451名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RyXVW6TX02023/07/01(土) 12:06:39.85
関西の人は知らんかもしれないけど東京のそばやうどんは汁が黒いんだよ
452名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 12:06:39.92
夕食が麺類だったのは、単に食べる時間が遅かったからでは。
夜の8時だったようだから。
何で両親に食事を作る暇もなかったのか謎だけど。
夜の8時だったようだから。
何で両親に食事を作る暇もなかったのか謎だけど。
459名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hIgmOruF0
>>452
父親は病気だし、母親は介護疲れに加え、今回のことを聞いて落ち込んでいた。それで消化のいいうどんなんじゃないの？最初は蕎麦と伝えていたが
父親は病気だし、母親は介護疲れに加え、今回のことを聞いて落ち込んでいた。それで消化のいいうどんなんじゃないの？最初は蕎麦と伝えていたが
453名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HJbVP43G02023/07/01(土) 12:06:41.18
はやまりすぎだろ たいしたゴシップじゃねえ
454名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OkWzcQ2K02023/07/01(土) 12:06:49.73
親の頭にビニール袋をかぶせてテープでとめて殺しても殺人にならないんだな。
456名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Xz+Y6nhN02023/07/01(土) 12:08:45.98
この態様だと幇助というよりは嘱託なのでは
どっちでもあんま変わらないけど
どっちでもあんま変わらないけど
458名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JLtY2yfl02023/07/01(土) 12:09:00.13
なぜビニール袋をかぶせたの？
461名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3GNu8aT002023/07/01(土) 12:10:37.71
文春殺人雑誌？
462名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MPOb2oA402023/07/01(土) 12:12:24.86
猿之助にとって母親は永遠に怖い存在らしい
週刊誌見られる前にやっちまおうとしたのかもねー
週刊誌見られる前にやっちまおうとしたのかもねー
実の母にビニール袋をかぶせ、命を絶つ手助けをする。息子としての猿之助容疑者の胸中はどのようなものだったのかーー。母の延子さんはとても愛情深い人だったという。
「一人息子である猿之助さんを”カメちゃん”と呼んで溺愛していました。梨園の妻としてもよく気をまわし、評判はとてもよかったです。歌舞伎に対し誇りを持っていたのでしょう」（歌舞伎関係者）
同時に、とても厳しい人だったという。猿之助は過去のインタビューで、母の鋭い指導をこう振り返っている。
《踊りで体の使い方を間違えるとそれは恐ろしいことになる。足の割り方が悪いとバーン！》《バーン！は日によって物差しでありセンスであり革のベルトになる》《舞台の批評が一番怖い。「何だ、アレは！」。この一言で終わり。居ないときでもどっかで見られているような気がする。母は永遠に怖い》（’05年7月20日「スポーツニッポン」）
467名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>462
へー
母ちゃんが踊りの稽古つけてたんか
へー
母ちゃんが踊りの稽古つけてたんか
母ちゃんに怒られるのが何よりも辛かったのかな亀ちゃん
483名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sA8aAzM40
>>462
母親にゲイだとバレたらそれこそ殺されそうだなw
母親にゲイだとバレたらそれこそ殺されそうだなw
494名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hIgmOruF0
>>483
知っていたと思うけどな
この年齢で女の気配がなければ
だから香川が息子と共に戻ったんじゃないの？
知っていたと思うけどな
この年齢で女の気配がなければ
だから香川が息子と共に戻ったんじゃないの？
503名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:P2KxbPml0
>>494
そう思ってたけど
子供が出来ても直系からさらに離れるし歌舞伎自体が先細りだから自分で終わりにしたい
結婚はいつかこの人と思える人がいたらするかもね
とかキレイな事言ってそうな気もしてきた
そう思ってたけど
子供が出来ても直系からさらに離れるし歌舞伎自体が先細りだから自分で終わりにしたい
結婚はいつかこの人と思える人がいたらするかもね
とかキレイな事言ってそうな気もしてきた
465名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aOiP9wRb02023/07/01(土) 12:14:42.45
これ半分殺人だろ
469名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QNKUjkk/0
>>465
いや100パー
いや100パー
466名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nhb1CzrN02023/07/01(土) 12:15:51.15
睡眠薬飲ませてビニール袋で窒息死
養生テープの粘着剤を肌に付けなければ証拠は残らないが
海外ドラマだと近所のゴミ回収箱でビニール袋が見つかり殺人で捕まる
養生テープの粘着剤を肌に付けなければ証拠は残らないが
海外ドラマだと近所のゴミ回収箱でビニール袋が見つかり殺人で捕まる
471名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sKdsIxGT02023/07/01(土) 12:17:12.73
あきらかに殺人 （ しかも昔で言うならいわゆる『尊属殺人』
なのに『刑法第39条「1.心神喪失者の行為は、罰しない。2.心神耗弱者の行為は、その刑を減軽する」』
なわけだろ？ 有名人は犯罪犯してもヘタすりゃ無罪になる。不思議だなぁ ｗ
473名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:m4ERKj6A02023/07/01(土) 12:19:43.91
どう見ても確実に執行するためですよねこれ
474名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eZkvBTMq02023/07/01(土) 12:20:02.47
もう殺人じゃん
477名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eZkvBTMq02023/07/01(土) 12:21:24.57
皆で死ぬなら大量に薬飲んで死ねばええだけやん
479名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:U42yJzjJ02023/07/01(土) 12:22:17.52
岸辺露伴まで配信停止かよ
見といてよかった
見といてよかった
480名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KruN+4En02023/07/01(土) 12:22:22.58
まあ法的にはどうなるか知らんけど
あの世があるとすれば間違いなく地獄行きだな
あの世があるとすれば間違いなく地獄行きだな
481名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ERR9SKZS02023/07/01(土) 12:22:24.64
自分が死ぬ前にゴミなんて捨てるかよ
完全犯罪狙っただろコイツ
完全犯罪狙っただろコイツ
484名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:m4ERKj6A0
>>481
綺麗好きなんだよ
綺麗好きなんだよ
482名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Xynm+98702023/07/01(土) 12:22:57.72
これ殺人にならなかったら殺人者のほとんどが自殺幇助と言い出すわ
まあ適用されるのは上級にかぎるけど
まあ適用されるのは上級にかぎるけど
485名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IApN26Kn02023/07/01(土) 12:24:31.92
死因ほんとに薬物中毒なのか？不自然すぎる。
487名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YpHVK9OU02023/07/01(土) 12:25:09.86
居た堪れないわ
生き残ったことが苦痛だろうに
生き残ったことが苦痛だろうに
488名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fhw2jkKO02023/07/01(土) 12:26:35.45
作品に罪はないとかほざいてるアホいるけどそれ不倫や大麻レベルの話で殺人に切り替わったら話は別だからな
しかも両親とかありえない
こんな前代未聞な事件は芸能史ではダントツで極悪
しかも両親とかありえない
こんな前代未聞な事件は芸能史ではダントツで極悪
496名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:m4ERKj6A0
>>488
まあ歌舞伎界の鉄壁ガードでうやむやにされて終わりな気がする
「かわいそうな猿之助さん」
まあ歌舞伎界の鉄壁ガードでうやむやにされて終わりな気がする
「かわいそうな猿之助さん」
491名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2/km9iEC02023/07/01(土) 12:27:27.05
溺愛して実の息子に変なコロされ方して
両親とも浮かばれないね
両親とも浮かばれないね
492名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pl1XKHUc02023/07/01(土) 12:28:00.55
死にたくて前日徹夜して酒飲みまくって真冬のベランダで横になって眠るように凍死狙ったのに次の日ほかほかあったか布団でさわやかに目が覚めた
部屋に戻った記憶は全くなくて無意識にめちゃくちゃ生きようとしてるなぁと
首吊った事もあるけど気絶には成功したけどすぐ目覚めてその瞬間は死のうとした事も忘れてとにかく苦しいからもがいて紐千切れて失敗
無意識下で生きようとする才能がすごいからこいつと生きるしかないのかと悟りました
まぁ本気なら電車に飛び込んだり崖から落ちるほうが確実だしそれを選んでない時点で死ぬ勇気がないんだろうな
部屋に戻った記憶は全くなくて無意識にめちゃくちゃ生きようとしてるなぁと
首吊った事もあるけど気絶には成功したけどすぐ目覚めてその瞬間は死のうとした事も忘れてとにかく苦しいからもがいて紐千切れて失敗
無意識下で生きようとする才能がすごいからこいつと生きるしかないのかと悟りました
まぁ本気なら電車に飛び込んだり崖から落ちるほうが確実だしそれを選んでない時点で死ぬ勇気がないんだろうな
493名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Xynm+98702023/07/01(土) 12:28:11.05
これ何気に芸能界トップの凶悪犯罪じゃね？
495名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fhw2jkKO02023/07/01(土) 12:28:54.00
殺人犯になったらこいつが過去に出てた作品は再放送はもちろん、配信も無理だよ
それだけでもかなりの損害が出るからこそ忖度されそうだけど
それだけでもかなりの損害が出るからこそ忖度されそうだけど
525名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VNojcXel0
>>495
地上波は無理にしても配信や映画は良いと思うがな
でもその収益が猿之助に入るとなると複雑な気持ちにはなるが
地上波は無理にしても配信や映画は良いと思うがな
でもその収益が猿之助に入るとなると複雑な気持ちにはなるが
537名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fhw2jkKO0
>>525
さすがに殺人になったらダメでしょ
罪のレベルとか以前に人間として一番やっちゃいけない行為なんだから
さすがに殺人になったらダメでしょ
罪のレベルとか以前に人間として一番やっちゃいけない行為なんだから
545名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VNojcXel0
>>537
人それぞれだけど絶対見れない人がいるのはわかる
なので出てるとわかっててなおみたい人だけが見るなら良いかなと
罪のない人の努力や熱意の方がたくさん込められてる訳だし
ただ罪人に利益がいかないような仕組みにしてそれを明示して欲しい
人それぞれだけど絶対見れない人がいるのはわかる
なので出てるとわかっててなおみたい人だけが見るなら良いかなと
罪のない人の努力や熱意の方がたくさん込められてる訳だし
ただ罪人に利益がいかないような仕組みにしてそれを明示して欲しい
509名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:41Q5Y55w0
>>495
殺人罪に問われたとしても出演作を封印する必要は無いと思うけどな
死刑囚が死刑囚であることを売りにして本を出して印税稼いでる世の中なんだし
殺人罪に問われたとしても出演作を封印する必要は無いと思うけどな
死刑囚が死刑囚であることを売りにして本を出して印税稼いでる世の中なんだし
516名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fhw2jkKO0
>>509
それとこれは別だよ
ドラマや映画はエンタメだもん
麻原が極中から本を出したりオウムのニュースを報道するのは自由だけど麻原が過去に出てたとんねるずの番組のバラエティを再放送するのは無理
それとこれは別だよ
ドラマや映画はエンタメだもん
麻原が極中から本を出したりオウムのニュースを報道するのは自由だけど麻原が過去に出てたとんねるずの番組のバラエティを再放送するのは無理
497名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ziUK5P1i02023/07/01(土) 12:30:38.19
一般人ならとっくに殺人罪
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