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「両親にかけたビニール袋を養生テープでとめた」市川猿之助容疑者 新たな供述 空気が漏れないようにするためか

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100名無しさん@恐縮ですID:237fdasp02023/07/01(土) 09:58:20.66
ガチヘコー
101名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5ro+dlRg02023/07/01(土) 09:58:23.95
被せたビニール袋も取ったみたいやね。

どう見ても殺人です、本当にありがとうございました。

125名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>101
息の根が止まるのを見届けてビニール袋を外してゴミとして始末
冷静ですな
103名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NO14mtLL02023/07/01(土) 09:59:42.58
単なる親殺しってこと?
104名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 10:00:03.32
薬物を混ぜるのに蕎麦はないと思う。
蕎麦自体に薬物を混ぜるのは面倒だから。
報道直前で精神負担が大きい時に手打ち蕎麦とか冗談みたいな食事だし。
酢の物とか佃煮に混ぜた方が簡単確実。
116名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9Q97Bm9L0
>>104
粉にしてるからそば粉と一緒にこねればいいんじゃね?
お湯で溶けるのかな?
202名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fTv2c+tX0
>>116
関東のうどん汁ってかなり濃いんでしょ?
誤魔化せたのかも
464名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vz3tevwW0
>>202
カレーうどん!?
126名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>116
青くなるぞ
140名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9Q97Bm9L0
>>126
その色が入ってない古いタイプとかを用意できるルートがあったりしてなぁ
だから錠剤の残りやら残留物を一切合切捨てたのとかね
150名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2r0dP4fg0
>>126
日本で普通に手に入るものならだろ。
薬の入れ物は処分済みだからな。
普通は手に入らないものを使った可能性もある。
155名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>150
個人輸入もできるからね
109名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RH6qR8Sw0
>>104
蕎麦は誤報でうどんだったらしいぞ
105名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JJdByK+U02023/07/01(土) 10:00:34.67
これやってんな
106名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/wa7Rhex02023/07/01(土) 10:01:30.22
立派な殺人者じゃん
107名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xR7d3cSy02023/07/01(土) 10:01:45.90
自分はビニール袋を被った状態で発見されたの?
被ってないなら自分は確実に死ぬという気持ちがなく助かる可能性が一定程度高い事も想定した行動かも
108名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XLkujbHO02023/07/01(土) 10:01:57.80
何でこんなに緩いのよw 同じ事件多発するよ。公序良俗の為に良くないよ
警察の腐ってないほうの人頑張ってw
110名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9Q97Bm9L02023/07/01(土) 10:02:02.70
猿之助とかの名前ってその一族にしか継がせないんだよなぁ
このあと香川さんが継ぐの?
111名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DCNnd4mr02023/07/01(土) 10:02:08.95
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/2175173417cbbb7ed24651cd128d363985e4194c?page=1
5月18日朝7時ごろ、猿之助は松竹に「舞台を休む」と連絡を入れる。

そして午前10時過ぎ、猿之助の運転手も務める40代の男性マネージャーと、60代の女性マネージャーが自宅の半地下にあるクローゼット内で彼を発見したのだが、

「不可解なのは、自宅の玄関の鍵がかかっていなかったこと。本当に自殺する気があるならば、扉の鍵はかけてコトに及ぶはずです。つまり、発見されるのを自ら望んでいたフシがある。そもそも舞台に穴を空けると連絡したのが当日の朝であった点もまた、見方によっては男性マネージャーらに助けを求めたようにも取れます」(前出・社会部デスク)

ゴミ捨てたり鍵かけなかったり絶対死ぬ気ない

113名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3mB+mwOp02023/07/01(土) 10:03:01.31
殺人で再逮捕されるできっと。
これで殺してないは無理がある
114名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/wa7Rhex02023/07/01(土) 10:03:42.05
ホモであることを母親から責められてイヤになり計画殺人を考えたのではないか
115名無しさん@恐縮ですID:s8tMCCVz02023/07/01(土) 10:03:47.89
まだ夢の中なんだろなwwwwww
117名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FCF/0c6902023/07/01(土) 10:04:09.77
供述を全て信じて想定してみる。
母親は息子のスキャンダルと介護疲れで死ぬ決意をする。パジャマ姿のまま遺書も残さず、リビングで息子に渡された青い水を飲む。後の処理はよろしくと。
無責任すぎるだろ。
134名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SuQbCqRM0
>>117
息子に「俺の為に死んでくれ」って言われたんじゃ無いかなぁ?
猿之助のおやが週刊誌報道苦にジサツしたらその後叩きにくくなるじゃん
割と早くに復帰も出来そうじゃん
ただし大量の薬飲ませたのに息がいつまでもあるからビニール被せたのは咄嗟で誤算だったんじゃないか?だから慌てて証拠隠滅したんちゃうかな
158名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qC3EtcgV0
>>134
大量じゃなくて10錠らしいよ
眠ったところにポリ袋を被せてテープでとめて窒息死
206名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fTv2c+tX0
>>158
いつも謎だけど検視が窒息死じゃないこと
たった10錠の睡眠導入剤で薬物死みたいな好評おかしい
死後すぐに複雑な死因じゃないのに
118名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VLGcFHey02023/07/01(土) 10:04:39.87
歌舞伎界(日本俳優協会・伝統歌舞伎保存会)・角界(日本相撲協会)は日本の伝統芸能
という理由で、税制上の優遇措置を受けています
しかし、昨今の騒動や関係者の皆様方の言動を見ていると、この税収不足・経済格差拡大の
一途を辿っている日本に於いて、一部の業界団体だけに厚遇措置を与えることは、
非常に不公平だと思います

歌舞伎界・角界の税制上の優遇措置を停止すべきかどうか、有権者・納税者による国民投票を
実施すべきだと思います
最高裁判所の裁判官の国民審査の様に、次回の国政選挙の際に同時に有権者の方達に
投票をしてもらえばいいと思います
この投票方式を採用することにより、国民投票の実施費用を抑制することが可能になるでしょう
《歌舞伎界(伝統歌舞伎保存会)・角界(日本相撲協会)の公益法人認定を取り消すべき》or
《歌舞伎界(伝統歌舞伎保存会)・角界(日本相撲協会)の公益法人認定を今後も許可すべき》
このどちらかに丸印を付けて、選んでもらえばいいと思います

ある団体が、公益に適う・国益に値する組織かどうかの判断を、確実に全国民が納得する形で下せる
人間が、この世に果たして存在するのでしょうか?
その団体が社団法人であろうと財団法人であろうと、各公益法人が国民の心身向上に寄与しているか
どうかなんて、各個人によって意見や判断が異なるのは当然です
いつかこの国に住む、全ての国民の意見が完全に一致する日など、絶対に来ないでしょう
そもそも、大の大人が少し人の意見を聞いたくらいで、考え方が180度変わるはずが無いのです
だからこそ、納税者・有権者による多数決で決めるべきだと私は思います

120名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VLGcFHey02023/07/01(土) 10:04:55.54
日本相撲協会(角界)や日本俳優協会(歌舞伎界)の税制上の優遇措置を取り消した結果、
両業界が廃業したとしましょう
人はこれを『自然淘汰』と呼ぶでしょう
ただ単に、人々に求められていなかっただけだと思います
民間企業が倒産しているケースと、一体何が違うのでしょうか?
日本は税収だけでは無くて、人手も不足しております
関係者の皆様方は、介護でも宅配でも小売りでも農業でも林業でも、お好きな業界に再就職して
いただければいいのです

これはあくまでも余談ですが・・・
日本相撲協会には元東京高検検事長・元警視総監が、天下っております
税金から給料を受け取って来た元役人の方が、税制上の優遇措置を受けている公益法人に
再就職されております
自民党には有志議員でつくる、日本歌舞伎振議員連盟という組織があるそうです

『歌舞伎界・角界の公益法人認定を取り消すべきです』という私の考えに、皆様も賛同してくださいとは
一切言っておりません
『国民投票を実施して、有権者・納税者による多数決で決めましょう』と提言しているだけです
皆様は皆様の信念に基づいて、発言・行動・投票をしていただければいいのです

直接民主制の話になると、憲法96条の事を仰る方が現れますが・・・
どうして、今ある法律や憲法・制度がすべて正しくて、未来永劫変える必要が無いと言えるのでしょうか?
これらは有史以前から存在していた、絶対的なものでは無いはずです
時代や人々の意識の変化に応じて、その都度変えていけばいいのです

122名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qC3EtcgV02023/07/01(土) 10:05:57.06
眠剤10錠しか服用していないのに薬物中毒死はおかしい
211名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9BNKdg/G0
>>122
そんな危険なものを売ってる薬メーカーを取り締まらないとね
123名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5pRBHqME02023/07/01(土) 10:06:33.51
そもそも家族会議が猿之助の脳内でやっただけなんじゃないかと思える
124名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MYBS2gyu02023/07/01(土) 10:07:13.64
殺り方をネットで調べて2人殺した後にしっかり証拠隠滅して誰かに発見してもらう直前に首吊って待ってるという冷静な計画的犯行
127名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mBopSdpb02023/07/01(土) 10:08:25.12
殺人事件だろ
128名無しさん@恐縮ですID:W8TZC1W602023/07/01(土) 10:08:25.67
明確な◯意ですね
129名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wrYNVnxi02023/07/01(土) 10:09:06.60
母親は頭に傷があったらしいけど、苦しみもがいている時に爪で傷ついたんだろうな
そして動かなくなったのを確認してからビニール袋を捨てた猿
137名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SuQbCqRM0
>>129
無表情で眺めている猿之助が目に浮かんでしまった
130名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qC3EtcgV02023/07/01(土) 10:09:18.95
普通に窒息死でしょ
131名無しさん@恐縮ですID:y/KbT5O+02023/07/01(土) 10:09:44.80
パジャマを着たならベッドで寝るつもりだったわけだよね
132名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bmancS7i02023/07/01(土) 10:10:04.84
大体一度死のうとした奴が黙秘(情報を小出しに)してんじゃねーよ
てめえの人生を諦めたのなら潔く全て白状できるだろうが
133名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qHq4FvWR02023/07/01(土) 10:10:12.37
死んだの確認して被せたビニール袋を捨てたとか、証拠隠滅をしようとした時点で普通の自殺には見えんな。

再逮捕やろなぁ。

136名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 10:11:33.86
そもそもビニールなどの証拠が必要な事実がない。
死因は薬物死だから。
だからテープで巻いても窒息死させたという証拠にはならない。

薬物死だけど殺意を証明したいからでてきた証言。

138名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OpnV2enZ02023/07/01(土) 10:12:18.64
明確な殺意
139名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7BjcEc6D02023/07/01(土) 10:12:20.34
雑誌にスタッフに対するセクハラすっぱ抜かれた
のがそもそもの発端なんだけどドミノ倒しみたいに
どんどん悪い方に転落していっちゃったな
もうお家断絶だろうな
188名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2SL/JWri0
>>139
ローティーンの子供にセクハラしてたって話が本当だとしたら完全にアウトだな
192名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9Q97Bm9L0
>>188
そうなんだジャニさんしていたのか
それは凶悪だな
143名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OpnV2enZ0
>>139
要するに身から出た錆やな
141名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8BxFfivI02023/07/01(土) 10:12:34.02
これから自分も死のうとしてるのになんで隠滅したんだよ
145名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FYDsM7Gb0
>>141
死ぬ気あったのかなあ
154名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OpnV2enZ0
>>145
跡取りなんとかしろと
口煩い両親をなんとかしたかったんやろ
地位あって老人ホーム行きも拒否だろうし
142名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OIjdnLD/02023/07/01(土) 10:12:39.65
万が一にも蘇生することが無いように滅茶苦茶念入りだよな
それでいて自分はちょこっと睡眠薬飲んだだけなんだろ?
144名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV02023/07/01(土) 10:13:06.74
猿「うどん打ったよ、パパママ食べて」
母「まあ今日は青いうどんなのね」
猿「うん、特製だよ」
146名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OpnV2enZ0
>>144
実際そんな青くなるもんなんか?
167名無しさん@恐縮ですID:k11LdiSe0
>>146
食品添加物の青色1号が入ってるな
駄菓子屋ジュースとか入浴剤みたいな色になるだろうね
176名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OpnV2enZ0
>>167
今日はねるねるねるね入りのうどんだよー
とか言えば通じたかな
青いお菓子ってなんかあるかなもっと自然な奴
184名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WcjXQmRz0
>>176
食後にブルーカクテル
186名無しさん@恐縮ですID:k11LdiSe0
>>176
かき氷シロップとか
379名無しさん@恐縮ですID:i8jwBcn40
>>176
地球グミ
287名無しさん@恐縮ですID:b4WioL3k0
>>176
この間テレビで青いスープのラーメンやってたわ
851名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wFTW8sTX0
>>287
>>295
https://instagram.com/kipposhi21?igshid=Y2I2MzMwZWM3ZA==
ブラウザーをアップデートしてください
295名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OpnV2enZ0
>>287
怖w
851名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wFTW8sTX0
>>287
>>295
https://instagram.com/kipposhi21?igshid=Y2I2MzMwZWM3ZA==
ブラウザーをアップデートしてください
147名無しさん@恐縮ですID:z3gygP6R02023/07/01(土) 10:13:37.20
そもそも親が死ぬ意味がほんと分からん
自殺にしろ猿之助がやったにしろ
148名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HnLoC33F02023/07/01(土) 10:13:38.29
「俺の不倫がバレて家族会議したら嫁が死にたいと言うので睡眠薬を飲みやすくすり潰して水に混ぜて飲ませました。確実に死ねるように袋を被せて養成テープで止めました」
「親も死にたいと言うので以下同文」
これで減刑されて執行猶予がつくかもしれないのか
死刑回避の裏技かこれは
201名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yDxjbi350
>>148
ワイの不倫がバレたときの家族会議では
定期預金解約(50万)して嫁がバックとかに散財する事になったな
164名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2MzGO+Wq0
>>148
家族会議、本当にしたんだろうか?
親の遺書が残っていて然るべきだろうに。
週刊誌に出てしまうから
親バレと親に怒られるのが嫌で
薬飲ませて眠らせて
やる事にしたようにしか思えない。
172名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OpnV2enZ0
>>164
それなー
親たちが本当に知って悲観してのことなのかどうか
非常に怪しい

そんな加害者側の証言を
そのまま信じるのはまさに死人に口なし

181名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AxMvdHSO0
>>164
親が知らなかったとは思えないけど
185名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9Q97Bm9L0
>>181
セクハラパワハラをしてるのは業界の常識って認識で
パパのやっていたよってかんじで問題視してなかったけど
週刊誌に出ることはしらなかったかもね
189名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>181
同性愛者なのは知ってたろうが
立場を利用してのエグいパワハラや
年少者への強制わいせつまでは知らなかったかも
205名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2MzGO+Wq0
>>189
それを知ってたんだろうか?
親にこそ知られたくない事ってあって
それを親に隠し通すためにってのは
ありえそうな気がしてるけど。
159名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WcjXQmRz0
>>148
一般人は嘱託殺人もしくは殺人罪で実刑です
逮捕送検時の目隠しカーテンやテントも用意さてずマスコミに晒されます
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