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徳光和夫、6月14本塁打の大谷翔平に疑問… 「日本の野球でこれだけの成績を残せるだろうか」「米国の投手は大谷の研究を怠っている」

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751名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RbanMhkZ02023/07/01(土) 09:45:21.65
徳光は数字だけではなく、実際のプレィを観て語れ
松井が月間13本も打ったのは、それはそれで凄い事、オオタニさ~んはまだ2度目に過ぎないけどな
下手したら今年中にもう一回やらかしちゃうかも
松井じゃないけど、何をやらかしても驚かない、そういう域に達してるのだよ
上段ではなく長くしたバットの感触に慣れだしたのなら有り得る
752名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pDdjrDTK02023/07/01(土) 09:45:30.39
大谷は適応力が半端じゃないから対応されてもすぐ適応する
日本時代から毎年進化し続けている
754名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oPZtW/Ud02023/07/01(土) 09:45:41.54
サッカーのオワコンぶりが笑える
最後のフロンティアの米国に進出しようとしてるけど
米人が退屈なサッカーなんて見るわけないw
アメリカ人がサッカーを観ない理由

「女子供のスポーツ」
「サッカーは1時間半走り回って1-0 w」
「多少当たっただけでカードが出て興ざめ」
「あまりにも退屈だから。引き分けが多すぎ」
「ワールドカップなんてペンキが乾くのを眺めてるくらい退屈だねw」
「インプレーより、フィールド外に出てる時間の方が長いじゃないか。」

「我々は米国生まれじゃないスポーツはあまり好きじゃないからね。」
「我々はサッカーを観て育ったわけじゃないから。スポーツは自分が観て育ったものを観るものだよ」
「欧州のファンは大抵1つのスポーツ サッカーだけを観る。」
「しかし、米国には4大スポーツ(フットボール、ベースボール、バスケットボール、ホッケー)がある」

「サッカーって、ちょっとぶつかっただけで大げさに足が痛いアピールするよね」
「でもファウルが取れなかったら、何もなかったようにスクッと立ち上がるのがウケる」

780名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qqhHQWm70
>>754
でもU17見たけど、身長高くて運動神経いい子どもは多分サッカーにとられてる
755名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Pc3HED3N02023/07/01(土) 09:45:51.56
ぶっちゃけ、漫画のMAJORがなかったら、大谷は存在しなかったかもしれない
MAJORの中では、吾郎がサイヤング賞
佐藤寿也がホームラン王になっている
大谷はこれを再現しようとしている

大谷翔平、高校時代の愛読漫画を現地紙が紹介「リアル『MAJOR』だ」
2021年5月24日 10時53分

アスレチックス戦に勝利、チームメートと喜び合うエンゼルス・大谷翔平(AP)

エンゼルスの地元紙「ロサンゼルス・タイムズ」は23日、二刀流で活躍する大谷翔平選手(26)を人気漫画「MAJOR(メジャー)」
のキャラクターに見立てた特集記事を掲載した。
【写真】不気味で笑える!?笑顔の大谷が大量プリントされたTシャツ
記事では「二刀流の日本の漫画ヒーローに影響を受け、大谷はフィールドで奇跡を起こしている」とし、
大谷が岩手・花巻東高時代に人気漫画「MAJOR(メジャー)」がお気に入りだったと紹介。
主人公の茂野吾郎は102マイル(約164キロ)の直球を投げ、
打力も秀で、さらに米国・アナハイムのチームで活躍したという大谷との共通点を挙げた。
特集記事にはエンゼルスのユニホームを着た大谷が二刀流で活躍している様子を、
コミック風のタッチで描いたイラストも掲載。紙面中央には「大谷」と漢字で配置し、地元での注目の高さを示している。

757名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C9FaL/gj02023/07/01(土) 09:46:33.40
これは栗山監督の功績も大きいわな
他の監督だと才能ツブされていたかも
772名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TN9/c3d/0
>>757
でも、くりやまだったら万中なんかまともに使わなかっただろうな
あのレベルでも本塁打王、打点王になれそうなのが今の野球かな
758名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TN9/c3d/02023/07/01(土) 09:46:41.30
万中が本塁打王なんかのショボいプロリーグに
大谷が戻って来ることないだろうな
771名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yHezydc60
>>758
村上にはしっかり実力差見せつけたが
結局村上はもう日本でも通用してねえしな
日本投手陣も決して無策じゃないんだよ
大谷が日本来たらしっかり研究する
785名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp0
>>771
有原や山口は全く通用しなかったけどな

日本の研究がショボい証拠

798名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TN9/c3d/0
>>785
研究関係なくね?
日本の本塁打王が万波だぜ
そもそものレベルがメジャーと違いすぎだろ
759名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TyDi5jlp02023/07/01(土) 09:46:47.36
大きく育てようとする監督に恵まれたよなあ
761名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gag/rMoM02023/07/01(土) 09:47:12.60
じゃあ日本で本塁打王を争うクラスがメジャーいったら研究されないから倍打てるな
バカな巨人爺だこと
786名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TN9/c3d/0
>>761
万波が打てるわけないだろ
762名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fAa2H27i02023/07/01(土) 09:47:15.60
大谷の乗った飛行機が落ちてしまえば良いんです
777名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp0
>>762
徳光の乗ってる自動車が大事故を起こせばいいだろwwwwwwwww
763名無しさん@恐縮ですID:N0OtPA9l02023/07/01(土) 09:47:22.19
日本のレベル考えろよ
どう頑張っても日本のは草野球
764名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wPkNc1Br02023/07/01(土) 09:47:25.35
対策されてないから打ててるとか何故そんな発想になるのか分からないね
日本でも去年村上にボコスカ打たれてるんだからおかしな話じゃないでしょ
766名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp02023/07/01(土) 09:47:39.16
チンチンが

異常に

小さい

徳光は

悪口しか言わないね笑

767名無しさん@恐縮ですID:spD2W5Kf02023/07/01(土) 09:47:46.21
和夫の脳波はV 9から思考停止や
768名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D0VPH07c02023/07/01(土) 09:48:04.79
何せ「毒光滓夫暴言集」でググれば無数の問題発言が((((;゚Д゚))))ガクガクブルブル((((;゚Д゚))))ガクガクブルブル
770名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uZPalQWi02023/07/01(土) 09:48:14.04
大谷くらいずば抜けてると過去の選手との比較も馬鹿らしくなるわ
773名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ukH/dweH02023/07/01(土) 09:48:38.57
二刀流は無理でもどちらかなら大谷を超える選手は今後も出て来るでしょう
782名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sanVrNDl0
>>773
打者は難しくね?
今年は下手すりゃ55本以上を打つ
812名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ukH/dweH0
>>782
今回のWBCは以前の日本と違ってホームラン打ってるから指導が変わってきてるんでしょう
822名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OpnV2enZ0
>>782
上手くいけば
774名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ykGwNFwS02023/07/01(土) 09:48:43.60
巨人は世界一の野球チームってか
775名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xklscg1J02023/07/01(土) 09:48:45.37
毒蜜
776名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DKmbvSf002023/07/01(土) 09:48:52.06
飲み屋でおっさん同士がする話
778名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UUI3neU702023/07/01(土) 09:49:22.60
アメリカとか野球なんか適当にやってるからな

日本だけ野球みたいなマイナースポーツガチでやっててバカにされて

アメリカからも爆笑されてるから恥ずかしいんだよな日本野球

781名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nNitf36602023/07/01(土) 09:49:49.42
ボンズの40本ぐらいが薬なしでのトップレベルだとしたら
松井頑張ってたよなあ
793名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Pc3HED3N0
>>781
そう
松井がなぜ、アメリカで尊敬されているかというと薬を使わないでの
成績だから
イチローもそう

ジャッジの60本がなぜMVPかというと、薬を使わない成績だから
まあ、AIを使ってるかもしれないが

783名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kSMR7yc502023/07/01(土) 09:50:03.66
そういや打撃妨害無くなったな
787名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C9FaL/gj02023/07/01(土) 09:50:33.60
オリックスでなければイチローは誕生しなかった

あんな打ち方じゃダメだと多くの人が批判した振り子打法

それを、そのままやらせてくれたオリックスの器の大きさにあったとイチローは話す。
まだまだ子どもだった僕に、やりたいようにやらせてくれる、そんな器がありました。
他の球団だったら間違いなく変えられていたでしょう。
オリックスでなければ、イチローは誕生していませんでした

パリーグは選手を育てるのがうまい

834名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sanVrNDl0
>>787
仰木さんな。トルネード野茂もそう

田口、長谷川シゲトシ、仙人・野村、吉井監督

イチロー野茂以外でも海を渡った門下生が多い

788名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IWQ5xCbV02023/07/01(土) 09:50:40.37
日本も外国人枠撤廃したら?w
790名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAvIZZ6x02023/07/01(土) 09:50:57.70
おいおい日本の首位打者クラスのバッターがメジャーに行ってどんな記録残してきたの?
研究あまりされてない1年目でいい成績残せたの何人いるの?
792名無しさん@恐縮ですID:400qXCsg02023/07/01(土) 09:51:16.06
バレンティンと大谷どっちが凄いかって言ったら、やっぱり大谷かな
794名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nJo2G6Nw02023/07/01(土) 09:51:23.90
日本のバッターはケツナアナに夢中ですよ
796名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BwzcvsvD02023/07/01(土) 09:51:33.05
言いたいことは解らんではない
要するに米国のPは雑魚だと
まぁ、いずれにせよ傍から何言っても無意味だけども
797名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp02023/07/01(土) 09:51:34.65
徳光の

乗ってる

飛行機が

墜落すればいい

799名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9jvsV2QW02023/07/01(土) 09:52:10.33
当たらない馬券外してイラついてたのか
807名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6y5p6WOu0
>>799
チンチンが

小さすぎて

毎日イライラする

徳光

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