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【サッカー】ジダン「現代のサッカーはテクニックだけで上に行けない。私がこの時代の選手だったらフィジカルでひどい目に遭っていた」2

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500名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OSMWTJ4L02023/06/26(月) 22:22:24.54
三笘ばかり言われるが伊東も相当凄いと思うぞ
全盛期の長友ばりに走ってるだろあいつ
501名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m0
>>500
昔話のしすぎで伊東って伊東テルのことかと思った
503名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>500
今年30だっけ?運動量を武器にするのはもうそろそろ厳しくなるな
502名無しさん@恐縮ですID:o9hp6YOJ02023/06/26(月) 22:23:33.73
ジダンは今ならアントラーズのレギュラーにもなれない
そのくらいレベル違う
512名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m0
>>502
マジかよ。ピトゥカなんか欧州行ったこともない選手でジダンより上かよ
506名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>502
今の時代にジダンが転生したらセンターハーフかボランチにコンバートされてると思う
525名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4Ac0UPeS0
>>506
絶対違う。
ジダンはアジリティはないからサイドアタッカーかベンゼマみたいにゼロトップ
センターハーフは絶対ない。
最後の0506シーズンでやって中央下り目は向いてなかった。
532名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>525
個人的にはブスケツみたいな選手として現代で向いてたと思うかな
549名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vGDvqn8f0
>>532
あんな軸みたいに底で動かない選手じゃないなジダンは
アタッカーだよジダンは
552名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>549
だからブスケツと全く同じとはいってないだろ。ジダンなりの中盤の底の選手として活躍してたと思うってだけで
504名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dDqR1+Vq02023/06/26(月) 22:24:03.69
ジダンは自分を過小評価してるわ
あんたより足早くて上手くてIQ高い選手歴史上数える程しかいない
505名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8UHipIst02023/06/26(月) 22:24:37.35
母ちゃんの悪口もだめ
510名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5wuEx4+v02023/06/26(月) 22:26:20.51
フィジカルトレーニングが嫌いでセリエからリーガに行った位だからなジダン
今の選手のフィジカルトレーニング見てたらしんどいんだろうな
514名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v83qW/G/02023/06/26(月) 22:27:43.82
向こうで言うフィジカルって日本人がイメージする身体、当たりの強さだけじゃなくてスピードやアジリティも含んでるからな
515名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5r4CtbD002023/06/26(月) 22:27:51.27
エンバペとかサッカー界にボルトが現れたようなもんだからな

最初から肉体の機能が違う

523名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DnHHy7Yl02023/06/26(月) 22:32:44.39
パチキのジダン
524名無しさん@恐縮ですID:O6I5Pd2w02023/06/26(月) 22:32:58.38
サイドバックの片方はCBタイプにするのは継続すんのかな
あれは良いわ
527名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KNoVz6Pc02023/06/26(月) 22:34:35.71
今の日本代表ってセットプレーの質が落ちすぎて
せっかく伸びてる他のプラス面を相殺してしまってる
サッカーのゴールは速攻とセットプレーが基本だからな
せっかく速攻できるようになったのにセットプレーがゴミなのがな悲しいところだ
528名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ek2vgedE02023/06/26(月) 22:34:43.83
強フィジカルで技術もあるスターの現代型の元祖はフリット、またはライカールト
531名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ERaoKj+I02023/06/26(月) 22:37:12.07
いやいやジダンが所属していた頃のリッピユベントスなんてハードなプレッシングサッカーやったやん
535名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m02023/06/26(月) 22:41:11.56
昔の代表の花試合で一番好きなのは2004年ぐらいのイングランド戦
中村→三都主→小野のやつ
546名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Yv9QM8nX0
>>535
これか
俊さんも小野も良かったよなあ夢があった

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554名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m0
>>546
そうそう。これこれ。今みたいにボール奪われそうになったらすぐプレス、みたいなトラジション意識ないサッカー。プロでも攻撃練習とか守備練習とか分けてやってた時代
536名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4ysSPngT02023/06/26(月) 22:42:25.15
これはめちゃくちゃわかるわ銀河系応援してた頃今のメッシみたいに歩いてるの4人とかいて
対バルサもそうだけどCLとか走れるチームにあっさり負けてたわ
537名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xiOPdsgy02023/06/26(月) 22:42:39.58
今のサッカーってバスケ見てるみたい
539名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6bt3nd8H02023/06/26(月) 22:43:55.99
昔ってか最近まで日本なんて舐められてたからな
南アフリカの時とか抽選回ですげーばかにされて岡田切れてたし
550名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>539
カメルーンデンマークオランダの代表監督だけで記念撮影してて岡田はハブられてたな
馴れ合うつもりもなかったのかもしれないけど間違いなく日本は舐められてたな
ドイツ大会の醜態もあったし
560名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6bt3nd8H0
>>550
カカとかロベカルだかも組み合わせに対して笑ってたからなw日本ってやっぱそんな扱いなんやって悔しかったわ
569名無しさん@恐縮ですID:O6I5Pd2w0
>>560
実際、直前までボロボロだったからな。
カメルーン戦も本当にこのメンバーでいいの?って感じだったし。
だけど両サイドに走れる選手を置いた岡田が正しかった。
やっぱ対世界ではサイドに個で勝負できるアタッカーいないとダメだわな。ザッケローニはサイドに香川とかキチガイだったわ。
577名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VTCibsX00
>>569
あれは意味不明にエトーをサイドに置いてくれて助かった
中に張り付かれたら中澤と闘莉王じゃまず抑えられない
581名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KNoVz6Pc0
>>577
中澤と闘莉王は裏さえ取られないならエトーはそんな怖くないでしょ
583名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X5fGqUYD0
>>577
意味不明とかじゃなくて協会との金の分配巡ってアフリカチームあるあるの内紛で揉めに揉めてたからなカメルーン
540名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fDvVcMHn02023/06/26(月) 22:43:57.27
こういうこと言えるジダンて素敵だね
やきうの老害とか昔の時代ならあーだこーだとかなんの役にも立たないクソみたいなことしか言わないからね
561名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Bk1OI+/N0
>>540
まぁジダンも実際メッシやクリロナには到底敵わんと思ってるだろ。
バロンドールの数が違い過ぎるし、W杯も母国での優勝。それまでのレジェンドと比べ、
得点数が少な過ぎると言われてたしね。ただ大舞台では強かったね。
W杯決勝で通算3点も決めてるから(1点はPKだけど)。
568名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fDvVcMHn0
>>561
うーん、敵う敵わないとかじゃなくてジダンはジダンというブランドなんだよね
どっちが上とか下とかそういう話じゃない
547名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2kOlPLXZ0
>>540
世界中の試合を見まくって
冷静に昔の現代サッカーの比較してるのが
過去の栄光にしがみつかずイイ
多少の謙遜も含まれてるとしてもw
551名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fDvVcMHn0
>>547
プレースタイルの賛否はあれどボールを持ったジダンに誰もが注目するし何か魅せてくれるというそのワクワク感だけでジダンは金が取れた選手だね
541名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SjnOpWaY02023/06/26(月) 22:44:09.83
エンバペとかクソ上手くて、かつクソスピードがあるという。
でも日本にと三笘とか伊東とか、テクがあってスピードがあってそこそこそこ身長がある選手が出てきたよね。
542名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Bk1OI+/N02023/06/26(月) 22:45:03.98
あ、2017年もあったか。ドイツが3軍で優勝したんだよな。すっかり忘れてた。
543名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4ysSPngT02023/06/26(月) 22:45:13.93
ラウルベッカムとか走ってたけどロナウドジダンフィーゴが歩いてるせいで
リーガでも全然圧勝ばっかでは無いって当時思ったわ
545名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6bt3nd8H02023/06/26(月) 22:46:11.18
進化を認められない奴ってサッカーファンにもいるんだな
江川だの金田だの言ってる野球ファンみたいなのって一定数いるんだな
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