越えたら話を聞いてやる
今すぐ私財をなげうって寄付すべき!
偉大なサッカー文化に金を惜しむのか?この非国民!
大映の永田雅一は私財30億で東京スタジアムを1962年に南千住にたてたぞ
似たような志の奴はサッカーにはおらんのか?
ジャパネットが自費で専用スタジアム建ててる
Jリーグが30年かけてできなかったことをジャパネットはたった3年でやってしまったw
サッカーは文化じゃないだろ。
Jリーグよりも格上のリーグで還暦近いあれがMOMと言うレジャーだろ。
いやレジャーならこんな事になってなかったよ レジャーにも興業にもなっていないから問題なのよ
野球なんか消えてるよ
お前も生きてないのに100年後のこと言い出すの草
観れば観るほど時間の無駄たし
サッカー場は増えるだろう
> >>60
> 残念ながらJ2のサッカーより高校野球のほうが面白い
でもJ2の終盤の昇格争いほど面白いものはないんだぞ。
今日本で一番熱いコンテンツだと思う。
J1の優勝争いなんかよりよっぽど白熱してる。
> でもJ2の終盤の昇格争いほど面白いものはないんだぞ。
> J1の優勝争いなんかよりよっぽど白熱してる。
いびつ
頂上対決より不幸対決の方が盛り上がるとか
※ハタから見たら大して不幸じゃない
「降格したからなに?」
それ言い出したら何に対しても言える
アニメゲーム芸能他のスポーツエンタメ全てを含めて
「大人気だから何?盛り上がってるから何?」
そういうのは不毛な表現
ただの揚げ足
ゲームは詳しくないがそれでも一番盛り上がるのは頂上対決
J1ドベとJ2トップの崖っぷち対決が一番とか悪趣味
だよな。こういうのは当事者にしか分からない。
サッカーがその人の生活の一部になってる人は少なくない。
それくらいサッカーは人を熱くさせる。
そしてその熱さを地域住民が一体となって共感共有できるのがサッカーの強み。
これはアニメや芸能では難しい。
それスタジアム関係ねえじゃん
収容人数は関係あるけど
>頂上対決より不幸対決の方が盛り上がるとか
いや、昇格だよ。
昇格って優勝よりも価値があるよって話し。
もちろん降格争いも白熱するけどね
それも一回目までだな
昇格果たして落ちて再昇格を目指すときにはもうそんなに盛り上がらんし
同じチームが次に盛り上がれるのはやっぱりJ1優勝しかないのよね
逆を言えばそれくらいしか見どころないんだよなあ
J2で面白いのは降格争いだろう
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今年はギラヴァンツのJFL降格争いが熱いよね
とりあえず最下位は抜け出した模様
6/24(土)18:00
J3 第15節
北九州 1-1 長野
ミクニワールドスタジアム北九州
観客数 3077人
北九州って昔は100万都市で、今でも山梨県の人口より10万くらいは多いのに
3千しか集まらないとか、もう無駄だからやめちまえって感じだな。
ミクニスタジアムはギラヴァンツに出て行ってもらった上、人工芝に張り替えるなりして
誰でも簡単に使えるようにした方がいいんじゃないだろうか、マジで。
残念ながらJ2のサッカーより高校野球のほうが面白い
> >>60
> 残念ながらJ2のサッカーより高校野球のほうが面白い
でもJ2の終盤の昇格争いほど面白いものはないんだぞ。
今日本で一番熱いコンテンツだと思う。
J1の優勝争いなんかよりよっぽど白熱してる。
> でもJ2の終盤の昇格争いほど面白いものはないんだぞ。
> J1の優勝争いなんかよりよっぽど白熱してる。
いびつ
頂上対決より不幸対決の方が盛り上がるとか
※ハタから見たら大して不幸じゃない
「降格したからなに?」
それ言い出したら何に対しても言える
アニメゲーム芸能他のスポーツエンタメ全てを含めて
「大人気だから何?盛り上がってるから何?」
そういうのは不毛な表現
ただの揚げ足
ゲームは詳しくないがそれでも一番盛り上がるのは頂上対決
J1ドベとJ2トップの崖っぷち対決が一番とか悪趣味
だよな。こういうのは当事者にしか分からない。
サッカーがその人の生活の一部になってる人は少なくない。
それくらいサッカーは人を熱くさせる。
そしてその熱さを地域住民が一体となって共感共有できるのがサッカーの強み。
これはアニメや芸能では難しい。
それスタジアム関係ねえじゃん
収容人数は関係あるけど
>頂上対決より不幸対決の方が盛り上がるとか
いや、昇格だよ。
昇格って優勝よりも価値があるよって話し。
もちろん降格争いも白熱するけどね
それも一回目までだな
昇格果たして落ちて再昇格を目指すときにはもうそんなに盛り上がらんし
同じチームが次に盛り上がれるのはやっぱりJ1優勝しかないのよね
逆を言えばそれくらいしか見どころないんだよなあ
J2で面白いのは降格争いだろう
今季からDAZNに映す価値なし選手権になってさらにアツい!www
今年はギラヴァンツのJFL降格争いが熱いよね
とりあえず最下位は抜け出した模様
6/24(土)18:00
J3 第15節
北九州 1-1 長野
ミクニワールドスタジアム北九州
観客数 3077人
北九州って昔は100万都市で、今でも山梨県の人口より10万くらいは多いのに
3千しか集まらないとか、もう無駄だからやめちまえって感じだな。
ミクニスタジアムはギラヴァンツに出て行ってもらった上、人工芝に張り替えるなりして
誰でも簡単に使えるようにした方がいいんじゃないだろうか、マジで。
同じ高校野球でも明治神宮大会や軟式野球はほとんど話題にならないので
朝日・毎日・NHKの宣伝に煽られているだけなのでは?
普通に明治大会は客はいるけど?
市民が使用する河川敷のサッカー場は増えるかも知れないけどJリーグは論外だろ
河川敷では野球場潰したら、サッカー場にならずにただの原っぱになるのがオチ
そもそも河川敷レベルでいいんだったらサッカーできる場所だって現状で腐るほどある
増えないよ、どんどん若者がいなくなるのに
その税金は未来ある子供たちにでも使えよ
はっきりそう言われてるし必要だろ
将来性ないから投資したくないってこった
新スタ構想もリニア駅前がポシャったのもかなり前だし、もともとそんなに熱心な話ではないはず
サッカーに親を殺された八百坂のネタに利用しただけ
他の田舎しょぼwそら若い奴東京に逃げるわ
ジャパネットみたいな太いスポンサー連れてこいよ。
既にJ1経験したチームがあって天皇杯で勝っても若者は逃げていきますが
若者が目指す東京23区にJリーグはありません
若者はJリーグなぞ必要としてない
もう平成じゃないんだ
山梨県の高校野球は関東大会のエリアなんだよ
マジで文化として高校野球完敗してる状態
スタジアム建設費、維持費をそれで賄えば良い
サッカー、ラグビー、アメフト、ラクロス、グランドゴルフ、人工芝にしたらいくらでも需要はある。
そしてなにより、いい加減Jリーグは人工芝ピッチを認めろ。
北欧各国もアメリカもトップリーグでの人工芝許可されてるんだぞ。
CLでも人工芝での試合OKだし。
野球の巻き取り式みたいなのじゃなく、ちゃんと砂地の上に敷いた人工芝なら天然芝と遜色ない。
客が入らないから建造しない
と三下り半を突きつけられた坂豚が
サッカーは世界の文化だから税金投入は当然だとわめいてるだけだぞ
発想の転換をして自分がバルセロナでもフランクフルトでもマンチェスターでも行けばいいのに 誰も反対しないよ
そもそもどこの球場で試合するかわかんねえし
試合観戦が第一だからな
球場どころか公立高校のグランドで予選を行うこともある
今はさすがにそれは無いだろ
まあ球場の文句よりなんでも良いから食べ物売ってくれとかその程度の要望だろうな
数年前に
斉藤由貴の出身校の清水ヶ丘高校(今は名前が変わった)に秋のブロック予選を見に行った事があるぞ
スコアボードとかないので自分で得点経過をメモしないといけない
今何回なんだ?とかボールカウントすら不明で草野球みたいだった
強豪校なら自前のグラウンドで公式戦やれる
地元の高校の設備を充実させてくれとかの要望はあるかもな
それはある 清水ヶ丘は県立だけど
税リーグに投入する税金で公式戦をやるグランドなら
試合経過を見れるスコアボードとか設置してくれとか思うわ
間違いなく税リーグより需要は高い
そもそも税リーグスタジアムは公共の施設とは言えんだろ
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I urge you stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it has been only disappointment as well as doubts about deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out an honest platform to fulfill your requirements.I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it was purely disappointment as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, look for a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I urge you stay away from this site. My personal experience with it was nothing but disappointment as well as doubts about deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, seek out an honest service for your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this site. My personal experience with it was purely frustration and concerns regarding scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or even better, look for a more reputable platform to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was nothing but frustration as well as doubts about fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, look for an honest service to meet your needs.
I urge you stay away from this site. My own encounter with it has been purely frustration along with doubts about deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out an honest platform for your needs.
I urge you stay away from this site. The experience I had with it was nothing but frustration and suspicion of scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, seek out a more reputable platform for your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it has been purely disappointment and doubts about fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, look for an honest platform for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it has been purely disappointment along with concerns regarding scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a more reputable site to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it was nothing but frustration and suspicion of fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or even better, seek out a more reputable service for your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it has been purely disappointment along with suspicion of deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, seek out a trustworthy site to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it was only disappointment along with concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, seek out an honest site to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it was purely frustration and concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, find an honest platform to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was only disappointment and suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, seek out a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.