653名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dGRkxFb202023/06/30(金) 19:03:54.25
剣道場や武道館はって記事に書いてあるけど
サイズは◯◯以上で床は◯◯でなければならない！という規定がないから地域に合ったものが作れる
サッカースタジアムはそうじゃないだろ
サイズは◯◯以上で床は◯◯でなければならない！という規定がないから地域に合ったものが作れる
サッカースタジアムはそうじゃないだろ
655名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6TF3eyqw02023/06/30(金) 19:05:14.30
せいぜい土地を安く売るか貸す程度
箱は自分達でやらないとな
知らないがじゃあ市が負担してスタジアム作りました
市って元取れてるの？
657名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1WfJU/ye02023/06/30(金) 19:05:39.17
自治体が欲しいなら自治体負担でいいし
自治体がいらないなら欲しい人が負担するのが当たり前
自治体がいらないなら欲しい人が負担するのが当たり前
658名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:y6ADvp/u02023/06/30(金) 19:05:51.01
言ってることは気違じみてるけどさすがにこんなソースでスレ立てすんのはどうなん
659名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+mh3B1Y802023/06/30(金) 19:05:52.52
馬鹿なのかな
660名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gSlGJ61T02023/06/30(金) 19:06:06.63
最近のサッカー界隈を取り巻く色んな記事でJリーガーは公務員だという事が良く分かったわ
自分らの利用料すらもペイ出来ないプロ集団とか存在価値無し
自分らの利用料すらもペイ出来ないプロ集団とか存在価値無し
662名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xP97Jlx702023/06/30(金) 19:06:50.67
この手のスレで根本的に野球場が無駄だとしてもたってだから代わりにサッカー場作りましょうとはならんのよ
野球が悪いって話をいくらしても意味がないのがわからんのがアホ
野球が悪いって話をいくらしても意味がないのがわからんのがアホ
677名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MokcoFkX0
>>662
まぁそのアホが居てくれないと伸びないんだけどねw
まぁそのアホが居てくれないと伸びないんだけどねw
663名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PMwUcnL902023/06/30(金) 19:06:52.83
確かに専用スタジアムわかる
80億屋根付き限定っていうのが異常なだけで
そこが色々ずれてる
80億屋根付き限定っていうのが異常なだけで
そこが色々ずれてる
664名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:F9CFtUmD02023/06/30(金) 19:07:01.17
広島のサッカースタジアムの候補地選定の時、
候補地の近隣住民が
騒音やゴミの懸念や、近場の公園が無くなるのは困る、
と不平言った時
候補地の近隣住民が
騒音やゴミの懸念や、近場の公園が無くなるのは困る、
と不平言った時
サンフレサポーター「自分達さえよければそれでいいのか！」
とか逆切れしてたのはワロタ？
おまいう。
666名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jcKyEIP602023/06/30(金) 19:07:16.62
なんでこんな厚顔無恥なこと抜かせるのかね？
667名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LkOiYhm402023/06/30(金) 19:07:43.44
すげーなw
上から下まで頭おかしいだろサッカー関係者
上から下まで頭おかしいだろサッカー関係者
668名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dOZ36jCB02023/06/30(金) 19:07:45.20
日本で集客力のあるイベントの代表なら
コミケとホビーショーだけど
専用の箱なんか無いのに国内外から客を集めてるで
専用の設備が必要な代表格なら
フィギュア等のスケートリンクがあるけど
あれも集客力はあるけどイベントは臨時の特設リンクだろ
なんでサッカーは専用スタジアムをおねだりするばかりで自力でどうにかせんの？
コミケとホビーショーだけど
専用の箱なんか無いのに国内外から客を集めてるで
専用の設備が必要な代表格なら
フィギュア等のスケートリンクがあるけど
あれも集客力はあるけどイベントは臨時の特設リンクだろ
なんでサッカーは専用スタジアムをおねだりするばかりで自力でどうにかせんの？
670名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:x6PkxZZc02023/06/30(金) 19:08:25.67
河川敷のサッカー場で十分だと思う
わりとまじで
わりとまじで
678名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ylgRoJev0
>>670
１等地でＪリーグ基準のスタジアムとかじゃなきゃ対して金かからないし文句ねえのにな
１等地でＪリーグ基準のスタジアムとかじゃなきゃ対して金かからないし文句ねえのにな
671名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ls+4BWsk02023/06/30(金) 19:08:25.91
ドイツなどヨーロッパはサッカー文化が根付いてるけど日本はまだまだかな
W杯の時はすごく盛り上がるけど
W杯の時はすごく盛り上がるけど
674名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AN+xCqAY02023/06/30(金) 19:09:07.59
5chのサカ豚みたいなことリアルで言うんだなマジで
そらリアルで税リーグだって言われるわ
675名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QK+aKM2I02023/06/30(金) 19:09:08.99
国技みたいなドイツといっしょにするなよｗ
676名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zeyrVW9902023/06/30(金) 19:09:10.30
もうさ、土のグラウンドでよくない？
サッカーも野球もテニスも、何でも出来るじゃん？
サッカーも野球もテニスも、何でも出来るじゃん？
680名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:H5m+TbQP02023/06/30(金) 19:10:14.50
豚が集まる場所だからね
682名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:djVt/nnR02023/06/30(金) 19:10:38.05
バカが画像貼ってるいわきのスタジアムも、サッカースタジアムも併設されていて
いわきＦＣが使ってるけど 例外的Ｊ２ライセンス貰えて、実際はこのレベルすらＪ２はダメなんよな
こっちもいわきＦＣがＪのライセンスほしさにスタジアム作れて税金にたかろうとして揉め事おきてるんよな
いわきＦＣが使ってるけど 例外的Ｊ２ライセンス貰えて、実際はこのレベルすらＪ２はダメなんよな
こっちもいわきＦＣがＪのライセンスほしさにスタジアム作れて税金にたかろうとして揉め事おきてるんよな
807名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cSov2paj0
>>682
いわきFCの場合はサカ豚からも冷ややかな目で見られているんだよな
昔はこんなこと言ってたから
「スタジアム建築に税金を頼るのは格好悪い」ドームCEO安田秀一が語る経済合理的なスポーツとは
https://real-sports.jp/page/articles/387012433144710166
「スタジアム建築に税金を頼るのは格好悪い」ドームCEO安田秀一が語る経済合理的なスポーツとは東京五輪の延期が決定し、延期という事実以上に、そこに至るまでの経緯に失望したと語る安田秀一氏。スポーツ庁の「日本版NCAA創設に向けた学産官連携協議会」委員にも名を連ねた彼の日本スポーツ改革案の数々には学ぶべきヒントが溢 real-sports.jp
683名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FcPC6rbO02023/06/30(金) 19:10:53.00
今の時代プロしか使えない他のイベントもできないなんて無駄の極みなのよ
690名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:l9B8YQhx0
>>683
自前の球場ならわかるし
仮に公共物でも利益出して行政に金銭還元してるならまだわかるが
自前の球場ならわかるし
仮に公共物でも利益出して行政に金銭還元してるならまだわかるが
Jクラブでそんなクラブあるのかって
行政に金銭還元とかしたら赤字拡大だろ
684名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IlGLpqRA02023/06/30(金) 19:11:20.51
頭が悪いのか、わかってて言ってるのか。
サッカー場なくたって困らないけど、病院や
消防署やないと困るんだよｗ
サッカー場なくたって困らないけど、病院や
消防署やないと困るんだよｗ
685名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bWYN/isk02023/06/30(金) 19:11:22.72
サッカーの方は「スタジアムを自分で保有したい！」ってクラブがひとつも無いのが全てだと思うわ
ガンバもスタジアム建てたらそっこー自治体に寄付したからな
日本では絶対に黒字にならないんだろな残念ながら
ガンバもスタジアム建てたらそっこー自治体に寄付したからな
日本では絶対に黒字にならないんだろな残念ながら
687名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MokcoFkX02023/06/30(金) 19:11:40.58
ブンデスは凄い。平均が阪神やもんな
試合数は圧倒的に阪神やけど、、、w
つまり
692名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QK+aKM2I02023/06/30(金) 19:15:12.28
そっちが勝手に地域密着言ってるだけでこっちは全く親近感ないんだが
694名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6TF3eyqw02023/06/30(金) 19:16:43.07
スタジアムはさもう狭くてもサッカー出来るスペースがあればいいじゃん
観客は要らない 配信だけでやりゃいい
日本人が観るヨーロッパの試合なんて殆どがそうなんだから
695名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:djVt/nnR02023/06/30(金) 19:17:02.49
https://www.minyu-net.com/news/iwakigf-map.php
天然芝です、照明スタンドあります、ビジョンまであります
でもＪ２ライセンスすらおりません(将来改修するという特例措置でＪ２ライセンスはおりてる
このレベルがアウトなのが税金たかりのＪリーグや
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698名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:w9pL3uOO02023/06/30(金) 19:18:13.69
良いこと思いついた
観客席を病院にすれば様々な問題が解決できる
観客席を病院にすれば様々な問題が解決できる
699名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4W1CuPqy02023/06/30(金) 19:18:29.58
要不要で考えれば自ずと答えは出てくる
維持管理運営費は相当なモノになる
税収が増えるならいいが展望やいかに
維持管理運営費は相当なモノになる
税収が増えるならいいが展望やいかに
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