302名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb702023/06/26(月) 21:35:40.99
中盤のパサータイプの選手はそこまでスプリントしないから年齢いってても大丈夫なのよ
だからジダンでも余裕
だからジダンでも余裕
306名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m02023/06/26(月) 21:37:09.19
ダボダボはためかせてたロナウジーニョはめっちゃかっこよかった
312名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZjKSzL4T02023/06/26(月) 21:37:49.81
今のサッカーって得点するのムリ過ぎる
もうとっくに限界にきてる
もうとっくに限界にきてる
313名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vJedDzgO02023/06/26(月) 21:37:53.96
でも2006のフランス代表をジダン1人で準優勝まで導いたのは凄かった
ロナウジーニョ、カカ、アドリアーノ、ロナウドが4人がかりでも倒せなかった
ロナウジーニョ、カカ、アドリアーノ、ロナウドが4人がかりでも倒せなかった
316名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GwF5NoC60
>>313
なぁに占星術のお陰だ
なぁに占星術のお陰だ
621名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tfAjkdzb0
>>313
ベスト16でスペイン（ラウル・カシージャス）
準々決勝でブラジル（ロナウド ・ロベカル）
準決勝でポルトガル（フィーゴ）
と、レアルのチームメイトを順番に倒していったのが胸熱だったな
ベスト16でスペイン（ラウル・カシージャス）
準々決勝でブラジル（ロナウド ・ロベカル）
準決勝でポルトガル（フィーゴ）
と、レアルのチームメイトを順番に倒していったのが胸熱だったな
633名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>621
フィーゴはその時はインテル所属な
フィーゴはその時はインテル所属な
319名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>313
チームの王様四人並べとて機能しない典型例でしょ。
チームの王様四人並べとて機能しない典型例でしょ。
314名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nkX4vhxj02023/06/26(月) 21:38:04.93
モドリッチが余裕でやれてるしジダンも余裕だろ
318名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Dkbk2A3f02023/06/26(月) 21:39:56.52
今はもうパワーとスピードがあればテクニックをぶっちぎれるからな
判断の早さが無いと全部消えるけどｗ
判断の早さが無いと全部消えるけどｗ
323名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>318
宮市やウォルコットとかはあまり大成しなかったな。スピードだけでは流石にね
宮市やウォルコットとかはあまり大成しなかったな。スピードだけでは流石にね
321名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m02023/06/26(月) 21:40:55.55
日本代表も2010南アあたりからプレースピードが速くなったけどそれまでは3タッチ以上かけてボール回すのが仕様だったからな
324名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:R60RIER70
>>321
世界のサッカー戦術が画一化されてきたってのもありそう
昔は各クラブの色が強すぎて代表でその戦術を統一するのが難しかったのでは
世界のサッカー戦術が画一化されてきたってのもありそう
昔は各クラブの色が強すぎて代表でその戦術を統一するのが難しかったのでは
332名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jK/i9Vff0
>>321
日本代表はむしろプレースピードが遅いままザックジャパンまで戦ってハリル以降やっと速くなったと思うけどな
インテンシティの高さがついてきたのってほんと最近
日本代表はむしろプレースピードが遅いままザックジャパンまで戦ってハリル以降やっと速くなったと思うけどな
インテンシティの高さがついてきたのってほんと最近
348名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:deMDDIEp0
>>332
ザックも縦に速い手数をかけないサッカー目指してたんだけどバカの本田がポゼッションに走っちゃった
あいつすごく頭悪いからな
ザックも縦に速い手数をかけないサッカー目指してたんだけどバカの本田がポゼッションに走っちゃった
あいつすごく頭悪いからな
358名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jK/i9Vff0
>>348
でも縦に速く手数をかけないスタイルを目指すなら
選手の取捨選択をやらないといけなかったと思うし
結局本田香川遠藤とか並べてそんなサッカーはできないよ
でも縦に速く手数をかけないスタイルを目指すなら
選手の取捨選択をやらないといけなかったと思うし
結局本田香川遠藤とか並べてそんなサッカーはできないよ
368名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:P+GIqtce0
>>358
むしろ香川は犠牲者じゃね？
むしろ香川は犠牲者じゃね？
327名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JHkldrtR02023/06/26(月) 21:43:17.63
今は戦術で
個人の技量を補うって言っていいのか分からんけど
昔の超個人技サッカーを再現するみたいな
はっきり言って偽物だから
本物にはかなわんよ
個人の技量を補うって言っていいのか分からんけど
昔の超個人技サッカーを再現するみたいな
はっきり言って偽物だから
本物にはかなわんよ
329名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TlvRC94A02023/06/26(月) 21:43:22.56
ドイツやイタリアが弱くなったのも黒人全盛の時代に乗り遅れたからだろうな
イングランドなんかは黒人主体にして強くなった
まあ政治問題がからむから難しいテーマだが
イングランドなんかは黒人主体にして強くなった
まあ政治問題がからむから難しいテーマだが
336名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb70
>>329
逆だよ
黒人が多くなってドイツは弱くなった
逆だよ
黒人が多くなってドイツは弱くなった
334名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HwnTetYj0
>>329
優勝したアルゼンチンは白人じゃね？
優勝したアルゼンチンは白人じゃね？
339名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aSVeZ5KW0
>>334
白人ではない
イタリアやスペイン系はアラブ人の血筋混じってるだろ
白人ではない
イタリアやスペイン系はアラブ人の血筋混じってるだろ
350名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uWzE56SG0
>>339
それ黒人じゃないやん
それ黒人じゃないやん
330名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9v71zWZ+02023/06/26(月) 21:43:25.15
1on1の技術は低下してると思う連動して囲んでやる必要ないから
331名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:smh08uft02023/06/26(月) 21:43:26.56
ジダン
「それぞれに時代があり、私たちも素晴らしいチームだった。だが、私の時代にロナウドもメッシもいなかった。
数字を見てほしい。それで気付くだろう、信じられない数字だ。彼らの野心が、ああいった選手にした。常に勝利を求め、ゴールを求める意欲がね。」
「今日のサッカーは、よりスピーディになっているのは確かだ。選手たちはより強じんなフィジカルを身につけている。より強く、より走るようになっている。
それが違いと言えるかもしれない。そして、プレーに関してはロナウドとメッシがおり、それからほかの選手たちがいる」
「それぞれに時代があり、私たちも素晴らしいチームだった。だが、私の時代にロナウドもメッシもいなかった。
数字を見てほしい。それで気付くだろう、信じられない数字だ。彼らの野心が、ああいった選手にした。常に勝利を求め、ゴールを求める意欲がね。」
「今日のサッカーは、よりスピーディになっているのは確かだ。選手たちはより強じんなフィジカルを身につけている。より強く、より走るようになっている。
それが違いと言えるかもしれない。そして、プレーに関してはロナウドとメッシがおり、それからほかの選手たちがいる」
335名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:b/WcwBEw02023/06/26(月) 21:44:34.07
メッシくらいなら片手間で抑えられるけどね
サカ豚🐷は貧弱だから無理だろうね
サカ豚🐷は貧弱だから無理だろうね
338名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vJedDzgO02023/06/26(月) 21:45:26.94
オランダって黒人いるけど弱くね
343名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aSVeZ5KW0
>>338
全部黒いのにすればいいのに
全部黒いのにすればいいのに
342名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hwrystCA02023/06/26(月) 21:46:14.30
ジダンなら現代でもやれるよ
むしろ一番上手いまである
むしろ一番上手いまである
344名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:V+KSKFZo02023/06/26(月) 21:46:52.18
いやおまえめっちゃガタイ強かったやんけ
346名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb702023/06/26(月) 21:47:31.97
モドリッチ、クロース、ギュンドアン、デプライネ
この辺がジダンより上なわけがない
370名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qrRTvxFC0
>>346
モドリッチが強豪国の選手でW杯優勝してたらジダン超えてたな
クロアチアではW杯優勝無理だろう
2018の決勝フランス有利な判定だったし
モドリッチが強豪国の選手でW杯優勝してたらジダン超えてたな
クロアチアではW杯優勝無理だろう
2018の決勝フランス有利な判定だったし
382名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb70
>>370
それはない
ジダンは華麗だったから
それはない
ジダンは華麗だったから
383名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:P+GIqtce0
>>370
モドリッチのプレースタイルでは厳しいと思う
スーパースターは数字や実績だけでなく見栄えが必要
ゲルト・ミュラーがクライフ、ベッケンバウアーに及ばず
クリロナがメッシに及ばなかったのは結局プレーの華が原因かと
モドリッチのプレースタイルでは厳しいと思う
スーパースターは数字や実績だけでなく見栄えが必要
ゲルト・ミュラーがクライフ、ベッケンバウアーに及ばず
クリロナがメッシに及ばなかったのは結局プレーの華が原因かと
349名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wuE4lDKG02023/06/26(月) 21:47:35.05
ジダンは通用すると思うけど現代サッカーなら中盤やらされるんだろな、トップ下はさすがに厳しそう
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I highly advise stay away from this site. My own encounter with it has been purely dismay as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, look for a trustworthy service for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this site. My personal experience with it was only dismay along with concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, find a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I urge you steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it has been purely dismay as well as concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
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I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it was only dismay as well as concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, look for an honest platform for your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it was only disappointment along with doubts about deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a more reputable service for your needs.
I urge you steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay and suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, find a more reputable service for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it has been purely dismay as well as suspicion of fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a more reputable service to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was only dismay as well as concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this site. My personal experience with it was purely disappointment as well as concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or even better, find an honest site for your needs.