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Jクラブ元社長ら鼎談「サッカー場建設となると反対が多い」「公立の病院をや消防署を建てるときに『ペイしますか』とは言わない…」

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852名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yFkx9JbB02023/06/30(金) 19:58:38.66
そうなんだよな
各節ホームゲームが常に満員になっていてチケット争奪戦になってると言う状況ならスタジアムの拡充や新設は自然と声が上がってくるんだからまずは今ある物を一年埋める事から始めようよ
856名無しさん@恐縮ですID:b1TxIuIr02023/06/30(金) 20:00:04.47
まさに税リーグ脳そのものじゃん
球蹴りと医療を同一視とかww
860名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OqwG5WoC0
>>856
まあ地方公共団体に作ってくれ兼ねだしてくれと言ってるけど
最近は反対運動が起こるって話しだし
まんまっちゃあまんまだな
858名無しさん@恐縮ですID:INRC9Oul02023/06/30(金) 20:04:27.42
東京ならどこでもできるのに
なんで夕張ではできないんだ?!
それはサッカーが文化として根付いてないからだ!

くらいのことを言ってるよな
アホか

859名無しさん@恐縮ですID:J0ojQJZa02023/06/30(金) 20:04:34.59
そらぁそうだろ
病院や消防はお世話になる可能性がある
861名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lyI4G8UO02023/06/30(金) 20:05:14.73
思ったんだけど日本サッカーのレベル向上のためにJリーグがあるんだよね?
でもJリーグない方がいいような気がするんだよね。
釜本とか奥寺とかJリーグ創設前の方が世界的なプレイヤーいたじゃん。
日本プロ野球もないほうが日本人メジャーリーガー増えたかもしれないけど日本プロ野球は国民的娯楽だからなくせないんだよな。
サカ豚もちょうど世界世界わめいてることだしさ。
この際Jリーグ撤廃したほうがいいんじゃない?
Jリーグを撤廃して日本サッカーは世界に門戸を広げよう。
862名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FUED8vjg02023/06/30(金) 20:05:48.00
Jリーグクラブはどの県にもあったりするプレミア度が極めて低いものだからな
県庁みたいなもんか 税金で維持してるところも同じ
865名無しさん@恐縮ですID:F1FB5t9F02023/06/30(金) 20:06:21.16
軽井沢や常呂にある最大規模でも一度に48人しか試合できないカーリング場が基本的にペイを前提にしてないな
874名無しさん@恐縮ですID:g3nMnOgk0
>>865
あれはオリンピックもあったし一般人も使える施設だからな
866名無しさん@恐縮ですID:w7ozjCxq02023/06/30(金) 20:06:21.96
一つ隣の県に行けばあるんだしいらんくね?
868名無しさん@恐縮ですID:i2tOUFw/02023/06/30(金) 20:06:26.25
i.imgur.com/cCColTR.jpg

※市立サッカースタジアムです

871名無しさん@恐縮ですID:INRC9Oul0
>>868
これがおかしいと思わん税リーグは無くていいや
873名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yFkx9JbB0
>>871
そんな事を言ったら現在の広島市民球場=MAZDA ZOOMZOOMスタジアムは?と思ったらオフシーズンは普通に市民利用させてるのかよ
881名無しさん@恐縮ですID:i2tOUFw/0
946名無しさん@恐縮ですID:F9CFtUmD0
>>873
オフはもちろん、
シーズン中ですら少年野球大会やってるんけと

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939名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ya+4IEe/0
>>873
高校野球も前は使われてたけどな
今年も使われてんのかな?
991名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4v4xP+Ks0
>>873
高校野球、少年野球、草野球
なんでもやってるぞ。
芝の養生の1日2試合5時間まで

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なお、開業7年一度も開場なし

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994名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hIwLhO+A0
>>991
マジでサッカースタジアムってゴミやん
869名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZFD7H36P02023/06/30(金) 20:07:46.98
サッカースタジアムは公共施設
みたいな欺瞞はもう通用しなくなってきてる
870名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yFkx9JbB02023/06/30(金) 20:08:56.15
公共の財産ってなら年間50万動員ぐらいが最低限のノルマ?
876名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mEg1Y3up02023/06/30(金) 20:13:06.29
天然芝からハイブリッドか人工芝
屋根は不要
これだけでサッカー場建設なんて文句言われないわ
877名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LgI9e0JL02023/06/30(金) 20:13:15.56
そんなに欲しいなら日ハムみたいに自分で建てればいいじゃん
世界的メジャースポーツのサッカーなら余裕でしょ?
878名無しさん@恐縮ですID:F1FB5t9F02023/06/30(金) 20:13:56.97
100センチ超えた大雪の時にスタジアムの除雪を優先できないって市の方針でホーム開幕が大幅に遅れたよね
秋春制になったらどうするんだろう?
883名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ji4TZBf402023/06/30(金) 20:15:10.47
関西圏のクラブはサッカー専用ばっかりだし、金沢広島も新しく出来るしで、進んでるところは結構進んでるけどな。
野球場は市民が、高校野球が使うからーって言うけど、サッカーだって高校サッカーなりユースが週末は使うから大して変わらんやろ。
888名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZMbzoDbM0
>>883
使わせないから問題になってんだろ
937名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ji4TZBf40
>>888
>>893
自分たちで持ってるところは知らんけど、地元の日本平はよく使ってるけど
964名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S46FVy7G0
>>937
それ使ってると言ってもアマチュアサッカーの試合じゃなくて、
大して芝に負担かからない軽い運動教室とか、せいぜいスタジアムキャンプだよね。
ユースチームは試合で使ってても身内だしな。
974名無しさん@恐縮ですID:A1KSga1u0
>>937
日本平はJリーグ開幕時からあったし、確かメインに小さな屋根が付いてるだけだから、日照も風通しも良くて芝の養生がしやすいんじゃないかな。
こういうスタジアムは割と稼働しても芝が痛みにくいはず。

Jリーグが後から設けたスタジアム基準が、芝の管理をしづらくして稼働率を下げてると思われる。

893名無しさん@恐縮ですID:i2tOUFw/0
>>883
アマチュアに使わせてる例をどうぞ
937名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ji4TZBf40
>>888
>>893
自分たちで持ってるところは知らんけど、地元の日本平はよく使ってるけど
964名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S46FVy7G0
>>937
それ使ってると言ってもアマチュアサッカーの試合じゃなくて、
大して芝に負担かからない軽い運動教室とか、せいぜいスタジアムキャンプだよね。
ユースチームは試合で使ってても身内だしな。
974名無しさん@恐縮ですID:A1KSga1u0
>>937
日本平はJリーグ開幕時からあったし、確かメインに小さな屋根が付いてるだけだから、日照も風通しも良くて芝の養生がしやすいんじゃないかな。
こういうスタジアムは割と稼働しても芝が痛みにくいはず。

Jリーグが後から設けたスタジアム基準が、芝の管理をしづらくして稼働率を下げてると思われる。

887名無しさん@恐縮ですID:i2tOUFw/02023/06/30(金) 20:16:47.54
サンガスタジアムの7月日程
https://sangastadium-by-kyocera.jp/event-calendar?yr=2023&month=7&dy=&cid=my-calendar
7月16日(日)2023明治安田生命J1リーグ第21節 京都サンガF.C.vs.名古屋グランパス

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建設費   1   5   0   億

890名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MokcoFkX0
>>887
見直そうw
916名無しさん@恐縮ですID:INRC9Oul0
>>887
まあこれだけ金をかけてるんだし
3億くらいは建設費の分で稼げているゆでしょ?
891名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mldpE7H902023/06/30(金) 20:17:55.41
役人は反対派の知事の意向どおりの答弁書を作るだけだから
賛成派の知事になればまたその知事の意向どおりの答弁書を作るだけ
892名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ur5WJzen02023/06/30(金) 20:18:03.70
税リーグ怒涛の税金タカリムーブwww
プロ野球は自分で建てて自分で維持してしっかり稼いで
最近できたBリーグも自分で建てて自分で維持するのに

30年自治体の税金にタカる技術だけ磨きつつけた税リーグwww
自立もできない自称プロサッカーリーグはもう無理w

895名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hiKMQiFk02023/06/30(金) 20:19:06.47
このレベルだと会話なりたたねーな
きちいな
897名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7kyulkGs02023/06/30(金) 20:19:31.49
治安悪くなりそうで嫌だ
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