これを薬物の中毒死にできる裏技があるのか
台所かリビングに庭に出られる勝手口があるだろうから。
見つかりそうになったらすぐ逃げられる。
両親にこんなことしなくても
死刑で
ねーよｗ
それでも両親を殺そうとする動機はよほどなんだろうな
溺愛されてもそのありがたさがわかんなきゃ
要介護の老人なんてただの邪魔もんだろうね
溺愛されたから他人を尊重せず身勝手な行動を起こす
資産があるから両親を殺しても困らない、むしろ今となっては邪魔
かな
法医学にも詳しい医療関係者が次のように解説する。
「睡眠導入剤をのんで眠っている状態だったとしても、ビニール袋をかぶせられて低酸素状態になれば、意識が覚醒する、つまり目を覚ますことがある。猿之助さんの両親に意識が戻って、とっさに袋を剥ぎ取ろうとした可能性は充分にありえます」
猿之助の証言通り、両親が自殺を覚悟して向精神薬を服用したとしても、最期に抵抗した形跡が残った場合、事件化はどう判断されるのか。
「過去の判例では、自殺願望があっても、遺体に抵抗した形跡があったことで、殺人罪が適用されたケースがあります。2017年に神奈川県座間市で発生した連続殺人事件です。白石隆浩死刑囚はSNS上で自殺願望を持つ被害者たちを言葉巧みに誘い出し、犯行に及んでいました。被害者たちは自殺願望を間違いなく持っていたものの、犯行時に白石死刑囚に抵抗した形跡が残されており、裁判では嘱託殺人ではなく、殺人罪が適用されました。
猿之助さんの両親に、どこまで意識があったかは定かではありませんが、ビニール袋を剥ぎ取ろうと抵抗したのであれば、それは“死にたくない”という意思表示と見なされる可能性があるのです」（前出・全国紙社会部記者）
上野先生が鑑定してたら、薬物中毒とか言わなかったかもしれんな
するみたい
>>410
低酸素状態で覚醒して息子になにされたか気がついたんだろうか？胸がつまるわ
せめて意識を失ったままならまだ救いがあるが
法医学にも詳しい医療関係者が次のように解説する。
「睡眠導入剤をのんで眠っている状態だったとしても、ビニール袋をかぶせられて低酸素状態になれば、意識が覚醒する、つまり目を覚ますことがある。猿之助さんの両親に意識が戻って、とっさに袋を剥ぎ取ろうとした可能性は充分にありえます」
猿之助の証言通り、両親が自殺を覚悟して向精神薬を服用したとしても、最期に抵抗した形跡が残った場合、事件化はどう判断されるのか。
「過去の判例では、自殺願望があっても、遺体に抵抗した形跡があったことで、殺人罪が適用されたケースがあります。2017年に神奈川県座間市で発生した連続殺人事件です。白石隆浩死刑囚はSNS上で自殺願望を持つ被害者たちを言葉巧みに誘い出し、犯行に及んでいました。被害者たちは自殺願望を間違いなく持っていたものの、犯行時に白石死刑囚に抵抗した形跡が残されており、裁判では嘱託殺人ではなく、殺人罪が適用されました。
猿之助さんの両親に、どこまで意識があったかは定かではありませんが、ビニール袋を剥ぎ取ろうと抵抗したのであれば、それは“死にたくない”という意思表示と見なされる可能性があるのです」（前出・全国紙社会部記者）
父親はわからない
同意して薬を飲んだ
でも、生き残ってもらう気はなかったから確実に死ねるように息子が手助けをした
そして自分は本当に死ぬ気があったのかという疑問
パジャマ云々は家でリラックス？してたならわざわざちゃんとした服を着る気にもならないので疑問はない
親説得して殺してるってことは
これは贔屓目に見て殺人ですね
それならバレる前にヤッちまおうと思ったかもな
例え殺人犯になってでも知られたくなかった事を知られずに済んだのなら本望だろう
猿がホモなのは両親も知ってたはず
だから團子を後継に目してた
知らなかったのはパワハラセクハラだろうな
【スクープ】市川猿之助が共演者やスタッフに“過剰な性的スキンシップ”のセクハラ・パワハラ「拒否した途端に外された」
https://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20230518_1870283.html?DETAIL
だよねえ、問題はその内容だったんでは
後は他にも出る予感があったとか
週刊誌記事で両親にホモバレが最高に屈辱だったんやろな
親にあれこれ説教されて殺意が沸いたんやろ
こんな単純明快な殺人事件を穏便に導く警察に呆れるわ
跡取りを気にする家で47歳と言う年齢
知らなかったわけないと思うけど
ただ、セクハラ、パワハラは知らなかっただろう
パワハラに関してはそういう意識無いんじゃないか
芸の道ですしって擁護が出るように常態化みたいなもんで
同性愛者なのは知ってたんじゃない？
パワハラとかセクハラしてたのは知らんかったとか
ホモパワハラがバレて歌舞伎を汚す気かと親に怒られてカッとなって殺した
親に責任取って引退しろと厳しく責められて自暴自棄になって無理心中した
そのどっちかじゃないか
最初は謝罪行脚の方向で動いてたみたいだから、親にバレることは気にしてなかったと思う
親に怒られて何かがプチンと切れたんだろう
すごいプライド高そうで脆さもある感じだから
随分優しい見方だな
親だけ死んだの確認したから証拠隠滅、
わざわざ事務所に電話して必ず人が来るよう仕向けてから
死なない量の薬飲んでんだし
正直計画しっかりしてたやろ、としか思えんし
自分は死ぬ気無かったようにしか見えん
親殺したあと冷静になったんだと思う
よく考えてみたら死ぬほどじゃねえなと
でももう殺しちゃったからどうしようってことで証拠隠滅ｗ
いざ自分が死ぬ番だとなるとやっぱり苦しいのは嫌だからね
無理心中で一番ありがちなパターン
ほんと、事実なら謝罪すべきことは謝罪し
相手方と話し合えば良かった
頭に血が上って、最悪を選択してしまった
優しいね
次の日がゴミ収集日だったのは偶然だと考えてるんだね
睡眠薬だと4千錠飲まないと致死量にならないんだろ？
向精神薬中毒死も窒息死も酸欠死だろ？w
普通は苦しくなったら暴れたり抵抗したり何かしら痕跡が残るんだよw
無いなら外的要因が無い判断w
>>359
傷があった
何処情報か知らんがw
司法解剖関係者からしか出ない情報だなw
総合的に見て向精神薬中毒死だろ？w
不祥事起こしたのが両親の方だったら自殺幇助も少し納得だけど
でも実際は殺人＋証拠隠滅でしょ？
猿の罪は重すぎるよ
歌舞伎なんて守る価値が無い芸能、無くなっても問題が無い芸能。
歌舞伎にしがみ付いて生きている連中は罪を軽くしたくって必死なんだろうけれど
警察検察、猿に都合が良いように動いたら日本の司法は終わりだよ。
養生テープで止めたとなると、とどめをさした感があるんだが
親の期待を裏切ることを異様に怖がるものよ
・「家族会議で心中を決めた」
・「親バレが怖くて知られる前に殺した」
この2つだと後者の方にリアリティを感じる
歌舞伎なんて皆どこかで血が繋がってるような狭い世界でやってんだから
息子がゲイなんて耳に入らないわけない
玉三郎が弟子にセクハラやってたぐらいゲイが当たり前の世界だし
「親が実際に知っていたかどうか」はこの際たいして重要じゃないよ
猿之助が「親には知られていない」と感じていて「今回の事でバレてしまう」と思ったのなら「知られない為に殺す」というのは動機になりうる
この件よりも前に本人が面と向かって親にカミングアウトしてたのかどうか
たぶんやってないと思うんだよね
カミングアウトできてないやつってある種の虚勢だけで自己を保ってるとこあるからな
それがバレてしまったら何十年も築いてきたもう1人の自分が壊れてしまうから常識では考えられない行動をとる
両親にカミングアウトできない同性愛者が悩んだ末に自殺するケースも実際かなり多い
大抵の場合は自殺だけど人格的に問題がある場合は殺人も選択肢に入るのだろう
知ってもわざわざ親に向かってご注進はしないんでは
薬は自発的だとして
ビニールかけて養生テープ
殺人じゃないのか？
薬で死んだのならギリ自殺幇助
薬で意識が朦朧としているところに窒息死なら
殺人なのでは？
なぜ自身も両親と同じ方法で自◯決行しなかったのかな？
用意したクスリだけでは死なないってことですね
ビニール袋をテープでないと、、、殺人ですこれは
これがセーフになったら同じ事する人出てくるわな
薬飲ませて被せて死なせて
自殺のお手伝い！が流行るやんけ
自殺幇助×2でも死刑で良いだろ
死にたかったら本望だよね
確実に死ねるし
2人殺したから死刑もアリエル
一般人なら殺人で起訴されそう
介護疲れならまあわかる
さすがは文化人w
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