501名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:znC+Q1J902023/06/27(火) 19:59:18.95
海無し県じゃなくて山無し県ってギャグみたいな県名を付けた人もびっくりぽんだね
503名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:x63NquN/02023/06/27(火) 20:01:16.76
サッカーは文化であり地域創生なのにその大前提を理解せず目先の金なんかに囚われ大きなものを失おうとするバカな自治体が多すぎるな呆れるわ
555名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7EQxMpuZ0
>>503
たくさんの人が その存在に価値を見出し お金を出してでも存続させたいと思うのが文化であって
地方自治体がお金を出さなければ維持できないものは もはや文化ではないわ
たくさんの人が その存在に価値を見出し お金を出してでも存続させたいと思うのが文化であって
地方自治体がお金を出さなければ維持できないものは もはや文化ではないわ
558名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aO5eBQwS0
>>555
大阪維新みたいなこと言うんだね
大阪維新みたいなこと言うんだね
547名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gnwW/tC40
>>503
地域創生な結果を出してから言えよわら
現実はただのお荷物
地域創生な結果を出してから言えよわら
現実はただのお荷物
542名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ClWMmVsj0
>>503
Ｊリーグの前はサッカー文化なんて誰も言わないわ 相撲は文化だけど
Ｊリーグの前はサッカー文化なんて誰も言わないわ 相撲は文化だけど
505名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EpSigiff02023/06/27(火) 20:04:50.24
30年そこそこの文化なら
いらないだろw
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507名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8c9wkuNw02023/06/27(火) 20:06:19.87
アビスパみたいにスポンサー頼めば
510名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YmnnCkbN02023/06/27(火) 20:09:21.26
こいつらタカることしか考えてねえよな
512名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OPg7EVLk02023/06/27(火) 20:09:33.95
内田とかJリーグがSDGSのPRチャンネルやってて笑ったな
「お前らこそ持続不可能だろｗ」と思ったわ
まともな人間はやっぱそう思ってんだろな
「お前らこそ持続不可能だろｗ」と思ったわ
まともな人間はやっぱそう思ってんだろな
513名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9Ps6XcSM02023/06/27(火) 20:10:07.87
Jリーグは60クラブになり拡大路線はこれで終わりと宣言してる
つまりここからの弱小で小さなクラブはデカいクラブになるためには立派なスタジアムが必須になる
山梨はクソクラブのままだね
長崎はやる気ある
つまりここからの弱小で小さなクラブはデカいクラブになるためには立派なスタジアムが必須になる
山梨はクソクラブのままだね
長崎はやる気ある
530名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WXYO2beI0
>>513
長崎はジャパネットが金出してるからだ。補助金チューチューとは全然違う。
長崎はジャパネットが金出してるからだ。補助金チューチューとは全然違う。
516名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BBbLvVKY0
>>513
北九州「だなｗ」
北九州「だなｗ」
517名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yuBGXEjn02023/06/27(火) 20:12:13.88
日本でサッカー場の採算取れるようにするにはどうしたらいいんだろう
いくらサッカーで集客しても年20試合ぐらいなら意味がないし
試合ない日はパチンコ屋になるとか儲ける仕組みがないと絶対無理だろ
いくらサッカーで集客しても年20試合ぐらいなら意味がないし
試合ない日はパチンコ屋になるとか儲ける仕組みがないと絶対無理だろ
533名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ibQ9ZDB/0
>>517
地下鉄駅近好立地で稼働率もそこそこよくて100万都市にあるから観客もそこそこ多い仙台スタジアムすら赤字だから結構つんでる
地下鉄駅近好立地で稼働率もそこそこよくて100万都市にあるから観客もそこそこ多い仙台スタジアムすら赤字だから結構つんでる
商業施設併用型だとむしろスタジアムがじゃまになるしなぁ
549名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ClWMmVsj0
>>533
エスコンは核になるのになぁ
エスコンは核になるのになぁ
518名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HWO1wwQV02023/06/27(火) 20:13:37.07
出た サッカーは文化
こいつら呪文のように言っているな
日本ではサッカーは文化じゃない なくなったって
ああそうかで終わる バカだから理解出来ないんだろうけど
こいつら呪文のように言っているな
日本ではサッカーは文化じゃない なくなったって
ああそうかで終わる バカだから理解出来ないんだろうけど
519名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SBu3n7sd02023/06/27(火) 20:14:00.34
持続不可能なJリーグがSDGsを叫ぶ
524名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OPg7EVLk0
>>519
たしか北九州の某クラブはSDGSのPR活動を市から数百万円で請け負ってたと思う
たしか北九州の某クラブはSDGSのPR活動を市から数百万円で請け負ってたと思う
すげーブラックジョークだと思ったわ
ただただ両方バカなだけかもしれんけどｗ
520名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:O8Fw+KiI02023/06/27(火) 20:16:18.52
中央公園で建設が進む新スタジアム単体での経済効果は建設費に加え、開業後の観戦客が使う費用などを合わせ、831億7000万円
広島の建設中のサカスタがこれ
使用料ガーとわめいてるバカはこういう効果を知らない
572名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:e57BLXrj0
>>520
見込みではなく、稼働してからの実績で判断やな。
見込みではなく、稼働してからの実績で判断やな。
522名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aztRuJ2S02023/06/27(火) 20:18:35.66
山梨県
工業製品出荷額 2兆5000億円
農業産出額 970億円
サッカー経済効果 17億円←こんなモンに100億も投資出来るかよwwwww
523名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:g6vMcoAc02023/06/27(火) 20:18:36.23
山梨の知事はリニアの駅の近くに球技場でなく空港造りたいんでしょ
ハンコ知事はぶっ飛んでるな
ハンコ知事はぶっ飛んでるな
525名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gnwW/tC402023/06/27(火) 20:21:12.97
そもそもチームおおすぎでは？
なんチームあるんだろ
なんチームあるんだろ
531名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gnwW/tC402023/06/27(火) 20:28:10.78
チーム数多すぎて戦力も分散、ファンも分散、資金も分散でほとんどいいことないような
昭和バブルのころの感覚でチームふやせばいい普及するて安易なかんかがえで増やしつづけたんだろどうせ
昭和バブルのころの感覚でチームふやせばいい普及するて安易なかんかがえで増やしつづけたんだろどうせ
532名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bwfZo/mB02023/06/27(火) 20:31:25.33
サッカースタジアムとか原っぱでええやろ
J3あたりになると客も入らないんだしさ
無駄に金をかける必要は無いね
J3あたりになると客も入らないんだしさ
無駄に金をかける必要は無いね
561名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8HAW0kMZ0
>>532
ベルマーレ「よし！平塚のはらっぱを潰してサッカー場にしろ！お金はお前らが出せ」
ベルマーレ「よし！平塚のはらっぱを潰してサッカー場にしろ！お金はお前らが出せ」
534名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A1kd1B7202023/06/27(火) 20:32:05.88
サッカースタジアムは誰にも使わせてくれないから「カネ以上に土地の無駄」と言われてるんだよな
2週間に1回しか使わないから周辺に飲食店を作っても繁盛しないから誰もやりたがらないし、月2日以外はゴーストタウンとなってしまう
サッカースタジアムが欲しいのなら自分たちで土地を買って作れよ
サッカー選手が金儲けをするためのスタジアムなんだから、自分たちでカネを出すべきでは？
548名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XrjFAudR0
>>534
サッカーも毎日試合すればいいのにな
サッカーも毎日試合すればいいのにな
554名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gnwW/tC40
>>548
一試合十キロはしるらいから無理でしょ
おれもたまにらランニングでそれくらい走るけど
体力かいふくするのに数日かかるもん
一試合十キロはしるらいから無理でしょ
おれもたまにらランニングでそれくらい走るけど
体力かいふくするのに数日かかるもん
537名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6/Q54pYr02023/06/27(火) 20:34:45.27
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543名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3nhI7l2i02023/06/27(火) 20:38:51.35
もしかしてＪがいつまでも現実にそぐわないスタジアム規格変えないのって、スポンサー招聘含めて自営できないゴミチームを淘汰する為なのかな？
544名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3AaqIEdV02023/06/27(火) 20:39:14.25
税リーグごときが天然芝要求するのがおかしい
545名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3Tt5QbJS02023/06/27(火) 20:39:59.79
サカスタで唯一黒字だった札ドは
日ハムに寄生できてたからだったってバレたからな
パナソニックとかジャパネットとか
ケツモチする大企業なければ作れなくなった
日ハムに寄生できてたからだったってバレたからな
パナソニックとかジャパネットとか
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I highly advise to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it was nothing but frustration and suspicion of fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or even better, seek out a more reputable service for your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it has been purely disappointment along with suspicion of deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, seek out a trustworthy site to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it was only disappointment along with concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, seek out an honest site to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it was purely frustration and concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, find an honest platform to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was only disappointment and suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, seek out a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.