51名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SXo56wL202023/07/01(土) 09:36:43.11
冷静にしっかり殺しに行ってるやん
両親助かる余地ねーわ
殺人でしょ
両親助かる余地ねーわ
殺人でしょ
52名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SCKLNxLF02023/07/01(土) 09:38:40.65
完全に殺ってるね
54名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ouBRQzae02023/07/01(土) 09:41:17.83
はい殺人
55名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ndgG5OSf02023/07/01(土) 09:41:47.73
溺愛してくれた母親を殺すかな･･･
自殺でも殺人でも全く分からない事件だ
自殺でも殺人でも全く分からない事件だ
786名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9tMOPGYT0
>>55
とにかく両親の死に関わったのは事実
とにかく両親の死に関わったのは事実
67名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>55
溺愛されちゃって
47歳にもなって母子密着なのかも
猿「ひとりで死ぬの怖いママ一緒に死んで！」
母「パパを置いていけないわ」
猿「じゃあパパも一緒に、いいね？」
父「んご」
溺愛されちゃって
47歳にもなって母子密着なのかも
猿「ひとりで死ぬの怖いママ一緒に死んで！」
母「パパを置いていけないわ」
猿「じゃあパパも一緒に、いいね？」
父「んご」
412名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZIybii9f0
>>67
溺愛されたことないから、全くイメージ出来ない･･･
溺愛されたことないから、全くイメージ出来ない･･･
356名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yLvzvxuk0
>>55
溺愛されてたらなおさら週刊誌の醜聞は知られたくないんでは？
家族会議なんてしてないと思うな
溺愛されてたらなおさら週刊誌の醜聞は知られたくないんでは？
家族会議なんてしてないと思うな
457名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZIybii9f0
>>356
確かに家族会議がなかったのだと仮定したら、少し分かる事件になってくる
確かに家族会議がなかったのだと仮定したら、少し分かる事件になってくる
56名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xe9HDRyK02023/07/01(土) 09:41:52.87
秒で殺人罪で逮捕やと思うんやけど
そんなスピーディにはいかんのか
そんなスピーディにはいかんのか
57名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jy8ehNoA02023/07/01(土) 09:41:56.43
ビニール捨てて自殺に見せかけたのか？
58名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV02023/07/01(土) 09:41:58.81
薬を溶かしたら水が青くなった
って供述してる
って供述してる
猿「ジュース飲む？ブルーハワイ」
母「まあ美味しそう、お父さんも飲むでしょ」
父「んご」
両親眠くなって床に倒れる
そこでかねて用意のビニール袋と養生テープを
59名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9rnL2dSJ02023/07/01(土) 09:41:58.98
抵抗の形跡が無い程度で自殺認定してそう
忖度なんだよなあ
忖度なんだよなあ
60名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:q6jRWgHO02023/07/01(土) 09:42:22.90
芸能界だから復帰しかねない
さすがにこれを擁護するのはいい加減にしたまえ
さすがにこれを擁護するのはいい加減にしたまえ
61名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HwmMCf7Q02023/07/01(土) 09:43:10.55
親2人って、、、
日本の犯罪史上でも上位ランキングだろこれ、、、
日本の犯罪史上でも上位ランキングだろこれ、、、
73名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>61
両親を金属バットで撲殺した一柳展也てのが居たなあ
両親を金属バットで撲殺した一柳展也てのが居たなあ
99名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MMQqAU8C0
>>73
ドラマ化した事件だわ
ドラマ化した事件だわ
182名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:V5AC6Wnt0
>>73
金属バットに並ぶって凄くね？
お猿さんいきなり殿堂入りだよ
金属バットに並ぶって凄くね？
お猿さんいきなり殿堂入りだよ
62名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9BNKdg/G02023/07/01(土) 09:43:32.08
皆で死のうと言って、両親は睡眠薬飲まされただけで助かって、猿だけ死んでたならわかる
逆な上に証拠隠滅までしてんだよねえ
逆な上に証拠隠滅までしてんだよねえ
64名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 09:44:52.66
>>004
じゃあ無理かもね。
だって父親はすぐに死ななかったから確実性は乏しい。
じゃあ無理かもね。
だって父親はすぐに死ななかったから確実性は乏しい。
65名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QIpiOpiB02023/07/01(土) 09:45:28.16
どこが自殺ほう助なんだよ
66名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RcaZ4+2P02023/07/01(土) 09:45:34.89
自分もほんとに死ぬ気だったらゴミとかわざわざ捨てないよね
68名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hqXUMQns02023/07/01(土) 09:46:07.50
殺人では？
69名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8z0spKCC02023/07/01(土) 09:46:19.96
自殺幇助？これって普通に殺しなんじゃないの？
70名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9Q97Bm9L02023/07/01(土) 09:46:35.73
これ窒息させようとしたってことで下手すると殺人にならない？
死因ではないとしても殺人未遂にもなりそうな気が
死因ではないとしても殺人未遂にもなりそうな気が
71名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 09:47:15.44
>>023
でも蕎麦を食べてるしね。
すすって食べるから薬くらい普通に飲めそう。
でも蕎麦を食べてるしね。
すすって食べるから薬くらい普通に飲めそう。
72名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8CB+QKxW02023/07/01(土) 09:47:16.24
梨園ていいな
黙ってても忖度されて
黙ってても忖度されて
74名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ijRvCCfs02023/07/01(土) 09:48:15.67
浦川さん、ナジャさん、今日は今歌舞伎界で話題のみんな大好き超便利養生テープのご紹介です
75名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nhb1CzrN02023/07/01(土) 09:48:49.43
自殺サイトには睡眠薬とビニール袋で窒息死とか載ってないだろ
どこで見つけたんだろ
痕跡を残さない方法として自分で発案したなら立派なサイコパスだな
どこで見つけたんだろ
痕跡を残さない方法として自分で発案したなら立派なサイコパスだな
96名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WcjXQmRz0
>>75
名古屋の嘱託殺人マネたんだろう
睡眠薬＋袋＋ビニールで一緒
名古屋の嘱託殺人マネたんだろう
睡眠薬＋袋＋ビニールで一緒
地検によると、渡辺容疑者は今月5～6日、名古屋市中区のホテルで被害者の女性の自殺を手伝うために事前に準備していた睡眠薬と酒を飲ませた。その後、女性から依頼を受けた鈴木容疑者と少女は、頭に袋をかぶせ、袋の上からビニールテープを首に巻くなどして窒息死させたとされる。
82名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:B0Gl6qUh0
>>75
自殺（しても死なない）方法を
探したのかも
自殺（しても死なない）方法を
探したのかも
720名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oSeRqZwZ0
>>82
うわあ…めっちゃありえそう
うわあ…めっちゃありえそう
両親をどうにかする手はずはすでに準備済みで、
あとは自分用にゆるめの方法調べてたパターンか
390名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RbanMhkZ0
>>75
歌舞伎の演目にあったりして
ビニールじゃなくて麻袋とか
歌舞伎の演目にあったりして
ビニールじゃなくて麻袋とか
393名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>390
麻袋は通気性良さそうだなあw
麻袋は通気性良さそうだなあw
402名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fKEuxQS40
>>390
和紙に水含ませて顔に貼るのは必殺仕事人で見た
和紙に水含ませて顔に貼るのは必殺仕事人で見た
135名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mb96RQub0
>>75
ビニール袋をかぶって自殺と言えば・・・プチエンジェル
今回の事件の背後もジャニーの少年への性被害発覚で猿が慌てて・・・
ビニール袋をかぶって自殺と言えば・・・プチエンジェル
今回の事件の背後もジャニーの少年への性被害発覚で猿が慌てて・・・
810名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QgUQvtG20
>>75
薬物とビニール袋の併用は自殺界では有名な方法らしく検索すれば出てくるよ
猿之助が一家心中図るずっと前からメンヘル板では話題になってて専用スレもあった
薬物とビニール袋の併用は自殺界では有名な方法らしく検索すれば出てくるよ
猿之助が一家心中図るずっと前からメンヘル板では話題になってて専用スレもあった
76名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4RUvP8nS02023/07/01(土) 09:50:51.02
溺愛というか甘やかされ続けたこどおじだから両親は僕のためにシヌの当たり前くらいに思ってそう
今のところ自責の念とか感じない
今のところ自責の念とか感じない
77名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:haB7ip5602023/07/01(土) 09:51:07.44
正直恵まれた環境だよな
金も職も困ることない人生だし
金も職も困ることない人生だし
78名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 09:51:16.18
全部事実なのかも。
警察が調べた事実。
猿之助が語る事実と心中理由。
本人が自白してるのに支離滅裂で整合性なし。
つまり総合的に考えると、他人が関与して殺されてるということなのかも。
他人様の意思と利益で起きた事件だから、登場人物が足りない。
81名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>78
遺産を譲ると名指しされた誰かさん？
遺産を譲ると名指しされた誰かさん？
92名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RitFnuU10
>>81
誰か登場すると警察が調べた事実で理解できるのかも。
暗殺者にやられたのか、脅迫されて心中したのかわからないけど。
お家騒動で乗っ取りか、性加害での口封じの脅迫とか。
後者なら両親を巻き込み必要はないから、脅しで殺したのかも。
誰か登場すると警察が調べた事実で理解できるのかも。
暗殺者にやられたのか、脅迫されて心中したのかわからないけど。
お家騒動で乗っ取りか、性加害での口封じの脅迫とか。
後者なら両親を巻き込み必要はないから、脅しで殺したのかも。
79名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eJbNiSTA02023/07/01(土) 09:51:22.70
もう別に本人も今更罪から逃れようとも思ってないだろ
もう悟ってるだろ色々
もう悟ってるだろ色々
80名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:b8ExIHTk02023/07/01(土) 09:51:59.45
窒息死させたわけだろう。殺人じゃね？！
これで執行猶予ならみんなこのやり方で殺人をしたらいいじゃん、って流れになるよ。
これで執行猶予ならみんなこのやり方で殺人をしたらいいじゃん、って流れになるよ。
83名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DCNnd4mr02023/07/01(土) 09:53:23.97
これ殺人じゃなくて自殺幇助で済んだら日本終わりやな
殺し方のお手本やわ
殺し方のお手本やわ
84名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QNaZuC0l02023/07/01(土) 09:53:45.87
上級国民でなければ殺人罪で逮捕だろ
85名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kSMR7yc502023/07/01(土) 09:53:55.72
ん？自分には養生しなかったの？
86名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XuhEWcz302023/07/01(土) 09:54:43.29
殺人だとしたら動機が謎じゃね
87名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uVpP2fgs02023/07/01(土) 09:54:44.28
長年の介護で心身共に疲れ果てた末の、だったらまだ分からんでもないけどこれはちょっとねぇ
89名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XLkujbHO02023/07/01(土) 09:55:27.60
大抵信者みたいなバカが湧くものだが、これだけ擁護が少ない有名人も珍しいなw
まあそれだけのことやってるってことか
まあそれだけのことやってるってことか
90名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QlF2H4hl02023/07/01(土) 09:55:35.91
自分も後を追うならば証拠隠滅の必要性がないだろ
自分だけちょうどいい量を調整したとしか思えんやろ
91名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Qea3uvtm02023/07/01(土) 09:55:51.57
詫びろ
94名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7TGaj94d02023/07/01(土) 09:56:21.43
とどめを刺す行為がほう助？なんだこれは
95名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Zjjiu0t902023/07/01(土) 09:57:01.11
錠剤を砕いたり、そばに混ぜたり、両親を並んで横たわらせたり、袋かぶせたり、ゴミ捨てに行ったり、自分も自殺のふりしたり
この人、薬物か何かで頭がおかしくなってるんじゃない？
この人、薬物か何かで頭がおかしくなってるんじゃない？
97名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ASrKP7sa02023/07/01(土) 09:57:30.77
ビニールをかけただけでもショックだったのに。
いやーつらたん
いやーつらたん
98名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4RUvP8nS02023/07/01(土) 09:58:14.56
薬までは計画してだけどビニールとかゴミ捨てとかは行き当たりばったりっぽく無い？確実にしとめる強い意志は感じられるけど
自分の番でくびつり日和ってるのもなんつーか無計画というか
薬でみんな逝けるつもりだったけど無理だから咄嗟に色々工作した結果のような
自分の番でくびつり日和ってるのもなんつーか無計画というか
薬でみんな逝けるつもりだったけど無理だから咄嗟に色々工作した結果のような
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