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徳光和夫、6月14本塁打の大谷翔平に疑問… 「日本の野球でこれだけの成績を残せるだろうか」「米国の投手は大谷の研究を怠っている」

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951名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hti0f6Dp02023/07/01(土) 10:20:52.88
中居も大の巨人好きで有名だけど中居は野球自体が好きなのが伝わってくるけど
徳光は巨人が好きで野球が好きな訳では無い
長嶋巨人こそ全て世代の老害
957名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lciewqed0
>>951
徳さんは

チンチンが

異常に小さいから

逆恨みして

反日悪口猿に

育ってしまった

952名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WTL7jfpY02023/07/01(土) 10:20:57.22
日本人なんてろくにメジャーで活躍できてねーじゃん
いかに大谷が突然変異だったのかがわかるわ
953名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mqfMFRxB02023/07/01(土) 10:21:25.50
説得力無いなあ
955名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C9FaL/gj02023/07/01(土) 10:21:59.73
958名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6Be4rUK502023/07/01(土) 10:22:50.77
研究して対策プランを立てたところで今の大谷の調子の良さの前じゃほぼ無意味に近い
979名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TN9/c3d/0
>>958
万波が本塁打王なんかのショボいプロリーグなんだし
次のバッターがゴミなんだから四球出してもいいような際どいどころの勝負しかしないよな
調子よくても関係なくね?
959名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WTL7jfpY02023/07/01(土) 10:22:55.95
徳光なんかより大谷のほうが遥かに野球わかってるわ
この爺は無駄に生きてて巨人しか見てねーだけだろ
960名無しさん@恐縮ですID:w1qbhyBy02023/07/01(土) 10:23:06.68
今の大谷の活躍を素直に楽しめないとか可哀想
961ただのとおりすがり(老衰)ID:pUFdW1Bz02023/07/01(土) 10:23:18.72
日本 月間本塁打
バレンティン18本(ヤクルト2013年)

どうして大谷が叩かれてるんだよ笑

962名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FXI4ZluQ02023/07/01(土) 10:24:18.55
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963名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pDdjrDTK02023/07/01(土) 10:24:34.01
大谷は野球好きすぎるから歳とってメジャークビになったら日本に帰ってきてボロボロになるまでやりそう
972名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qqhHQWm70
>>963
カズかよ
966名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vxzGM3+302023/07/01(土) 10:25:10.11
清宮がデビューしたころに
全部変化球投げられて
最悪ファーボールでもいいやって感じで
新人にも容赦なかったけど
メジャーだとそういうのカッコ悪いと思われるんじゃないかね
967名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5NhvFlW902023/07/01(土) 10:25:36.34
メジャーの投手や打者は日本の選手よりもすぐカッとなったりイライラしたりする選手が多いのでは?
だから一回空振りしたりすると頭に血がのぼり冷静になれないから結果が出ない

だからいつも冷静な日本人の大谷が活躍する

975名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9qjJthtN0
>>967
筒香は冷静だろ
968名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9qjJthtN02023/07/01(土) 10:25:37.24
WBC疲れ(笑)で成績が落ちる呑気な競技やきう
大谷にとってオープン戦みたいなもんだったな
969名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G+qkss4u02023/07/01(土) 10:25:54.19
徳光と福留は本当に性格悪いな
970名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7MaakuVv02023/07/01(土) 10:26:01.59
でも日本人選手がメジャー行ったら
ほとんどの場合は日本でやってる時より成績落ちてるだろ
982名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5NhvFlW90
>>970
それは向こうの雰囲気に飲まれてるから緊張して萎縮するから成績が日本より落ちる
992名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7MaakuVv0
>>982
最初は成績残しても尻すぼみみたいな選手が多いからそれは無いわ
986名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qqhHQWm70
>>982
日本のが客入ってね?
971名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WTL7jfpY02023/07/01(土) 10:26:11.05
徳光だけはサカ豚より不快だわ
976名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aLOaZM/G02023/07/01(土) 10:27:12.70
このお爺ちゃんは宗教レベルの巨人至上主義者だからな
松井の記録抜かれたのが許せなくてなんとか大谷の記録を価値下げたいんだろ
985名無しさん@恐縮ですID:un2xYB/D0
>>976
俺もこれかと思う
996名無しさん@恐縮ですID:59FJL5ES0
>>976
イカれてるな
989名無しさん@恐縮ですID:k0EBY5jv0
>>976
こいつは松井がメジャーでただの中距離バッターに成り下がったのはどう考えてるんかね?
991名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fpLgSlwU0
>>976
徳光はビジネス巨人ファン
松井にも巨人にも興味ない反日猿
977名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SUVIVprd02023/07/01(土) 10:27:27.40
野茂の頃から言われている日米の野球レベル
978名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DIcaVErm02023/07/01(土) 10:27:37.97
徳光さん昔ピッチャーだと思ってたら
どうやら坂東さんって方の方らしい
980名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sanVrNDl02023/07/01(土) 10:27:40.36
長谷川シゲトシが似たようなこと言ってた

MLBとNPBは差があるけど、
アメリカと日本だとそうでもない、
トッププレーヤーがドミニカ、ベネズエラ、
キューバ、メヒコなどに分散してるから

981名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WBEEcKF902023/07/01(土) 10:28:19.85
そういや松井さん
アメリカ行ってから急に引っ張りマンになったよね
アレはなんで?
988名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Pc3HED3N0
>>981
当時のメジャーは、みんな薬物で強化人間していたから
生身の松井はそれに対応するしかなかった
984名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9qjJthtN02023/07/01(土) 10:29:12.94
万波が覚醒したのは新庄監督のおかげだろ
身体をシェイプしてキレでホームランを打つ。知らんけど
メジャーでは力負けするけどな
987名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VWBsIWJm02023/07/01(土) 10:29:28.09
メジャーで最後フルボッコにされ晒し者にされた有原がNPBでは圧倒的なピッチングしてるの見るとレベルが違いすぎるよ
993名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nLbLJBCe02023/07/01(土) 10:30:20.16
大谷に対してはもう諦めてる雰囲気があるね
敬遠もかっこわるいし・・

こうなると、夢のホームラン王を日本人が獲得する最大のチャンスかもしれん

日本人
チビ、非力、糞まじめ・・・

そういう昔からのイメージをついに変えてくれるかもしれん

999名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fpLgSlwU0
>>993
それはもともと反日が言ってた嘘だろ
994名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WrZNeyRX02023/07/01(土) 10:30:23.77
徳光の負け惜しみ
995名無しさん@恐縮ですID:M7NCOTIE02023/07/01(土) 10:30:31.43
日本で打者専なら50は打っとるわ
997名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Vm9nXog+02023/07/01(土) 10:30:50.53
愛するチョーさんが当時アメリカに行ってたら3Aどころ2Aだろ
998名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9qjJthtN02023/07/01(土) 10:31:05.21
松井はもとからプルヒッターよ
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