900名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dcK6DSbx02023/06/27(火) 09:12:07.27
ジダンは筋肉が柔らかすぎる、トラップでもドリブルでもありえん角度からボールタッチできる
901名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2Jg+q+Zt02023/06/27(火) 09:12:18.87
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904名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CnMJkO5Q0
>>901
この試合生で見たわ
てか映ってるわ
この試合生で見たわ
てか映ってるわ
908名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yNmCFUMW0
>>901
ジダンのロシアンルーレットはいつみても凄いな
ジダンのロシアンルーレットはいつみても凄いな
911名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eSfAJwER0
>>908
怖すぎで草
怖すぎで草
903名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZWI7HZ+02023/06/27(火) 09:13:15.70
しかし大谷のモンスターフィジカル見てるとサッカーのフィジカルってなんなだろってなる
906名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8DkTTeCR0
>>903
大谷は野球じゃなく大谷だからな(笑)
大谷は野球じゃなく大谷だからな(笑)
905名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AsRhs4xz02023/06/27(火) 09:15:31.68
フィジカルというよりもスピード
909名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KZRaputD02023/06/27(火) 09:19:52.76
現代で難しいのはバッジオとかラウルみたいなタイプだろうね
天然記念物になっちまった
サッカー界にオイルマネー流入で生態系破壊だよ
天然記念物になっちまった
サッカー界にオイルマネー流入で生態系破壊だよ
931名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jygxIK/B0
>>909
バッジョはメッシみたいに特別な使い方すれば大丈夫
ラウールはそれこそ今の時代にめっちゃ合ってるじゃん
ずっと労を惜しまず走れるし顔出せるしテクニックも極上だし球離れ良いしジダンの言うフィジカルはラウールが全て持ってる
バッジョはメッシみたいに特別な使い方すれば大丈夫
ラウールはそれこそ今の時代にめっちゃ合ってるじゃん
ずっと労を惜しまず走れるし顔出せるしテクニックも極上だし球離れ良いしジダンの言うフィジカルはラウールが全て持ってる
962名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V/nMaU0n0
>>931
同意、ラウールはただのごっつぁんゴーラーみたいに思われがちだけどそれこそ何でも出来るし走り回って献身的だった、今の時代にめちゃくちゃ適合すると思う
同意、ラウールはただのごっつぁんゴーラーみたいに思われがちだけどそれこそ何でも出来るし走り回って献身的だった、今の時代にめちゃくちゃ適合すると思う
912名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bHSRo7Us02023/06/27(火) 09:30:10.16
日本でいうと
中田は現代でも通用するだろうけど
小野みたいなファンタジスタ系は厳しいってことやろ
中田は現代でも通用するだろうけど
小野みたいなファンタジスタ系は厳しいってことやろ
913名無しさん@恐縮ですID:K/+m5d0n02023/06/27(火) 09:34:10.19
フィジカルに恵まれてない鎌田が主力選手でヨーロッパリーグで優勝するくらいだからな
要は選手なんて使いようてこと
915名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lJLaP5dr02023/06/27(火) 09:38:11.41
黒人て足元もと下手だよね
身体能力で凌駕する選択をしてしまう
ペレも足元はブラジル代表のチームメイトと比べるとそれほど際立っているわけじゃない
ただ動きがあの時代では異次元だな
身体能力で凌駕する選択をしてしまう
ペレも足元はブラジル代表のチームメイトと比べるとそれほど際立っているわけじゃない
ただ動きがあの時代では異次元だな
917名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FbNNi+IL02023/06/27(火) 09:39:23.71
ジダンはフィジカル強かったと思う。
918名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PHCcBcrC02023/06/27(火) 09:39:25.72
ジダンだってあの身長を考えたら十分早いだろーに
昔だって速さが無けりゃやっていけなかったよ
勿論今はそれがもっと早くなっただけで
昔だって速さが無けりゃやっていけなかったよ
勿論今はそれがもっと早くなっただけで
当時はジダンだってフィジカルが凄い、日本人では到底太刀打ちできないなんてことはよく言われていたことだ
919名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7mbEO0BM02023/06/27(火) 09:40:35.01
サッカー界の話かぁ
サッカー界の髪型は?
サッカー野郎はあくまでサッカー界の中で生きてて
一般人とは交流ないのかな
髪型界や美容界は?
サッカー界の髪型は?
サッカー野郎はあくまでサッカー界の中で生きてて
一般人とは交流ないのかな
髪型界や美容界は?
920名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hzNRerSk02023/06/27(火) 09:41:30.92
ジダンの選手時代もフィジカル中心だったろ。ロナウドもロベカルのようにパワーとスピードが重要視されだした時代。
スタムやデサイーみたいなモンスターなDFも現代にはいねーよ。
つまり現代サッカーは衰退してんだよ。
921名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZWI7HZ+02023/06/27(火) 09:49:46.79
日本でも野球に完敗だしな
922名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EBu5uHcU02023/06/27(火) 09:50:22.48
さすがハゲ界の王様
923名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nD+rEZIl02023/06/27(火) 09:53:15.57
大谷ってベネズエラの無名雑魚にHR王とられたマイナー競技のゴミ選手だっけ
925名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZWI7HZ+02023/06/27(火) 09:54:56.45
何年前の話だよw
今ホームランキング誰か知ってんのw
今ホームランキング誰か知ってんのw
929名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nD+rEZIl0
>>925
大谷をぶったおしてHR王とったベネズエラ人の名前知っとる?
知らんやろ 俺も知らん 世界の誰も知らん
野球のHR王なんてその程度の価値しかない
大谷をぶったおしてHR王とったベネズエラ人の名前知っとる?
知らんやろ 俺も知らん 世界の誰も知らん
野球のHR王なんてその程度の価値しかない
935名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZWI7HZ+0
>>929
バカを晒して喜んでんのお前くらいだぞw
今は大谷のホームランキングと打点王の話題しかプロ競技に興味ある人なんかいないw
ジタンって誰って話
マジで世の中見なよw
バカを晒して喜んでんのお前くらいだぞw
今は大谷のホームランキングと打点王の話題しかプロ競技に興味ある人なんかいないw
ジタンって誰って話
マジで世の中見なよw
967名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nD+rEZIl0
>>935
お前が世の中をみろ
ジダンは有名 大谷は無名 ベネズエラ出身のHR王なんて誰も知らん
お前が世の中をみろ
ジダンは有名 大谷は無名 ベネズエラ出身のHR王なんて誰も知らん
969名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZWI7HZ+0
>>967
日本人じゃないのか
それか外国に住んでるんだったら世の中のことが分かる訳ないよな
日本はいい国だぞ
大谷みたいな本物の世界的なスーパースターも出てきて国民総出でその話題で持ち切り
日本に帰って一緒に楽しんだ方がいいぞ
サッカーの話題なんかこのスレの住人くらいで誰もしなくなったからな
日本人じゃないのか
それか外国に住んでるんだったら世の中のことが分かる訳ないよな
日本はいい国だぞ
大谷みたいな本物の世界的なスーパースターも出てきて国民総出でその話題で持ち切り
日本に帰って一緒に楽しんだ方がいいぞ
サッカーの話題なんかこのスレの住人くらいで誰もしなくなったからな
980名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HI4Fi6B70
>>969
そしたらなぜこのスレにいるのだろう?
そしたらなぜこのスレにいるのだろう?
973名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nD+rEZIl0
>>969
HR王とったベネズエラ人なんて誰もしらん そのベネズエラ人に負けた大谷も無名
野球は日米の後期高齢者しか見てない
それが現実
HR王とったベネズエラ人なんて誰もしらん そのベネズエラ人に負けた大谷も無名
野球は日米の後期高齢者しか見てない
それが現実
927名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/tmQFUu202023/06/27(火) 09:55:55.29
ジダンて大器晩成型だからな。ジダンに足りなかったのはメンタルというか自信だけだな。
W杯とユーロ優勝してレアル行ったら仙人みたいになってたな。ユーベじゃすぐキレて選手踏みつけてたけど
まぁ、最後の試合も切れて退場したといえばそれまでだけど 笑
W杯とユーロ優勝してレアル行ったら仙人みたいになってたな。ユーベじゃすぐキレて選手踏みつけてたけど
まぁ、最後の試合も切れて退場したといえばそれまでだけど 笑
928名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XV1Gv7B802023/06/27(火) 09:57:44.96
何言ってるかわかんなすぎて受けるw
こいつ本当にダイジョブかー
こいつ本当にダイジョブかー
933名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wdS+yH9902023/06/27(火) 10:00:56.64
今だとJ3ですら通用しない
マラドーナといいほんと時代に恵まれたよね
マラドーナといいほんと時代に恵まれたよね
936名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/tmQFUu202023/06/27(火) 10:02:25.16
晩年のラウール走りすぎてて切なかった。若い時はポジショニング神で凄い点取りやだったのに
937名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n3FJBj3v02023/06/27(火) 10:02:39.31
ラウルはメッシと被るな
クラブじゃ凄かったが代表ではさっぱり
メッシのアルゼンチンは最後にPKもらいまくって優勝を手にできたけど
クラブじゃ凄かったが代表ではさっぱり
メッシのアルゼンチンは最後にPKもらいまくって優勝を手にできたけど
955名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Qy5tuf0R0
>>937
メッシは全盛期バルセロナメッシ比で代表での活躍イマイチというイメージがついてるだけで
仮にワールドカップの優勝がなくても代表での活躍も世界最高クラスだから
メッシは全盛期バルセロナメッシ比で代表での活躍イマイチというイメージがついてるだけで
仮にワールドカップの優勝がなくても代表での活躍も世界最高クラスだから
U20でも五輪でもコパでも活躍し優勝して南米予選でも当たり前のように活躍してる
939名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uOJt4P5f02023/06/27(火) 10:04:27.71
ジダンってめちゃくちゃテクニックあるイメージだけどプレイを見たらほとんどが3タッチ以内で捌いてるしダイレクトも多い
相手に詰め寄られる前に逃げてると言った方がいいかも
そこは勝負しろよと
相手に詰め寄られる前に逃げてると言った方がいいかも
そこは勝負しろよと
946名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gVDMJ3BX0
>>939
いい選手の条件に玉離れがいいってのかあるからな。
戦術のなかでボトルネックにならないのがいい選手。
いい選手の条件に玉離れがいいってのかあるからな。
戦術のなかでボトルネックにならないのがいい選手。
941名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jK4DNdML0
>>939
ボール持ちすぎなくていいんじゃない?
ボール持ちすぎなくていいんじゃない?
940名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KdtyMZFQ02023/06/27(火) 10:04:34.65
ラウールはワンタッチゴーラだからメッシとは違う
942名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NYrcQHmM02023/06/27(火) 10:09:33.94
CL決勝を誰も見てない時代だよ
ワールドカップも48ヵ国参加になるし
サッカーはこれからさらに衰退すると思う
ワールドカップも48ヵ国参加になるし
サッカーはこれからさらに衰退すると思う
982名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0hvn0IwB0
>>942
ワールドカップの視聴者数 自体は過去最高を更新してる
ワールドカップの視聴者数 自体は過去最高を更新してる
943名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/tmQFUu202023/06/27(火) 10:11:43.01
ジダンはセリエのディフェンダーに嫌気差してリーガに逃げたからな
945名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LbV0wjjb02023/06/27(火) 10:14:17.80
ネットでハゲ、ハゲ言ってるのってほとんど同じやつだろうなwww
948名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Qy5tuf0R02023/06/27(火) 10:15:19.59
例えばジダンはトップデビューは1990年で2006年のワールドカップでMVPになってる
90年から2006年の16年間のサッカーの進化()って奴に普通に対応している
90年から2006年の16年間のサッカーの進化()って奴に普通に対応している
メッシは2004年にトップデビューして2022年ワールドカップMVPで今年のバロンドール候補
18年間のサッカーの進化に適応している
ベンゼマは2005年にトップデビューして2022年のCL優勝得点王でバロンドール
17年間のサッカーの進化に適応している
テニスのBIG3だったり、バスケのレブロンなんかも10数年のスポーツの進化とやらに余裕で対応している
一流アスリートは肉体が衰えても15年以上ものスポーツの進化とやらに適応できているというだの現実がそこにあるのに、
何故か引退した途端に「今いたら現代スポーツの進化に適応できない人間」扱いになる不思議
953名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KdtyMZFQ0
>>948
ホアキンとか1999にデビューして今年引退していて
キャリアで2番目に得点しているのが2019だから35の時
この20年ではそんなに進化はしてないよね
ホアキンとか1999にデビューして今年引退していて
キャリアで2番目に得点しているのが2019だから35の時
この20年ではそんなに進化はしてないよね
949名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XHBJt+4402023/06/27(火) 10:15:27.66
よくわかってんじゃん
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