最近は移民というか日本に住む外国人も増えてると思うが人口減の分そういう人等をもっと増やして
それに伴い文化や価値観も変わっていくのならサッカーの国に近づくのかなと
低レベル国内リーグの専用スタジアムに税金投入とかそら反対されるに決まってる
税リーグクラブで一番集客力のあるクラブのホームスタジアムで
不人気税リーグと違って人気のサッカーA代表の試合が一番多く開催されてる
埼玉スタジアム2002じゃなく野球兼用のサッポコドームだしねぇ
いかに税リーグのサカ豚専用スタジアムがゴミ以下の価値しかないのがよくわかる
名称 所在地 収入 支出 収支
札幌ドーム 札幌市 37.2 32.3 4.9
ひとめぼれ 宮城 3.4 9.0 ▲5.6
カシマ 鹿嶋市 2.4 2.9 ▲0.5
埼玉スタ 埼玉市 5.9 8.8 ▲2.9
日産スタ 横浜市 2.3 7.5 ▲5.2
ビッグスタ 新潟市 1.2 3.1 ▲1.9
エコパスタ 袋井市 2.2 8.1 ▲5.9
ヤンマースタ大阪 4.0 6.0 ▲2.0
ノエビアスタ神戸市4.0 6.1 ▲2.1
大銀ドーム 大分市0.1 3.8 ▲3.7（億）
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いや本当に厄介払いした方が良い
縁切って二度とサッカーに関わらない
一円の税金も使わないと決議すべき
自治体は土地と建設費用出して住民サービスの一環として捉える
チームは運営費や人件費はスポンサー収入や入場料に放映権で潤う
うん、まずは街の人がクラブチームを応援したいって環境を作ることから始めよう
試合以外で街であったら声かけるなとか田舎で何もないとかこう言うの無くす事からまずは始めよう
黒字にしろってのは無理がある
まぁ贅沢言うなよって話だわなw
まず動員が舐めてるしw
ほんと頭の中おかしくなってんじゃない？
東京都を例に上げてもプロの興行に耐えられる自治体運営の野球場なんて無いだろ
県内の既存施設ではキャパ不足が露呈してしまった。けど自治体が動かない。
あと清水の新スタジアムの件についてはどうなのだろうけ？
キャパの問題じゃないぞ
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来月から高校野球の県大会で使われるのは決まってます
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競技にかかわらず
高校生利用して商売するのはどうかと思ってる
聖地国立！聖地国立！って正月に騒いでるコンテンツなーんだ
跡地にサッカー専用スタジアムを！って意見が出ると
国の土地で公園扱い？だとかで作れないとかいう(結果嘘)で議論にされなかった
たしかこんな感じ
>>844 >>853
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「競技にかかわらず」って書いてるだろw
競技に関わらず高校生で商売したら何があかんの？！w
高校野球叩きたいだけでしょサカ豚
ちなみにサッカーは高校生に企業広告付けたユニ着させて試合させてますw
さすがに高体連傘下の大会じゃやらんけど
マジ？
はい
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わざわざ前置きしたのにw
サッカーを憎む人生おつ
競技に関わらず高校生で商売したら何があかんの？！w
高校野球叩きたいだけでしょサカ豚
具体的には、3万人規模のスタジアム[補足 11]を旧市民球場跡地に建設しようとすると、周辺の高さ制限の関係から地盤の掘り込みが必要になり、結果的に旧市民球場跡地では約260億円、広島みなと公園では約180億円の建設費用となり、広島みなと公園に作った方がコスト的に優位である、とするものであった。
それはもうどこかに建設するってなってからの話ね
サッカースタジアム検討協議会での発言です
だから、もうどこかに造るってなってるから動いてるんだよ
妄想を根拠に語られましても
あなたが2016年以降の情報しか知らないってだけです
だから2016年以前って言ってるでしょ
その中でサッカー関係者としては念願であり、野球ファン含めたそのほかの市民には「戦後の広島復興の象徴としての市民球場」を保存・活用できる、財界や地元商店街もある程度の集客が見込めるとして、提案に挙がったのがサッカースタジアムにすることだった。一方でこの地は世界遺産である原爆ドームに近接しており、新たに大型施設を建設することにより危機遺産に登録されるのではないかと一部で懸念されていた。
2006年（平成18年）4月、原爆ドーム（高さ約25m）からわずか200m先に高さ45mのマンション建設が発覚、これに建設反対運動が活発化したことにより、周辺の景観保全への意識が高まることとなった[28]。結果、同年5月21日広島市民球場跡地利用検討会議第3回にて、スタジアム案がすべて「閉鎖された空間が新たに出現し、大規模施設によって広島平和記念公園と広島市中央公園が分断される計画であるため望ましくない」と評価され、没案となった[29]。
中央公園と繋がる？場所が全然違うぞ、難癖だろそれ
跡地スタジアム案にはスタンドに穴を空けて景観を良くする設計もあったのに
あの子窓のお笑いネタは置いといてもこれだし
県・市・商議所は2016年3月29日、「この案（サンフレ案）はこれまで作業部会が検討している内容とは収容人数等の前提が異なり、また、整備費の起訴となる仕様の内容等が示されていない」「（作業部会がサンフレッチェ広島へ）依頼した確認事項へのご回答をいただいていないなど、現状では確認作業、意見交換ができていない」とサンフレッチェの対応を批判した上で、年度内にも開催するとしていた県・市・商議所による結論を出すための三者トップ会談を延期し、結論の判断を先送りすることを発表した[46][51][52]。サンフレ側は事態の打開に向け、県・市・商議所にサンフレを加えた4者での公開トップ会談を開催して大まかな方向性を定めるべきだとしており、トップ会談の必要性については4者で認識が一致しているが、県・市・商議所はトップ会談の前に事務レベルでの意見のすりあわせが必要だとして、サンフレと三者の考え方の隔たりがなかなか埋まらなかった[46]。
要するに跡地に作らせたくなかっただけね
脳みそいかれすぎてて草
流石にJリーグ関係者はこのレベルの社会不適合者じゃないと信じたい
明治トヨタ帝人富士通スポンサー付けて商売してる高校サッカーの悪口やめろ
跡地にサッカー専用スタジアムを！って意見が出ると
国の土地で公園扱い？だとかで作れないとかいう(結果嘘)で議論にされなかった
たしかこんな感じ
>>844 >>853
サッカーが憎いのがよくわかるwwwww
「競技にかかわらず」って書いてるだろw
競技に関わらず高校生で商売したら何があかんの？！w
高校野球叩きたいだけでしょサカ豚
ちなみにサッカーは高校生に企業広告付けたユニ着させて試合させてますw
さすがに高体連傘下の大会じゃやらんけど
マジ？
はい
https://activel.jp/football/F0zmN
わざわざ前置きしたのにw
サッカーを憎む人生おつ
競技に関わらず高校生で商売したら何があかんの？！w
高校野球叩きたいだけでしょサカ豚
具体的には、3万人規模のスタジアム[補足 11]を旧市民球場跡地に建設しようとすると、周辺の高さ制限の関係から地盤の掘り込みが必要になり、結果的に旧市民球場跡地では約260億円、広島みなと公園では約180億円の建設費用となり、広島みなと公園に作った方がコスト的に優位である、とするものであった。
それはもうどこかに建設するってなってからの話ね
サッカースタジアム検討協議会での発言です
だから、もうどこかに造るってなってるから動いてるんだよ
妄想を根拠に語られましても
あなたが2016年以降の情報しか知らないってだけです
だから2016年以前って言ってるでしょ
その中でサッカー関係者としては念願であり、野球ファン含めたそのほかの市民には「戦後の広島復興の象徴としての市民球場」を保存・活用できる、財界や地元商店街もある程度の集客が見込めるとして、提案に挙がったのがサッカースタジアムにすることだった。一方でこの地は世界遺産である原爆ドームに近接しており、新たに大型施設を建設することにより危機遺産に登録されるのではないかと一部で懸念されていた。
2006年（平成18年）4月、原爆ドーム（高さ約25m）からわずか200m先に高さ45mのマンション建設が発覚、これに建設反対運動が活発化したことにより、周辺の景観保全への意識が高まることとなった[28]。結果、同年5月21日広島市民球場跡地利用検討会議第3回にて、スタジアム案がすべて「閉鎖された空間が新たに出現し、大規模施設によって広島平和記念公園と広島市中央公園が分断される計画であるため望ましくない」と評価され、没案となった[29]。
中央公園と繋がる？場所が全然違うぞ、難癖だろそれ
跡地スタジアム案にはスタンドに穴を空けて景観を良くする設計もあったのに
あの子窓のお笑いネタは置いといてもこれだし
県・市・商議所は2016年3月29日、「この案（サンフレ案）はこれまで作業部会が検討している内容とは収容人数等の前提が異なり、また、整備費の起訴となる仕様の内容等が示されていない」「（作業部会がサンフレッチェ広島へ）依頼した確認事項へのご回答をいただいていないなど、現状では確認作業、意見交換ができていない」とサンフレッチェの対応を批判した上で、年度内にも開催するとしていた県・市・商議所による結論を出すための三者トップ会談を延期し、結論の判断を先送りすることを発表した[46][51][52]。サンフレ側は事態の打開に向け、県・市・商議所にサンフレを加えた4者での公開トップ会談を開催して大まかな方向性を定めるべきだとしており、トップ会談の必要性については4者で認識が一致しているが、県・市・商議所はトップ会談の前に事務レベルでの意見のすりあわせが必要だとして、サンフレと三者の考え方の隔たりがなかなか埋まらなかった[46]。
要するに跡地に作らせたくなかっただけね
脳みそいかれすぎてて草
流石にJリーグ関係者はこのレベルの社会不適合者じゃないと信じたい
病院、消防
無くても別にいいもの
税リーグ
矜持とか文化とか言って税金で作って維持することを支持してくれってそりゃ反対するよ
で示してくれよw
民意を問いましょうよ？w
ヤクザでも多数決するやろw
跡目争いw
収益性と公共性を考えたら人工芝にせんとペイ不可能じゃね？
だってハイブリッド芝って天然芝定着のためのサポートでしかないもん
サッカースタジアムは違うでしょ。公営施設を借りてるのでなければ。
サッカースタジアム作ってもチンピラが集まってくるんだぞ。
それと病院や消防署の貢献度がどこから見て同列になるんだよ
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日本政府「ついに九州の生活インフラ崩壊が始まりました。ちなみに日本全土でインフラ整備不可になるのは2045年予定で、あと22年後です」 [161885161]
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学校の外壁や橋の金属片落下 公共施設の老朽化 追いつかぬ修繕
2023/6/28 06:15
北九州市内の公共施設で、経年劣化による外壁の落下が相次いでいる。
高度成長期に集中的に作られた公共施設やインフラが一斉に老朽化し、更新時期を迎えているためで、市は修繕計画で対応しているものの追いついていないのが現状だ。
続きはwebで
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