500名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TqVc48kc02023/06/30(金) 18:27:46.68
地元にJ2の中位クラブあるんだけど
そこのスタジアムが総合運動公園の中にあって
試合がある日は駐車場使えなかったりで不便なんだよね
そこのスタジアムが総合運動公園の中にあって
試合がある日は駐車場使えなかったりで不便なんだよね
587名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5YtkSzee0
>>500
山形かよ
山形かよ
594名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TqVc48kc0
>>587
残念、南東北のギョウザ町でした
残念、南東北のギョウザ町でした
502名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wUrGCA1n02023/06/30(金) 18:28:03.66
市民が全く使えない
公共のスタジアム
公共のスタジアム
こんなもんに税金だすかアホ
503名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3rT/zjSd02023/06/30(金) 18:28:17.71
今やサッカーの競技者数は非常に多い
野球と同等以上に専用があってしかるべし
野球と同等以上に専用があってしかるべし
551名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A1KSga1u0
>>503
料金の高いメインスタンドのみ屋根ありぐらいならいいと思うけど、それ以外の3方には屋根いらんね。
1辺に屋根つけるだけで十億円単位で建設費上がるし。
料金の高いメインスタンドのみ屋根ありぐらいならいいと思うけど、それ以外の3方には屋根いらんね。
1辺に屋根つけるだけで十億円単位で建設費上がるし。
それとチケットの安いゴール裏は立ち見でいいと思う。
今のスタジアムは声のデカいゴール裏の連中の意見聞き過ぎで、高い席と安い席の差が大してない。だから高い席が売れなくなるんだよ。
ゴール裏の連中は近くから応援したいから専スタ絶対主義なんだから、その願いだけ叶えてやればいい。
日立台だって大宮だって聖地として喜ばれてるし、文句ないだろ。
504名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:opSLx7zz02023/06/30(金) 18:28:22.96
Jリーグがここまで補助金チューチューの乞食リーグになってるのは、全国一律に課しているスタジアム要件なんだよ。
あれのせいで、どんな地方のクラブでも、J2,J1目指すとスタジアムの建設費が１００億２００億となっていって、毎年の維持費すらもクラブが払えない、なんていう事態になっている。
仮にも「プロクラブ」が、独占的に利用するスタジアムの年間の維持費すらも補助金に寄生するなんて、本当に狂ってんだよ。よく恥ずかしくも無く球蹴れるもんだな。
あれのせいで、どんな地方のクラブでも、J2,J1目指すとスタジアムの建設費が１００億２００億となっていって、毎年の維持費すらもクラブが払えない、なんていう事態になっている。
仮にも「プロクラブ」が、独占的に利用するスタジアムの年間の維持費すらも補助金に寄生するなんて、本当に狂ってんだよ。よく恥ずかしくも無く球蹴れるもんだな。
508名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HJgqoVaI02023/06/30(金) 18:28:46.30
人工芝認めろよ
アリーナでフットサルやっとけ
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510名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MokcoFkX02023/06/30(金) 18:29:11.95
こんなん流石に言ってないやろ？w
必須の施設やんかw
511名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TzPKtOxn02023/06/30(金) 18:29:16.94
田舎だと赤字だが都会だと土地がない
517名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2Y+XEL0L02023/06/30(金) 18:30:07.97
スタジアムに病院併設しろよ
それで解決だろ
それで解決だろ
522名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MokcoFkX0
>>517
精神病院の中庭でやってろw
精神病院の中庭でやってろw
570名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:x5/9SL5y0
>>517
エスコンがメディカルモール併設するらしい
自前で金が出せるとこは違うわ
エスコンがメディカルモール併設するらしい
自前で金が出せるとこは違うわ
518名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:r54b8piX02023/06/30(金) 18:30:42.29
スタジアムと病院消防署同じにすんなよ
519名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:heDbEPn302023/06/30(金) 18:31:17.58
娯楽施設と暮らしに必要な公共施設を同じにすんなよ
サッカー場なくても生活に困らん
サッカー場なくても生活に困らん
520名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bNhUSRUW02023/06/30(金) 18:31:19.46
見たら福島県にも3万人の球場が二つもあったわw
531名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:djVt/nnR0
>>520
お前はええかげんにそれは客席じゃなく芝生や土手スタンドなの理解せえや
そんなものＪ３すらライセンスおりんぞ、 お前が言うことが正しいなら
Ｊリーグもその土手や芝生スタンドでＯＫってなるんやで
お前はええかげんにそれは客席じゃなく芝生や土手スタンドなの理解せえや
そんなものＪ３すらライセンスおりんぞ、 お前が言うことが正しいなら
Ｊリーグもその土手や芝生スタンドでＯＫってなるんやで
539名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bNhUSRUW0
>>531
しっかり座席あるんだが
しっかり座席あるんだが
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%84%E3%82%8F%E3%81%8D%E3%82%B0%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A2%E3%83%A0#/media/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%3AIwaki_Green_Stadium_2.jpg
571名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xogqXkzy0
>>539
内野：14,240人、外野：15,760人て書いてあるけど外野に座席ないやん
内野：14,240人、外野：15,760人て書いてあるけど外野に座席ないやん
578名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bb1ZvMbE0
>>571
座らずに立って詰めれば外野だけで３万人くらい入りそうだなｗ
座らずに立って詰めれば外野だけで３万人くらい入りそうだなｗ
575名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OqwG5WoC0
>>539
いわき
のあたりからも観戦できそうだな
いわき
のあたりからも観戦できそうだな
543名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:djVt/nnR0
>>539
しっかり外野土手で草
しっかり外野土手で草
560名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bNhUSRUW0
>>543
建設費60億やって
建設費60億やって
585名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FPpck6Om0
>>560
客席に屋根つけたり、全部背もたれ付きの分割された座席にしたらここからさらに100億円上乗せされるんだろうな。
でクラブはJ3とw
客席に屋根つけたり、全部背もたれ付きの分割された座席にしたらここからさらに100億円上乗せされるんだろうな。
でクラブはJ3とw
521名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8y9mS7NY02023/06/30(金) 18:31:27.66
客が1万も入らんレベルで選手にいくら払ってんだよ？
銀行ってNHKの番組観ろよ。
お前ら自殺してるわ。
銀行ってNHKの番組観ろよ。
お前ら自殺してるわ。
525名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3rT/zjSd02023/06/30(金) 18:32:04.03
日本はサッカーの競技者数に見合うスタジアムの数がない
バブル期までの談合箱もの行政が終わってから急激に増えて定着したもんだから歪みがあるんだよな
バブル期までの談合箱もの行政が終わってから急激に増えて定着したもんだから歪みがあるんだよな
526名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JKpqMVst02023/06/30(金) 18:32:05.70
スタンドの下にパチンコ屋併設すればいいだけ
エスコンもパチンコ屋の看板目立つ所にあるし
エスコンもパチンコ屋の看板目立つ所にあるし
527名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bNhUSRUW02023/06/30(金) 18:32:21.12
木村正明(ファジアーノ岡山オーナー)「私が調べたときに日本に野球場は610あって、このとき反対運動は起こってないんですね。サッカー場(専用スタジアム)は当時十幾つか。そこから増えていますが、例えば剣道場や武道館の建て替えなどはすんなりいっています。サッカー場となるとこれが途端に反対運動が起こりやすい。どうしても”地域が元気になる”という観点でいかないと…野球場でペイしている施設はドーム球場以外は日本に1つもありません。
530名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bNhUSRUW0
>>527
もう一度貼っておいたわw
もう一度貼っておいたわw
529名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5nTjsX8502023/06/30(金) 18:32:39.88
野球やればええやん
誰もサッカーなんて見たくもないわけだし
じぇいりーがーですらじぇいりーぐを出る喜びなんて言ってるんだから
サッカーは海外に任せればよろし
誰もサッカーなんて見たくもないわけだし
じぇいりーがーですらじぇいりーぐを出る喜びなんて言ってるんだから
サッカーは海外に任せればよろし
532名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QxhzxHgc02023/06/30(金) 18:32:41.12
Jリーグ開幕から30年キャプテン翼ブームから40年経っとるのに
日本じゃ一向にアンチサッカーは根強いな
日本じゃ一向にアンチサッカーは根強いな
533名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3rT/zjSd02023/06/30(金) 18:32:53.43
野球人口なんて少ないんだから潰してサッカー専用にするべきだな
548名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:heDbEPn30
>>533
地域の住民「野球は試合数多いし地元も潤う、サッカーって週一くらいしかやんないだろ？それじゃ誰も喜ばん」
地域の住民「野球は試合数多いし地元も潤う、サッカーって週一くらいしかやんないだろ？それじゃ誰も喜ばん」
566名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3rT/zjSd0
>>548
なんでだよ
そこら中にある野球場で何が潤ってんだよ
なんでだよ
そこら中にある野球場で何が潤ってんだよ
600名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:prgheqAz0
>>566
そこらじゅうにプロが興行できるような球場なんてないしプロが興行出来ないようなスタジアムならそこらじゅうにあるだろ
そこらじゅうにプロが興行できるような球場なんてないしプロが興行出来ないようなスタジアムならそこらじゅうにあるだろ
608名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZMbzoDbM0
>>600
それどころかプロ野球はJリーグが鼻で笑うような球場でも試合してるんだよなぁ、、、
年1～3試合とはいえさ
それどころかプロ野球はJリーグが鼻で笑うような球場でも試合してるんだよなぁ、、、
年1～3試合とはいえさ
534名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DgMGygqM02023/06/30(金) 18:33:13.27
馬鹿かサカ豚は
病院や消防なんて絶対に必要だけどサッカーチームなんてなくても地元民は何にも困らないんだよwwwwww
ったくどうしようもねーなサカ豚は
病院や消防なんて絶対に必要だけどサッカーチームなんてなくても地元民は何にも困らないんだよwwwwww
ったくどうしようもねーなサカ豚は
536名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Y0WWme+302023/06/30(金) 18:33:24.61
サッカーファンでもさすがにこの発言はヒクwww
541名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TqVc48kc02023/06/30(金) 18:34:43.10
ID:bNhUSRUW0は
野球だって無駄遣いしてるんだからサッカーも無駄遣いさせてくれって
税金なんだと思ってるんだ？
野球だって無駄遣いしてるんだからサッカーも無駄遣いさせてくれって
税金なんだと思ってるんだ？
死に金にしかならないの見えてるんだからそりゃ反対運動も起きるだろうよ
546名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MC2cdfX/02023/06/30(金) 18:35:16.70
4万以上の専用スタジアム30ほど、3万以上の専用スタジアム100ほどは作ってほしい
日本がドイツやイングランドみたいなサッカーの国になっていくには舞台も増やして
そして一般人がスタジアムに通ったり応援する習慣をまず身に付けることから
日本がドイツやイングランドみたいなサッカーの国になっていくには舞台も増やして
そして一般人がスタジアムに通ったり応援する習慣をまず身に付けることから
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