451名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9v71zWZ+02023/06/26(月) 22:06:51.03
ロナウジーニョはボールの扱いもだがチャンスメイクのセンスが凄かった
452名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb702023/06/26(月) 22:07:15.59
そもそもモドリッチがサッカーやってた頃ジダンもやってたんだよな
454名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gw4+jU3O02023/06/26(月) 22:07:50.83
セカイイチになってもセカイイチの豚双六やきうのテレビ放映権を
セカイのどこの国も買いに来てくれない
セカイイチ不人気なセカイイチらしい
日本の豚双六やきう（笑）
セカイのどこの国も買いに来てくれない
セカイイチ不人気なセカイイチらしい
日本の豚双六やきう（笑）
459名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UzuSnycZ02023/06/26(月) 22:09:10.87
この人フィジカルだけじゃなかったのか。
461名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DtouXa8t02023/06/26(月) 22:09:27.20
ジダンはフィジカル強いからトップ選手になれたんだけどな
当時はどんどんボールホルダーへのプレスが組織的に激しくなってた時期で、そこで自分の身体を相手に当ててキープできるジダンは凄かった
少し前の世代の小柄でフィジカルが強くないバッジョが輝けなくなってきた時代だった
でそういう意味ではこのジダンのインタビューで語る「フィジカル」ってのはその部分ではなくて90分間走れるアスリート的な強さの部分だろうな
当時はどんどんボールホルダーへのプレスが組織的に激しくなってた時期で、そこで自分の身体を相手に当ててキープできるジダンは凄かった
少し前の世代の小柄でフィジカルが強くないバッジョが輝けなくなってきた時代だった
でそういう意味ではこのジダンのインタビューで語る「フィジカル」ってのはその部分ではなくて90分間走れるアスリート的な強さの部分だろうな
469名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bDneenfF0
>>461
アホ過ぎる
それはフィジカルじゃなくて運動量、スタミナの話になる
アホ過ぎる
それはフィジカルじゃなくて運動量、スタミナの話になる
身体の強さ、身体のパワーがフィジカル
キック力とか爆発力とはまた別
こんなのもわからないスポーツ童貞の知ったかは滑稽
470名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o9hp6YOJ02023/06/26(月) 22:11:59.53
いやいやジダンはどんな時代でもトップになれる
475名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WFdjUL9Z02023/06/26(月) 22:14:08.06
少なくとも日本は確実にレベル上がってるわ
中田中村時代よりも本田香川時代よりも今が上
中田中村時代よりも本田香川時代よりも今が上
478名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb70
>>475
確実と言えるかな
三笘がいないとガクンと落ちるし
確実と言えるかな
三笘がいないとガクンと落ちるし
491名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YX7WSuH10
>>478
リーガであれだけ実績上げた久保が控えに回るレベルだからな今は
リーガであれだけ実績上げた久保が控えに回るレベルだからな今は
498名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb70
>>491
リーガのレベルが昔より落ちているからね
各国のスターなんておらんし
リーガのレベルが昔より落ちているからね
各国のスターなんておらんし
495名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uWzE56SG0
>>491
スペインリーグが劣化落ちてるのは
ペルー戦のプレミアの三笘の活躍とスペインの久保の相変わらずの駄目っぷり見たら明白だろ
スペインリーグが劣化落ちてるのは
ペルー戦のプレミアの三笘の活躍とスペインの久保の相変わらずの駄目っぷり見たら明白だろ
484名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rtgfy7mp0
>>478
本田時代も本田いないときは弱かったなぁ
本田時代も本田いないときは弱かったなぁ
516名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:O6I5Pd2w0
>>478
俺達のサッカーみただろ
両サイドバックは上がりまくるし、球回しにこだわって陣形崩してボールロスト、最終ラインがダイレクトに危険に晒されて酷いもんだったわ
ありゃ本田のせいだわな
本田のいなかったサンドニのフランス戦はカウンターで勝ってるしな
俺達のサッカーみただろ
両サイドバックは上がりまくるし、球回しにこだわって陣形崩してボールロスト、最終ラインがダイレクトに危険に晒されて酷いもんだったわ
ありゃ本田のせいだわな
本田のいなかったサンドニのフランス戦はカウンターで勝ってるしな
522名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m0
>>516
前田遼一もいなかったんだよな。カタール大会で大迫というポスト役を選ばなかった森保ジャパンのジャイキリに通じるものがある
前田遼一もいなかったんだよな。カタール大会で大迫というポスト役を選ばなかった森保ジャパンのジャイキリに通じるものがある
518名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb70
>>516
まぁね
それ考えると今の代表が最強になるかもしれない
とりあえずアジアカップ優勝そしてベスト8
まぁね
それ考えると今の代表が最強になるかもしれない
とりあえずアジアカップ優勝そしてベスト8
519名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9v71zWZ+0
>>516
あんなたまたまコーナーキックのこぼれ球が上手いこと転がっただけの試合であれだけイキるヤツが多かった時から比べたら落ち着いたよか
あんなたまたまコーナーキックのこぼれ球が上手いこと転がっただけの試合であれだけイキるヤツが多かった時から比べたら落ち着いたよか
480名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m02023/06/26(月) 22:15:52.11
サッカーのフィジカルってフィジカルテストなら立幅跳びなど各種ジャンプにスプリントにプロアジリティテストみたいな方向変換走のことだからな
バネと走力のことだよ
バネと走力のことだよ
483名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hsfTnj+T02023/06/26(月) 22:16:23.06
昔ウイイレでジダンの事ハゲハゲ言ってたけど俺もなりかけててヤバイ
488名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o9hp6YOJ02023/06/26(月) 22:17:20.95
みんなが走ってる中チンタラ歩くことで目の前にスペースを生むのが天才メッシ
490名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cn53yGb702023/06/26(月) 22:17:58.78
確かロベカルもドーピングしてたんだよな
昔の方がフィジカル凄いんだよw
昔の方がフィジカル凄いんだよw
494名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o9hp6YOJ02023/06/26(月) 22:19:15.88
昔のジダンより今の鎌田の方がすごい
521名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bk1OI+/N0
>>494
日本の選手も上手くなったよな。この前の堂安のミドル、浅野の針に糸を通すようなシュート、
前回の乾のミドル、セネガル戦でのゴール、原口のゴール、ここらは最初の岡田ジャパン、
トリシエ、ジーコジャパンの頃は打てる選手殆ど居なかったからな。
唯一玉田のブラジルを本気にさせたシュートはこのレベルだったが。
日本の選手も上手くなったよな。この前の堂安のミドル、浅野の針に糸を通すようなシュート、
前回の乾のミドル、セネガル戦でのゴール、原口のゴール、ここらは最初の岡田ジャパン、
トリシエ、ジーコジャパンの頃は打てる選手殆ど居なかったからな。
唯一玉田のブラジルを本気にさせたシュートはこのレベルだったが。
582名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nQY/FC1i0
>>521
シュートについては本当に本田とか香川とかの時代から急に上手くなったと思うわ
シュートについては本当に本田とか香川とかの時代から急に上手くなったと思うわ
591名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>582
その前が鈴木隆行とか柳沢敦とか玉田とかムァキが前線にいるんだからそう感じるのは当然だろうな
その前が鈴木隆行とか柳沢敦とか玉田とかムァキが前線にいるんだからそう感じるのは当然だろうな
596名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6bt3nd8H0
>>591
いや中田も小野も得点意識低かったしな
むかしの日本は流れから点取れないってニュースでも連呼されてたし
いや中田も小野も得点意識低かったしな
むかしの日本は流れから点取れないってニュースでも連呼されてたし
620名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qrRTvxFC0
>>596
得点意識というか当時は基本的に2トップのFWが得点する
おまけで中盤の選手が得点するという印象だった
得点意識というか当時は基本的に2トップのFWが得点する
おまけで中盤の選手が得点するという印象だった
599名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>596
そりゃ鈴木隆行や柳沢厚がフォワードにいりゃあ流れでの得点なんて望めるわけもなく
そりゃ鈴木隆行や柳沢厚がフォワードにいりゃあ流れでの得点なんて望めるわけもなく
611名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6bt3nd8H0
>>599
fwが決定力不足だったのは間違い無いけど
他の奴もシユート下手だった
柳なんてパスはうまいんだから
fwが決定力不足だったのは間違い無いけど
他の奴もシユート下手だった
柳なんてパスはうまいんだから
526名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>521
2005コンフェデでのブラジル戦の中村俊輔のゴールと2006ドイツ戦の高原の一点目見て欲しい
2005コンフェデでのブラジル戦の中村俊輔のゴールと2006ドイツ戦の高原の一点目見て欲しい
530名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m0
>>526
本番と花試合を較べてもなぁ
本番と花試合を較べてもなぁ
534名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>530
コンフェデが花試合扱いなのか。価値観の相違だな
コンフェデが花試合扱いなのか。価値観の相違だな
538名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bk1OI+/N0
>>534
もう10年も前に無くなった大会なんて花試合と同等の扱いする人が殆どかと・・・。
もう10年も前に無くなった大会なんて花試合と同等の扱いする人が殆どかと・・・。
544名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>538
南米や欧州チームが思うならまだしもアジアのチームがコンフェデを花試合って偉くなったなぁ日本も
南米や欧州チームが思うならまだしもアジアのチームがコンフェデを花試合って偉くなったなぁ日本も
533名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bk1OI+/N0
>>526
まぁどっちも凄かったけどコンフェデや親善試合じゃね・・・ｗ
まぁどっちも凄かったけどコンフェデや親善試合じゃね・・・ｗ
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I highly advise steer clear of this site. My own encounter with it was only frustration and doubts about fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, look for an honest site for your needs.
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I strongly recommend to avoid this site. The experience I had with it has been only disappointment along with suspicion of deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, look for a more reputable site to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it was only disappointment and concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, look for a more reputable site to fulfill your requirements.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this site. My own encounter with it has been purely dismay as well as doubts about deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was only disappointment and doubts about deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find a trustworthy site to meet your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this site. My own encounter with it has been purely dismay as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, look for a trustworthy service for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this site. My personal experience with it was only dismay along with concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, find a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I urge you steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it has been purely dismay as well as concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it has been purely frustration along with doubts about scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, look for a more reputable service for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it was only dismay as well as concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, look for an honest platform for your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it was only disappointment along with doubts about deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a more reputable service for your needs.
I urge you steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay and suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, find a more reputable service for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it has been purely dismay as well as suspicion of fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a more reputable service to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was only dismay as well as concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this site. My personal experience with it was purely disappointment as well as concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or even better, find an honest site for your needs.