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徳光和夫、6月14本塁打の大谷翔平に疑問… 「日本の野球でこれだけの成績を残せるだろうか」「米国の投手は大谷の研究を怠っている」

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650名無しさん@恐縮ですID:spD2W5Kf02023/07/01(土) 09:32:41.35
これは日米野球
国際問題化になる可能姉妹や
651名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0/v4JIJK02023/07/01(土) 09:32:43.76
大谷翔平の好物は穴子丼

これ豆な

659名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yg4JJ2tK0
>>651
昔は
モンテールのスイーツだった
655名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mEeXzQpH02023/07/01(土) 09:33:10.16
松井がとばっちりで叩かれまくっててワロタ
656名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Nz2LU9R902023/07/01(土) 09:33:19.49
テレビ捨てた一番のメリットは、この手の老害をひょんなことで見てしまう事が無くなった点だな
658名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0/v4JIJK02023/07/01(土) 09:33:25.29
大谷翔平の「田んぼアート」が見頃 出身地の岩手
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20230628/k10014111131000.html
https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20230627/22/coloroza/06/c5/j/o1080063115305283497.jpg
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20230628/k10014111131000.html
660🤡@意味不明な力を得し者ID:rcVKwNh/02023/07/01(土) 09:33:31.98
yes of theかのわったしんは「広島に二度と帰らない&住まない結&論からの東京に永住でしゅるん~永続的に思惑&魂胆も不可能~」な内&容(イカ串`)y-°°°

※THE soかのわったしんにも人権&人生&選ぶ権利&気持ちが存在するのでsoれを剥奪しようと目論む連中(特に叶う事がない広島粘着連中&デスストーカー女)はプーチンの極み。(yesあの手この手&その手&奥の手&かれこれ同じ手で無意味&共感もしない&何故なら求めてnothing)

662名無しさん@恐縮ですID:x/RRxhUJ02023/07/01(土) 09:33:38.09
バスの後部座席で寝てろよ、ボケ老人・・。
663名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qqhHQWm702023/07/01(土) 09:33:45.06
日本メディアはあまりプレッシャーかけないでくれよ
今年が一番いい成績を残せるかもしれない
見守りましょうや
665名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xF3h+O5j02023/07/01(土) 09:34:08.76
大谷リフティング動画に元日本代表MFが驚愕 「サッカーまで上手いんか」
https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1679537405/
ファン 「何させても一流」「人生何回目だ」

大谷は3刀流だからなw

688名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cTg4a40R0
>>665
アホかw
リフティングで驚愕って
リップサービスすぎて草
667名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+9CcBrvM02023/07/01(土) 09:34:28.54
大谷が日本時代より成績が上なんだからメジャーは日本のプロ野球よりレベルが低いって
野球ファンは同意しないだろうけどサッカーファンは納得するよね
古橋がスコットでJリーグ時代よりも得点獲ってもリーグレベルが低いだけだし
リーグレベルを相対化して見れば日本のプロ野球の方が上だって分かるんだよね
820名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TNQTWVVX0
>>667
それ大谷だけで他の野手は、、w
668名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YS7p6m5T02023/07/01(土) 09:34:36.96
まず大谷翔平という東洋人のための米国ベースボールになってしまっているので、日本野球のほうがレベルが高いと勘違いしてしまっても不思議ではない。
いやいや、そんなことないからね。
670名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1YPWqVoL02023/07/01(土) 09:34:49.15
メジャーで50打数6安打ホームランゼロの西武のマキノンが慣れない一年目で251 ホームラン9本すか
671名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nNitf36602023/07/01(土) 09:35:06.29
ボンズあんだけ四球あったのになんで大谷と勝負すんだろ
708名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qlYzWvkl0
>>671
大谷が打席に入るだけで、スゲ~ワクワクするんだとよw
所謂、悟空状態やね
勝負に勝って家族、子供とかに自慢したい言うてた…
これ殆どの投手が同じ気持ちと向こうのバラエティで複数人の選手が話してたわ
672名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EsefG1TO02023/07/01(土) 09:35:21.62
直接メジャー行ってたらこうはならなかったろうな
ファイターズ経由で良かった
683名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xF3h+O5j0
>>672
日本野球とばして一気にメジャーに挑戦した結城海斗も失敗したよな
やっぱり日本野球に貢献してからメジャーに行くのが仁義だよ
673名無しさん@恐縮ですID:p5CLlVEA02023/07/01(土) 09:35:23.81
こういう敬意を示せない老害は要らん
むこうの21世紀以降のセイバー研究攻めは毎年好記録出すのが難しい
674名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RbanMhkZ02023/07/01(土) 09:35:25.24
阪神・才木のフォークを片膝付きでホームランをしたのを忘れたのか、徳光
あれは完璧なフォーク、クソボールだ
ストライクゾーンの外側もホームランしているんだよ、シーズン中もな
676名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xF3h+O5j02023/07/01(土) 09:35:42.57
三笘薫 「大谷選手のようにやりたい」
https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1679202199/
大谷翔平さんは結果を求められて結果を出しているというのは本当にすごい。

大谷翔平の価値に欧州メディアが脱帽
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/ede8e09c5f07898de4298538b4b91de9f2dd85a0
稀有な才能を絶賛 「メッシとノイアーが1人の人間に」

677名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dPIQ302l02023/07/01(土) 09:35:55.75
しかし松井時代と比べ強打者本当に少なくなった
1発ある打者は大谷やジャッジみたいなのは少なく
シュワバーやアロンソみたいな低打率のマン振り野郎だらけ
昔ならアダムダンみたいにバカにされる打者
691名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0hUfvVx40
>>677
お薬禁止されたからやろ
678名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5pRLfHL102023/07/01(土) 09:36:04.30
日本プロ野球よりは全然レベルが高いが

最近のメジャーは確かにレベルが下がってる
バリー・ボンズ時代と比べたら間違いなくねww

ようはメジャーのレベルが下がったと感じるのは
ステロイド禁止になったから
バリー・ボンズ時代はステロイド注射毎日10本打って
年間70本ホームラン打ってたからね

746名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tLuh4MkP0
>>678
アレックス・ロドリゲスのステロイド使用告白はショックだったな

世界最高の打者だと思ってたから…

684名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RiHjkVIA02023/07/01(土) 09:36:54.19
普通に大リーグ見てたら物凄いデータ重視野球て分かるのにな
シフトは排除されたけど去年までの大谷シフトや弱点つく配球徹底してるからな
今年打ててるのは単純に去年までの苦手コースも打ってるからだよ
ホームランなら内角低め以外ほぼ全て満遍なく打って内角低めもヒットは逆に多く打ってるから投げるとこないんだよ
686名無しさん@恐縮です2023/07/01(土) 09:37:38.12
俺もこれ思ったわw
メジャーが落ち目すぎるから
日本マネーをゲットするための大事なお得意様みたいなもんだと思うw
700名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp0
>>686
それなら筒香鈴木誠也はMVP取ってるわ
687名無しさん@恐縮ですID:O0UDrx6702023/07/01(土) 09:37:39.17
大谷のレベルアップが著しいだけなんだけどな
あとパワー負けをしていないのが大きい
689名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pXrh86OI02023/07/01(土) 09:37:43.52
チームが弱いから三冠とったムラカミみたいな扱い
690名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bwQnAbHm02023/07/01(土) 09:37:47.01
力いっぱい投げて打たれたらしょうがない、そういう野球をしてるんじゃないかと思ってた
相手の苦手なコースを研究するとか男らしくない、みたいな
693名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YS7p6m5T02023/07/01(土) 09:37:51.75
今、大谷翔平を見ることは、後世に語り継がれる歴史を見ているということ。
694名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OGMzXCqJ02023/07/01(土) 09:37:55.73
数字しか見てなさそう、失投とは言えないコースの球でもホームランにしてるし日本の狭い球場なんかでやったら外野フライ全部ホームランや
695名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ui8sPb3S02023/07/01(土) 09:38:02.73
いまだに松井が一番だと思ってそう
696名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JJ3HuwnP02023/07/01(土) 09:38:07.50
筒香「そのとおり!」
697名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7wgSahnS02023/07/01(土) 09:38:18.55
松井の13本抜いちゃったから不機嫌なんかな【笑】
698名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1YPWqVoL02023/07/01(土) 09:38:19.51
イチローや大谷が打ち方変えないと対応できなかったんだから。イチローも率も長打力もNPBより落ちてるしね。日本では圧倒的パワーヒッターの松井が日本にいるときみたいな球を運ぶような打ち方じゃぜんぜん打球が飛ばないと小さいコンパクトなパンチショットみたいなバッティングに変えたよね。
699名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UUI3neU702023/07/01(土) 09:38:20.21
アメリカはサッカーに夢中だからな

野球なんてアメリカの落ちこぼれしかしてないから

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