300名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IXKKvHiI02023/06/30(金) 17:24:07.28
サッカーしか娯楽がない国と日本をなぜ一緒にしてしまうのか
301名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5n2W4k0X02023/06/30(金) 17:24:22.56
文化に金を出さない自治体は恥ずかしいよね
443名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XcHFeCRJ0
>>301
単にてめえが好きなだけの娯楽を文化と称しこういう気取った物言いする糞野郎はくたばれと思うわ
今のチェアマンもそうだけども
単にてめえが好きなだけの娯楽を文化と称しこういう気取った物言いする糞野郎はくたばれと思うわ
今のチェアマンもそうだけども
302名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QWSMbHmQ02023/06/30(金) 17:24:43.17
真壁の妹で抜いた
303名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aR2+Tusi02023/06/30(金) 17:25:09.02
ヨーロッパサッカーは日本の相撲みたいなもんだろ
歴史も価値観も違うわ
歴史も価値観も違うわ
304名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fa370vs602023/06/30(金) 17:25:17.69
サッカーは脳に悪いな
305名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KOxPpFwg02023/06/30(金) 17:25:34.03
流石にこの比喩じゃ頷く奴いねーよ…
306名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9IpxuroV02023/06/30(金) 17:25:51.85
リーグの立ち上げ時は既存のプロリーグ（プロ野球）の対抗や歴史がない分、海外の例を出して何とか無理矢理にでも成り立たせる方便ってのは必要だったと思うんだけど、
その方便から一般国民は目が覚めてるのに関係者は自家中毒的な洗脳が解けてない。
折角の30周年なんだから総括して見直すべきは見直すってリーグ自体がやらないと中央集権体制だから改善していかない。
その方便から一般国民は目が覚めてるのに関係者は自家中毒的な洗脳が解けてない。
折角の30周年なんだから総括して見直すべきは見直すってリーグ自体がやらないと中央集権体制だから改善していかない。
307名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SpaRFLzY02023/06/30(金) 17:26:12.07
自前のスタジアム持ってるクラブのサポーターとしては自治体におんぶにだっこで利益だけは凄いですみたいなクラブは平等じゃないとは感じる
維持費もスタジアムの基準への工事費も負担してて補強に使える額が低いとかおかしいだろ
維持費もスタジアムの基準への工事費も負担してて補強に使える額が低いとかおかしいだろ
308名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sfy+172S02023/06/30(金) 17:26:34.14
お前ら国から金だけもらって患者を受け入れない病院こそ無駄だと言うことが分ったろ
309名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aVZJF7Sc02023/06/30(金) 17:26:35.85
税リーガーは所属県の貧困市民に土下座して回れ
食べさせてもらってありがとうございます
食べさせてもらってありがとうございます
311名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MC2cdfX/02023/06/30(金) 17:26:57.60
サッカーのために税金使われるなんて凄く幸せなことだと思うが
312名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fS4672T502023/06/30(金) 17:28:05.05
こんな尊大だったのか…
そりゃ嫌われるわ
そりゃ嫌われるわ
313名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jKgEJNJs02023/06/30(金) 17:29:06.00
若い時からヘディングやりすぎたんだな
314名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kXnlo2AD02023/06/30(金) 17:29:10.98
君たちは税リーグだ！
315名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ql9nRE1V02023/06/30(金) 17:29:30.28
サカ豚金集めてがたてろよ
世界的競技だから余裕だろww
世界的競技だから余裕だろww
316名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CRdTPjaM02023/06/30(金) 17:30:17.65
ナイター設備のやきう場ですら格安で使えて整備費維持費は税金
ほぼ使われてないようなのも業者入れてメンテナンスしてる
税金泥棒は野球
ほぼ使われてないようなのも業者入れてメンテナンスしてる
税金泥棒は野球
327名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2KZ8PpsG0
>>316
格安どころか芝が傷むから全く貸し出されない球蹴りスタジアムが泣くぞwww
格安どころか芝が傷むから全く貸し出されない球蹴りスタジアムが泣くぞwww
326名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wLZqYYeP0
>>316
ほぼ使われてなくてもメンテナンスするのは当たり前だろ
野球憎しで頭おかしくなってないか？
ほぼ使われてなくてもメンテナンスするのは当たり前だろ
野球憎しで頭おかしくなってないか？
319名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VQsBiqdf0
>>316
自前スタジアムいくつあると思ってんだカス
自前スタジアムいくつあると思ってんだカス
317名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3O5N01Jw02023/06/30(金) 17:32:11.89
病院も病院で、赤字垂れ流してたら行政？自治体？から「おいコラ」て怒られるだろ
329名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wLZqYYeP0
>>317
まあ規模小さくされたりもするよね
まあ規模小さくされたりもするよね
331名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jKgEJNJs0
>>317
病院はしょうがないんだよ、診療報酬削られて
民間でさえかつかつのところがほとんど、それも民間は収益性を考えて受け入れるからな
赤字にならざるを得ないような症例は公立病院が引き受けるしかない
構造的に公立病院は赤字になるべくしてなってるの
病院はしょうがないんだよ、診療報酬削られて
民間でさえかつかつのところがほとんど、それも民間は収益性を考えて受け入れるからな
赤字にならざるを得ないような症例は公立病院が引き受けるしかない
構造的に公立病院は赤字になるべくしてなってるの
318名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q1++TU9p02023/06/30(金) 17:32:19.72
なんで金満大企業にたからずに貧乏自治体にたかるのかが全く分からん
大企業なら選手の給料をもっと上げることができるのに
大企業なら選手の給料をもっと上げることができるのに
330名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VGW/iA2K0
>>318
リーグやチェアマンよりもクラブオーナーの実権、影響力が大きくなる危険性を危惧しねるんじゃね？
リーグやチェアマンよりもクラブオーナーの実権、影響力が大きくなる危険性を危惧しねるんじゃね？
323名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IXKKvHiI0
>>318
金満大企業にとって旨味がないからに決まってるだろ
金満大企業にとって旨味がないからに決まってるだろ
320名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3TKPrk6j02023/06/30(金) 17:32:48.99
サッカーなんか生きるのに必要ないからね
321名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lqRO0NDk02023/06/30(金) 17:33:02.33
じゃあ、病院も消防署もなくてサッカー場だけある街を
作って自分で住んでみろやw
作って自分で住んでみろやw
322名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lqRO0NDk02023/06/30(金) 17:33:05.35
じゃあ、病院も消防署もなくてサッカー場だけある街を
作って自分で住んでみろやw
作って自分で住んでみろやw
324名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gXkaz66F02023/06/30(金) 17:33:38.90
地域の発展に寄与しない木っ端チームだからじゃないかな？
325名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3X6S6g7602023/06/30(金) 17:33:55.49
サカ豚やべえな
328名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YVnOC0rG02023/06/30(金) 17:34:44.87
この三人、そこらの連中が全く相手にならない三人なんだよなあ
347名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lsXtBh9A0
>>328
甲府も平塚もスタジアムに否定的だから「相手にされてない連中」なんじゃね？
甲府も平塚もスタジアムに否定的だから「相手にされてない連中」なんじゃね？
340名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xP97Jlx70
>>328
この言動みたら相手にされないの間違いじゃないかと思ってしまう
この言動みたら相手にされないの間違いじゃないかと思ってしまう
332名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gp4re+oj02023/06/30(金) 17:35:22.55
Jリーグの30年の歴史
失われた30年
失われた30年
リンクしている
334名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:B/JK83v/02023/06/30(金) 17:35:36.89
日本は圧倒的に中高年の数が多いからな
まあ現実的だよね
悪く言えば夢がない
まあ現実的だよね
悪く言えば夢がない
335名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:O8zIevSc02023/06/30(金) 17:35:50.84
税リーグクラブが使ってるワールドカップ開催スタジアムで唯一の黒字が
税リーグクラブで一番集客力のあるクラブのホームスタジアムで
不人気税リーグと違って人気のサッカーA代表の試合が一番多く開催されてる
埼玉スタジアム2002じゃなく野球兼用のサッポコドームだしねぇ
いかに税リーグのサカ豚専用スタジアムがゴミ以下の価値しかないのがよくわかる
税リーグクラブで一番集客力のあるクラブのホームスタジアムで
不人気税リーグと違って人気のサッカーA代表の試合が一番多く開催されてる
埼玉スタジアム2002じゃなく野球兼用のサッポコドームだしねぇ
いかに税リーグのサカ豚専用スタジアムがゴミ以下の価値しかないのがよくわかる
名称 所在地 収入 支出 収支
札幌ドーム 札幌市 37.2 32.3 4.9
ひとめぼれ 宮城 3.4 9.0 ▲5.6
カシマ 鹿嶋市 2.4 2.9 ▲0.5
埼玉スタ 埼玉市 5.9 8.8 ▲2.9
日産スタ 横浜市 2.3 7.5 ▲5.2
ビッグスタ 新潟市 1.2 3.1 ▲1.9
エコパスタ 袋井市 2.2 8.1 ▲5.9
ヤンマースタ大阪 4.0 6.0 ▲2.0
ノエビアスタ神戸市4.0 6.1 ▲2.1
大銀ドーム 大分市0.1 3.8 ▲3.7（億）
https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO47633860S9A720C1000000
五輪施設なぜ税金頼み サッカーW杯の教訓生きず ドーム社長 安田秀一 - 日本経済新聞東京オリパラ開催まで1年、ビッグイベントを迎える機運が高まってきました。都内ではメインスタジアムとなる新国立競技場など新たな競技施設が次々に登場しています。米スポーツブランド「アンダーアーマー」の日本総代理店、ドームの本社周辺でも同様だそうです。ただ、社長の安田秀一氏は、それらの施設を複雑な思いで見ています。施設整備が...www.nikkei.com
348名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DT1rQ2BB0
>>335
やめたれwwwwww
その札幌ドームも日ハム頼みだったってオチなんやでwwwwwww
やめたれwwwwww
その札幌ドームも日ハム頼みだったってオチなんやでwwwwwww
336名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jDchQQ+h02023/06/30(金) 17:36:00.36
公共施設と言うなら、一般にも普段解放すればいいだけ
でも、芝の管理とかあるからほぼ解放できないでしょ？
でも、芝の管理とかあるからほぼ解放できないでしょ？
他の施設と比べるのが間違え
337名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:26jeQVb202023/06/30(金) 17:36:18.49
老害焼き豚が多すぎる
野球はこの世から早く消滅しろよ
338名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:b+PpBLr802023/06/30(金) 17:36:24.56
例えるなら図書館かな
339名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8ahR9Azw02023/06/30(金) 17:36:26.60
相変わらず八百坂の自演ばっかだなw
将来の年金とか大丈夫なのかこいつ？
将来の年金とか大丈夫なのかこいつ？
341名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3JMjyduI02023/06/30(金) 17:37:06.99
やきうコンプレックス丸出しでだせぇw
Jリーグ開幕時より給料下がってるのは草
プロ野球と相当差ついたな
Jリーグ開幕時より給料下がってるのは草
プロ野球と相当差ついたな
342名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sgdm9Rq602023/06/30(金) 17:37:16.46
公立病院や消防署と同じだと思ってるなら救いようのないアホ
343名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A7jQMPw/02023/06/30(金) 17:37:30.13
＞野球場でペイしている施設はドーム球場以外は日本に1つもありません。
さすがに甲子園や神宮、マツダスタジアムはペイしてると思うけど…
346名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IXKKvHiI0
>>343
横浜スタジアムも内部留保溜めまくってるぞ
横浜スタジアムも内部留保溜めまくってるぞ
363名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OqwG5WoC0
>>343
税収に直接関係するドーム球場がない
じゃねえかな
言ってることは間違ってない！
税収に直接関係するドーム球場がない
じゃねえかな
言ってることは間違ってない！
345名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:djVt/nnR02023/06/30(金) 17:38:13.28
いわれてるけどスタジアムライセンス少しは下げようと思わんのかね
日本の大半の野球場はＪ３ライセンス基準すら届かないぞ
日本の大半の野球場はＪ３ライセンス基準すら届かないぞ
349名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WIrqQyoS02023/06/30(金) 17:39:03.07
百年構想を建前として市民クラブとか一般市民に総合スポーツクラブを提供するって言ってたうちはまだいい
しれっと百年構想を取り下げて芝の養生を葵の御紋に
球技場独占玉蹴りはブンカダーは通らんよ
しれっと百年構想を取り下げて芝の養生を葵の御紋に
球技場独占玉蹴りはブンカダーは通らんよ
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