350名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tap55SNr02023/07/01(土) 11:32:21.97
実際どうかはわからんけど、報道されている情報からの心証だと
自殺幇助とは違うと感じる
自殺と考えるには腑に落ちない点が多すぎる
自殺幇助とは違うと感じる
自殺と考えるには腑に落ちない点が多すぎる
351名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RbanMhkZ02023/07/01(土) 11:32:35.66
海外ドラマのホラーみたいにビニール被った両親の幽霊が出そう
352名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GGq4HEV702023/07/01(土) 11:32:42.26
猿之助の供述と抵抗した形跡が無い事を根拠にご両親は「自殺の意思があった」とされる事も解せない
警察には説明を求める！
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353名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 11:33:18.36
警察に圧力をかけるのに、なんで週刊誌にはかけなかったのかね？
358名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nhb1CzrN02023/07/01(土) 11:34:58.93
睡眠薬では死に切らないから首を絞めたなら殺人罪だろ
ビニール袋で窒息死させたから自殺幇助とか警察は頭おかしい
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360名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Rmdomphg02023/07/01(土) 11:35:18.45
確実に殺しにいってて、自分は薬飲んでグッスリおやすみして
証拠隠滅を計り、それで一家心中しようと思いましたって？
単なる殺人、親殺しだよ。
証拠隠滅を計り、それで一家心中しようと思いましたって？
単なる殺人、親殺しだよ。
361名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:odqABf1002023/07/01(土) 11:35:27.61
殺人ではないの
362名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ee2G3zc602023/07/01(土) 11:35:34.88
殺人か…
363名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RbanMhkZ02023/07/01(土) 11:35:39.30
複数回に分けて捨てるほど大量の薬を飲ませたってこと？どうやったんだろ
364名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/1hg5odt02023/07/01(土) 11:35:53.98
「伝統だから」の一点で保護されてる
皆思考停止でまさに日本的
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365名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ee2G3zc602023/07/01(土) 11:36:03.01
2人殺人したから死刑か
366名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:x65hPU6+02023/07/01(土) 11:36:03.35
普通に考えれば
両親が寝間着に着替えていたと考えれば、夜に睡眠薬いるの飲み物を両親に飲ませ
両親がもうそう簡単に起きないのを見計らい、用意しておいたビニールとテープで息をできないようにした
亡くなったのを見計らい、証拠であるビニールは処分しゴミ捨て場に置き、睡眠薬で亡くなったってことにしようとした
自分は睡眠薬を少し飲んで偽装工作
両親が寝間着に着替えていたと考えれば、夜に睡眠薬いるの飲み物を両親に飲ませ
両親がもうそう簡単に起きないのを見計らい、用意しておいたビニールとテープで息をできないようにした
亡くなったのを見計らい、証拠であるビニールは処分しゴミ捨て場に置き、睡眠薬で亡くなったってことにしようとした
自分は睡眠薬を少し飲んで偽装工作
369名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fpa+GmTV0
>>366
リビングの床に寝てたのは？
リビングの床に寝てたのは？
367名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 11:36:20.98
両親が他殺ってことは、猿之助以外が殺した可能性もあるということ。
脅迫されて猿之助が殺した可能性もあるし。
脅迫されて猿之助が殺した可能性もあるし。
368名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ee2G3zc602023/07/01(土) 11:36:38.13
本人も死にたいのでは
371名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vDP5SHB202023/07/01(土) 11:37:09.08
リアル古畑任三郎
444名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:F5k3xvqR0
>>371
分かる
解説は古畑さんにお願いしたい
分かる
解説は古畑さんにお願いしたい
372名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ee2G3zc602023/07/01(土) 11:37:52.39
死にたいと思ってたら隠す必要もないもんね
息の根とめたこと
息の根とめたこと
373名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OuXVcB/u02023/07/01(土) 11:37:56.15
視界ふさがれくるしい死に方だね
ヘコーッてやつだろ
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374名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sv3FjvFw02023/07/01(土) 11:38:18.80
これでも死因は薬物中毒死なのか？
404名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uCt4U1gV0
>>374
解剖では中毒症状はわかるけど袋被せたこととの関係は不明なんじゃないかな
ひもで首絞めたような因果関係がわかりやすいケースと違うんで
死んだことと中毒症状は関係があるが、死んだことと袋との関係は不明だから、一応中毒死という発表になってるんじゃないかと
供述と合わせれば、袋被せたことによる窒息死に変更される可能性あると思うんだけどな
政治的忖度というよこしまな考えがなければだけどw
解剖では中毒症状はわかるけど袋被せたこととの関係は不明なんじゃないかな
ひもで首絞めたような因果関係がわかりやすいケースと違うんで
死んだことと中毒症状は関係があるが、死んだことと袋との関係は不明だから、一応中毒死という発表になってるんじゃないかと
供述と合わせれば、袋被せたことによる窒息死に変更される可能性あると思うんだけどな
政治的忖度というよこしまな考えがなければだけどw
440名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sv3FjvFw0
>>404
なるほどねえ
薬物で十分に抵抗できないようにしてからビニール袋を被せて呼吸抑制で死に至らしめたという流れを立証するのはこれからということか
なるほどねえ
薬物で十分に抵抗できないようにしてからビニール袋を被せて呼吸抑制で死に至らしめたという流れを立証するのはこれからということか
375名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/1hg5odt02023/07/01(土) 11:38:55.74
ヤクザもん気取ってるくせに国から手厚い保護を受けてる連中
つぶれてほしい糞業界
つぶれてほしい糞業界
377名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6rS6s8vP02023/07/01(土) 11:39:30.30
そもそもコイツが週刊誌に載ったハラスメントは本当なの？
内容読んでないけどセクハラとかなの？
内容読んでないけどセクハラとかなの？
386名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FYDsM7Gb0
>>377
起訴猶予にならないなら
裁判で少しは触れられるのかなあ
セブンもその他も読んだけどエグいよ
文春はそんなのありませんって仲間の証言も載せてるけど
起訴猶予にならないなら
裁判で少しは触れられるのかなあ
セブンもその他も読んだけどエグいよ
文春はそんなのありませんって仲間の証言も載せてるけど
378名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RlOlJ73e02023/07/01(土) 11:39:41.12
養生しまっせぇ
380名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AD79CuIz02023/07/01(土) 11:40:30.67
クソ爺クソ婆が死んでよかった☺
381名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tap55SNr02023/07/01(土) 11:40:58.79
週刊誌の報道が原因で家族会議で心中を決めたとして
報道内容が事実なら謝罪の言葉、事実無根ならば潔白の主張
或いはそれ以外にも何かしら言い残したいメッセージはあると思うんだけど
報道内容が事実なら謝罪の言葉、事実無根ならば潔白の主張
或いはそれ以外にも何かしら言い残したいメッセージはあると思うんだけど
両親は遺書を残してないんだよね？
382名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pJA1tB3F02023/07/01(土) 11:41:09.62
殺すことを目的してるからふつうに殺人罪だろ
383名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RitFnuU102023/07/01(土) 11:41:11.81
自殺に見せかけて親を殺すにはあまりにも不自然すぎる。
ベッドで殺せばいいのに。
ベッドで殺せばいいのに。
384名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bpc7mAy802023/07/01(土) 11:42:12.85
心中だと罪が軽く見られがちなのがムカつくな
普通に親殺しの殺人なのに
普通に親殺しの殺人なのに
385名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zzibyLXr02023/07/01(土) 11:42:24.36
まだ死んでない父親のビニール外すって
殺人の物証ゴミに出して証拠隠滅する気満々じゃん
人目につかない時間にゴミ出ししたいとか回収時間に間に合わせたかったんだろ
念入りに何回もゴミ捨てに行ってるしな
もう死んだかな？って何回も確認してそう
殺人の物証ゴミに出して証拠隠滅する気満々じゃん
人目につかない時間にゴミ出ししたいとか回収時間に間に合わせたかったんだろ
念入りに何回もゴミ捨てに行ってるしな
もう死んだかな？って何回も確認してそう
396名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qBkyZeL10
>>385
ほぼ死んでたと思うw
ドクターカーまでの搬送時w
心マしてたみたいだからw
心肺停止状態w
ほぼ死んでたと思うw
ドクターカーまでの搬送時w
心マしてたみたいだからw
心肺停止状態w
387名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sv3FjvFw02023/07/01(土) 11:43:24.61
あー、これビニール袋を被せて養生テープで止めていても目的が窒息させることではないという主張なのか
サイコパス風味ではあるが「吐いていたので床が汚れないようにビニール袋を使いました」でも辻褄は合うんだな
サイコパス風味ではあるが「吐いていたので床が汚れないようにビニール袋を使いました」でも辻褄は合うんだな
388名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:x65hPU6+02023/07/01(土) 11:43:43.99
家族会議とか何の裏付けもなく本人の供述だけ
それだけで亡くたった両親の意思を確定するのは警察もあまいな
それだけで亡くたった両親の意思を確定するのは警察もあまいな
391名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rTpeKD/402023/07/01(土) 11:45:06.02
どう考えても2人殺人なんだから上級忖度せずに殺人犯として扱えよ
392名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ldWN3AXG02023/07/01(土) 11:45:29.85
バレたら親が死ななきゃならんと思うこと最初からすんな
394名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gJny2x+a02023/07/01(土) 11:46:30.82
鑑識は仕事してるの？
395名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TPsk5y3M02023/07/01(土) 11:46:49.60
手口を詳細に報道するなよ
模倣犯がでるだろ
模倣犯がでるだろ
397名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KMFcQa7Z02023/07/01(土) 11:46:58.24
殺人やん
398名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DDXVxU7v02023/07/01(土) 11:47:01.57
これから自殺するからパジャマに着替えようってならんだろ
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I urge you to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it was purely disappointment along with concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or even better, seek out an honest platform to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it was only frustration as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, find a trustworthy site to meet your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this site. My own encounter with it has been nothing but dismay as well as concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or even better, seek out a trustworthy service to meet your needs.
I highly advise steer clear of this site. My own encounter with it has been only dismay along with suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, find an honest platform to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was only dismay along with doubts about scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, find an honest platform for your needs.
I urge you stay away from this platform. My personal experience with it was only disappointment along with suspicion of fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, seek out a more reputable platform for your needs.