1冬月記者 ★ID:iasAAWjG92023/07/01(土) 08:22:19.54
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/12890647a5970f97039e03afadea273e733dd798
徳光和夫さん、ラジオ生放送で６月に１４本塁打の大谷翔平に疑問…「日本の野球でこれだけの成績を残せるだろうか」
フリーアナウンサーの徳光和夫さんが１日、パーソナリティーを務めるニッポン放送「徳光和夫とくモリ！歌謡サタデー」（土曜・午前５時）に生出演した。
番組では、エンゼルスの大谷翔平投手が２９日（日本時間３０日）に「３番・ＤＨ」で本拠でのホワイトソックス戦に出場し、２９号２ランを放ったことを報じた。
６月１４本目で、球団ではプホルスら、日本人メジャー選手では松井秀喜と自身が持つ月間最多記録を更新した。打点を６６とし、本塁打＆打点のメジャー２冠に返り咲いた。
徳光さんは６月に１４本を「すごいね」と絶賛。一方で「日本の野球で大谷選手がいたら、これだけの成績を残せるだろうか」と疑問を呈した。
続けて「米国の投手はあまりにも大谷研究を怠っていると僕は思います」とし「日本の投手だったら絶対にこんなに打たれてないです。日本の研究するサポーター、スコアラーはしっかりしているんです」とコメントした
さらに「何度も言いますけど米国は世界２位の国ですから。日本が世界１位の野球国ですから」とＷＢＣで日本が米国を破り優勝した実績を引き合いに力説していた。
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388名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j3q3XMgS0
>>1
日本の野球はズルのかたまり
日本の野球はズルのかたまり
・少年野球はコーチに付け届けしたらレギュラーのズル
・高校野球強豪校の入学はズル
・レギュラー獲得はズル
・活躍できないドラフト選手が優遇されるズル
・試合は騙し合いのズル
・投球は端っこばかり投げて勝負しないズル
・選手の不祥事があっても不問のズル
これじゃあ
日本の野球なんて見なくなるよなあwww
649名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp0
>>1
短小包茎
短小包茎
反日工作員の
徳光
いい加減にしとけよwwwwwwwww
653名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1rMsUKgq0
>>1
今はメジャーのほうが相手選手に対する研究を徹底的にしているんじゃないかな
昔のイメージで語られても困るよ
今はメジャーのほうが相手選手に対する研究を徹底的にしているんじゃないかな
昔のイメージで語られても困るよ
143名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j3q3XMgS0
>>1
しかし、
日本の野球がつまらないのは
それが原因だろよw
しかし、
日本の野球がつまらないのは
それが原因だろよw
いいんだよ
マヌケなところに投げて
打たれるからこそ試合が盛り上がる
592名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MtT4FJGH0
>>1
うるせーよ 老害
いちゃもんつけるなよ
うるせーよ 老害
いちゃもんつけるなよ
17名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gOmhFqNs0
>>1
ハイハイそうだね
長嶋の方が凄いね
ハイハイそうだね
長嶋の方が凄いね
852名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FZRtSHxb0
>>1
日本社会だと野球にかかわらず陰湿な人間関係で有望な若手潰すよな
日本社会だと野球にかかわらず陰湿な人間関係で有望な若手潰すよな
862名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6y5p6WOu0
>>852
チンチンが
チンチンが
小さいだけの
徳さんみたいなクズの
悪口に
バカが
騙されるからね
661名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp0
>>1
顔と身長からして
顔と身長からして
短小包茎の
徳光ざまあみろwwwwwwwww
789名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NRqY6H2X0
>>1
クソ狭い東京ドームやPayPayドームで野球やれば、仮に日本の投手に厳しいとこを責められても、左中間右中間のフライが簡単にホームランになる。結果ホームラン数が減ることはないだろ。
クソ狭い東京ドームやPayPayドームで野球やれば、仮に日本の投手に厳しいとこを責められても、左中間右中間のフライが簡単にホームランになる。結果ホームラン数が減ることはないだろ。
ジャイアンツきちが◯ジジイは、松井の記録が破られたのがムカつくだけ。
601名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MtT4FJGH0
>>1
日本のスター選手 多くが
大リーグ 行ったけど
活躍できるのはその中でも
ごくわずか
日本のスター選手 多くが
大リーグ 行ったけど
活躍できるのはその中でも
ごくわずか
90名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hLW/R4cO0
>>1
※元巨人軍の選手ならこんな事はいいません
※元巨人軍の選手ならこんな事はいいません
282名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rYVb5WbW0
>>1
米国でフリーアナウンサー務まるかい？
米国でフリーアナウンサー務まるかい？
732名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1CcAVrm00
>>1
競艇行ってスッてろ
競艇行ってスッてろ
669名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp0
>>1
顔と身長から
顔と身長から
滲み出る
短小包茎の
徳光ざまあみろwwwwwwwww
158名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j3q3XMgS0
>>1
「研究」といえば聞こえはいいが
日本の野球はズル、抜け駆けだかんなw
「研究」といえば聞こえはいいが
日本の野球はズル、抜け駆けだかんなw
だから
つまらないんだわ
863名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:R5jih3eq0
>>1
かもな
かもな
だけど、それはジジイの思い込みだろ（笑）
逆に日本でのプレイだったらアメリカでの成績よりもさらに凄いことになってるって可能性もあるよね？
成績や記録のために(選手の生活)順位が確定したあとの手を抜いた試合やってる日本野球のクソぶりをなんとかしたら？
416名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:r1Q726S40
>>1
寝てろ
寝てろ
679名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp0
>>1
顔と身長から
顔と身長から
滲み出る
短小包茎の
日本人コンプレックスの
徳光ざまあみろwwwwwwwww
364名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cyL1lhz+0
>>1
この老ぼれのクソクズめ
この老ぼれのクソクズめ
お前ら老害が画面に居座り続けてるから、テレビ離れしたんだよバカ
685名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Jn11dXsy0
>>1
良くも悪くも打たれない工夫が足りないよな
ストレート投げて打たれたら仕方ないみたいな
大谷の方が実力は上と認めて打たれない工夫をしてる風に思えない
良くも悪くも打たれない工夫が足りないよな
ストレート投げて打たれたら仕方ないみたいな
大谷の方が実力は上と認めて打たれない工夫をしてる風に思えない
813名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:q1LIZfPl0
>>1
松井の月間13本知らんの？
その後スットコやぞ
最終30本も打ってないし
松井の月間13本知らんの？
その後スットコやぞ
最終30本も打ってないし
176名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D1dP82J20
>>1
（今はもう修正されたけど）一時期、打ち込まれたバウアーを見てると、あながち間違いとは言えない
（今はもう修正されたけど）一時期、打ち込まれたバウアーを見てると、あながち間違いとは言えない
433名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:r1Q726S40
>>1
大福食って寝てろ
大福食って寝てろ
944名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q6o6jk8S0
>>1
どういう心理なのか分からんが一理ある
どういう心理なのか分からんが一理ある
692名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n/i/Vvmp0
>>1
ぺ○スついてんのか？
ぺ○スついてんのか？
顔と身長からして
短小包茎の
徳光ざまあみろwwwwwwwww
570名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aiWgjbF30
>>1
訃報かとおもた
訃報かとおもた
123名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j3q3XMgS0
>>1
なるほどね
さすが徳光は言うことが違う
なるほどね
さすが徳光は言うことが違う
だから日本の野球は盛り上がらないんだろwww
638名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:I+OypYbr0
>>1
短小包茎
短小包茎
野球オンチの
徳光
いい加減にしとけよwwwwwwwww
447名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nRLuDIHY0
>>1
“讀賣だけ”の昭和の老害はまだ元気だねぇ
“讀賣だけ”の昭和の老害はまだ元気だねぇ
2名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hhjpzH/k02023/07/01(土) 08:24:23.24
日本だともっと厳しいとこに投げられるからな
879名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9D43gY4W0
>>2
イチローもオリックス晩年には厳しいインコース攻めされた挙句骨折までしてしまったな
日本の野球は研究に疎いか面倒臭いので相手を怖がらせたり破壊する方を選ぶ
イチローもオリックス晩年には厳しいインコース攻めされた挙句骨折までしてしまったな
日本の野球は研究に疎いか面倒臭いので相手を怖がらせたり破壊する方を選ぶ
3名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UuyP2cLa02023/07/01(土) 08:24:28.73
松井の記録が破られたんでムカついてるのか?
288名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1/mTHbAO0
>>3
徳光からすれば松井はそこはかとなく裏切り者だからそうでも無い
この人は巨人軍絶対主義者だから
徳光からすれば松井はそこはかとなく裏切り者だからそうでも無い
この人は巨人軍絶対主義者だから
97名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Qryzt6wK0
>>3
松井の国民栄誉賞が台無しだもんな
松井の国民栄誉賞が台無しだもんな
542名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:d1us2p4X0
>>97
ＡVマニアで初めから価値ないだろ
ＡVマニアで初めから価値ないだろ
705名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JJ3HuwnP0
>>3
徳光は、松井のことは好きじゃないんだよ。
清原が大好きなんよ。
徳光は、松井のことは好きじゃないんだよ。
清原が大好きなんよ。
713名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cTg4a40R0
>>705
巨人や中日ファンだからか？
巨人や中日ファンだからか？
737名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hdCzMicT0
>>3
王、長嶋の存在を一気に消してしまう大谷の活躍だからな
とにかく悔しいのだろうww
王、長嶋の存在を一気に消してしまう大谷の活躍だからな
とにかく悔しいのだろうww
132名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DbCcvbWK0
>>3
それすぐに思ったわ徳光相変わらずだな
巨人好き公言するだけならまだしも他貶すって性格悪すぎ
松井に投げて打ってができるんか？比べる土台から違うだろ怒
それすぐに思ったわ徳光相変わらずだな
巨人好き公言するだけならまだしも他貶すって性格悪すぎ
松井に投げて打ってができるんか？比べる土台から違うだろ怒
314名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKVGrCRv0
>>132
相手チームの選手が乗った飛行機が落ちればいいと言い放った奴だからなw
相手チームの選手が乗った飛行機が落ちればいいと言い放った奴だからなw
603TURIID:cSbW8b1O0
>>314
グズだな真性の
グズだな真性の
888名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9OXXgFxI0
>>603
そんなクズがしたり顔でtvに出れるのが芸能界
そんなクズがしたり顔でtvに出れるのが芸能界
531名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DbCcvbWK0
>>314
マジか？？サイテー野郎だな
マジか？？サイテー野郎だな
6名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:H/+JpP8g0
>>3
ああ、それか納得
ああ、それか納得
390名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xwGnYwx50
>>3
これだなw
これだなw
582名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sacPz4590
>>3
www
www
426名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:r1Q726S40
>>3
あぁなるほど
あぁなるほど
267名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FT2X1tU20
>>3
徳光は清原派だよ
清原ばっかり褒めてた
徳光は清原派だよ
清原ばっかり褒めてた
458名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NIf1zNve0
>>3
これじゃあまるで松井が、そして松井がいた巨人がたいしたことないみたいじゃないか
メジャーの投手陣はたるんどる！喝！！
これじゃあまるで松井が、そして松井がいた巨人がたいしたことないみたいじゃないか
メジャーの投手陣はたるんどる！喝！！
461名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ckZqGBID0
>>3
あーこれか
あーこれか
941名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RO2Ohhg60
>>3
見事なまでの老害仕草で草
いつまでもこんなの電波で流すなよ
見事なまでの老害仕草で草
いつまでもこんなの電波で流すなよ
337名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NO14mtLL0
>>3
ホンコレ
ホンコレ
151名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mds4VM+p0
>>3
ヤンスタムラン、引っ張りしかできない、ゴロキング中距離打者、WBC辞退
元から比較する対象ですらない
ヤンスタムラン、引っ張りしかできない、ゴロキング中距離打者、WBC辞退
元から比較する対象ですらない
186名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j+NEkeK80
>>151>>3
徳光「何だとこの野郎！松井選手は偉大なんだよ！」
徳光「何だとこの野郎！松井選手は偉大なんだよ！」
4名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/zbQE73Z02023/07/01(土) 08:24:45.35
わろた
5名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bV3vze1t02023/07/01(土) 08:24:45.71
これは正論
7名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UA+BahED02023/07/01(土) 08:24:58.36
この人は若いころから意味不明の巨人びいきだったしな。
26名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tArkiRjD0
>>7
長嶋さんのバット傘立てに入れてたし
長嶋さんのバット傘立てに入れてたし
421名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HD6D1elP0
>>7巨人ファンはいいが評論家や査定はしてはいけない。公平な評価できないから。いい時は誉めるのは良いがダメな所はきちんとダメだと言わなければ成長もしくは向上はない。清原が覚醒剤した時なんて温い事言ってるんだそして温い態度とってるんだと思った
490名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1Bxlvgcr0
>>7
江川事件でさえ受け入れたってことだし
人としてどうなのか、って思うけど
江川事件でさえ受け入れたってことだし
人としてどうなのか、って思うけど
27名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Zfleq6f90
>>7
こいつに限らず一定の年齢以上の巨人ファンはみんなアクロバティック巨人贔屓だから
こいつに限らず一定の年齢以上の巨人ファンはみんなアクロバティック巨人贔屓だから
40名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:H/+JpP8g0
>>27
さすがに広島カープの選手が乗ってる飛行機が落ちたら巨人が日本シリーズに出れる、
まで言うクズカスはコイツくらいかと
さすがに広島カープの選手が乗ってる飛行機が落ちたら巨人が日本シリーズに出れる、
まで言うクズカスはコイツくらいかと
876名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JI49K6Rk0
>>7
意味不明って元日テレのアナウンサーだからだろ
意味不明って元日テレのアナウンサーだからだろ
902名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o/1gpudJ0
>>876
昔のやり過ぎだった日テレから見ても徳光はコンプラどころの話じゃないレベルだっただろ
広島の選手が乗った飛行機が墜ちろとか、ダイエーの藤井将雄投手が癌で死んで巨人有利と喜ぶとか
70年代のノリをそのままにして今日まで徳光が生き残ってこれたのは周囲が持ち上げたから
ナベツネと同じ老害だけど悪いのはそれを許してる周囲だよ
昔のやり過ぎだった日テレから見ても徳光はコンプラどころの話じゃないレベルだっただろ
広島の選手が乗った飛行機が墜ちろとか、ダイエーの藤井将雄投手が癌で死んで巨人有利と喜ぶとか
70年代のノリをそのままにして今日まで徳光が生き残ってこれたのは周囲が持ち上げたから
ナベツネと同じ老害だけど悪いのはそれを許してる周囲だよ
8名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4E1Toqgp02023/07/01(土) 08:25:20.53
まあ日本ならここまで打ててないかもね
58TURIID:cSbW8b1O0
>>8
全打席フォアボールとか
スポーツマンシップ無視だからな
全打席フォアボールとか
スポーツマンシップ無視だからな
289名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dcDxZCbS0
>>58
野球や大谷スレにはもれなくこういうキチガイサカチョンがゴキブリみたいに湧いて出てくる
野球や大谷スレにはもれなくこういうキチガイサカチョンがゴキブリみたいに湧いて出てくる
589名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hDzPxvXy0
>>58
それなんて明徳義塾？
それなんて明徳義塾？
9名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MXlvLPru02023/07/01(土) 08:25:31.45
日本の野球は世界一
もはやメジャーよりすごい
もはやメジャーよりすごい
393名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gA6FR7ex0
>>9
世界で一番野球が盛んな国だからね
世界で一番野球が盛んな国だからね
10名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8u176ms902023/07/01(土) 08:25:49.41
日本はボールの性能がいいから際どいところに投げやすい
11名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8al38Y7/02023/07/01(土) 08:25:52.40
張本と同じこと言ってる
12名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:u9NbSA9H02023/07/01(土) 08:25:58.19
たしかに、環境が違うだけでメジャーの方がレベルが高いとか言えないよな
WBCも結局アメリカはポンコツだしな
大谷というメジャーの歴史を覆すレジェンドが生まれてしまった以上もはやアメリカを上に見る必要はないよな
WBCも結局アメリカはポンコツだしな
大谷というメジャーの歴史を覆すレジェンドが生まれてしまった以上もはやアメリカを上に見る必要はないよな
415名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xOOi83fG0
>>12
メジャー言うても北中米と極東しか人材供給してないマイナースポーツだからな、しかも黒人には無視されてるし
メジャー言うても北中米と極東しか人材供給してないマイナースポーツだからな、しかも黒人には無視されてるし
13名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2pfZmou902023/07/01(土) 08:26:21.94
王の年間HR記録が抜かれそうになった時もいまじゃ完全にアウトな
差別発言してたし頭おかしい人
差別発言してたし頭おかしい人
14名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NM5Hae5n02023/07/01(土) 08:26:22.56
アメリカは球団多いから対戦少ないしそこまで研究しない
843名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+2q+Ghac0
>>14
それ大谷も同じだろ
相手が少ないなら大谷も研究出来る
滅多に会わない投手打つほうが難しい
それ大谷も同じだろ
相手が少ないなら大谷も研究出来る
滅多に会わない投手打つほうが難しい
15名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:66BOLAgn02023/07/01(土) 08:26:23.48
典型的な害悪な虚カスだよな
16名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gDotoXoA02023/07/01(土) 08:26:31.58
どうせ申告敬遠か内角攻めぐらいだろ
大して変わんねえよ
大して変わんねえよ
85TURIID:cSbW8b1O0
>>16
間違いなくビーンボール投げるよな
汚い野球しかできないでしょ
その点MLBの分析能力の方が遥かに高いから
正攻法で勝負する分mlbの方が見てて清々しい
npbとか一切見なくなったな実際
選手は皆半島臭いブサばっかだし
魅力ZERO
間違いなくビーンボール投げるよな
汚い野球しかできないでしょ
その点MLBの分析能力の方が遥かに高いから
正攻法で勝負する分mlbの方が見てて清々しい
npbとか一切見なくなったな実際
選手は皆半島臭いブサばっかだし
魅力ZERO
18名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NRc1R8Qu02023/07/01(土) 08:26:37.13
筒香さんの悪口はヤメロ！！
19名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sanVrNDl02023/07/01(土) 08:26:38.24
老害はおもしれーなあーw
20名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sZdSEIdv02023/07/01(土) 08:26:41.48
大谷はNPBでは活躍出来なかっただろな
305名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:t4sg+Lj10
>>20
日本でも2桁勝利2桁本塁打やってんだよなぁ
栗山さんが大事にして怪我させないようにしていたから規定打席には到達しなかったけど、それでも少ない打席で22本は打ってたかな
日本でも2桁勝利2桁本塁打やってんだよなぁ
栗山さんが大事にして怪我させないようにしていたから規定打席には到達しなかったけど、それでも少ない打席で22本は打ってたかな
21名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rrtiucWU02023/07/01(土) 08:27:06.98
草
22名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NSJPKu4M02023/07/01(土) 08:27:11.69
これは一理あるよね
23名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mA1/UFgK02023/07/01(土) 08:27:12.79
でも、筒香とかさ
24名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HymnrmnA02023/07/01(土) 08:27:15.78
巨人贔屓のじいさんやしな
25名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:q8Rbr2AE02023/07/01(土) 08:27:16.65
誠也とかみてないんか
28名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lnU6fKa+02023/07/01(土) 08:27:47.49
日本だったら敬遠ばっかりするからな
29名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WiipYfdz02023/07/01(土) 08:27:50.59
試合見るとミスばっかで雑なプレーが多いパワーとスピードだけって感じ
231名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sanVrNDl0
>>29
NPBの方が丁寧なのは確か、
メジャーは身体能力依存が高い
NPBの方が丁寧なのは確か、
メジャーは身体能力依存が高い
ただピッチコム&ピッチクロックで見易くなってる、
あれはNPBも見習わないとダメ、
1球を投げるのクソ遅いんじゃぼけ
237名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yPwjOC3K0
>>231
誠也なんて全く打ててない
誠也なんて全く打ててない
261名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sanVrNDl0
>>237
何でだろね…今年はやってくれると思ったんだが
何でだろね…今年はやってくれると思ったんだが
30名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KOl8bQIn02023/07/01(土) 08:27:53.07
じゃあ日本人の野手はみんなメジャーで活躍できるな
31名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zqPhZSsO02023/07/01(土) 08:27:54.31
歌舞伎なんて海外じゃ
勝ったこともねえぞ。
勝ったこともねえぞ。
32名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:66BOLAgn02023/07/01(土) 08:27:58.20
大谷よりけつあな坂本の方が国民栄誉賞間違いないだろうしな
巨人って吉本歌舞伎並に聖域で電通球団だよな
巨人って吉本歌舞伎並に聖域で電通球団だよな
881名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:i/N+mmmp0
>>32
わざとですか？
大谷は一度、辞退してるんだが
わざとですか？
大谷は一度、辞退してるんだが
33名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BUsz5ObD02023/07/01(土) 08:27:59.86
大谷だけ凄かったら大谷だけ打たせないのは出来るんだろうな
34名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8+ZOuhRC02023/07/01(土) 08:28:14.03
そもそもアメリカ人は野球に無関心
35名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XOmjc1Ry02023/07/01(土) 08:28:17.05
日本だと150本くらい打ちそう
36名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/+Z5rE/l02023/07/01(土) 08:28:18.68
どう見ても大谷が企画外の化け物だよ
37名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hPI5HGrw02023/07/01(土) 08:28:22.40
実際これ正しいわ
日本だったら打ててないｗ
日本だったら打ててないｗ
38名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xFkneXU502023/07/01(土) 08:28:24.41
向こうはストライクゾーンに投げてくれるからな
39名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Yxmiae+T02023/07/01(土) 08:28:25.37
3Aレベルの外国人に無双される日本野球が何だって？w
41名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tThCNKU102023/07/01(土) 08:28:55.91
日本なら100本は打つよ
42名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:66BOLAgn02023/07/01(土) 08:28:55.95
見える見えるよ
坂本が引退した辺りで国民栄誉賞貰って松井の時並に国民がしらけてるシーンが
坂本が引退した辺りで国民栄誉賞貰って松井の時並に国民がしらけてるシーンが
43名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/0qxjCJN02023/07/01(土) 08:29:02.90
というか、今の大谷なら
全部敬遠したほうがマシ
全部敬遠したほうがマシ
44名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/eaSOPBm02023/07/01(土) 08:29:12.86
日本だと徹底したインコース攻めに苦しむだろうね
48名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:q8Rbr2AE0
>>44
んなことしたら月20本打ちそう
んなことしたら月20本打ちそう
45名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kdl8icg002023/07/01(土) 08:29:17.69
そもそもMLBはフォーク投げないから
日本の方が打者はむずい
日本の方が打者はむずい
66名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Yxmiae+T0
>>45
千賀の防御率知ってるか？
だったら日本時代より無双してないとな？w
大魔神佐々木や野茂の防御率も酷いもんだったが
千賀の防御率知ってるか？
だったら日本時代より無双してないとな？w
大魔神佐々木や野茂の防御率も酷いもんだったが
52名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:H/+JpP8g0
>>45
あちらのスプリットって、ほぼほぼフォークボールだろ
あちらのスプリットって、ほぼほぼフォークボールだろ
279名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cyL1lhz+0
>>45
めちゃくちゃ投げるぞ
めちゃくちゃ投げるぞ
46名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5xeezbcB02023/07/01(土) 08:29:55.71
他の日本人選手がNPB時代より成績落ちてるのに何言ってんだこのバカ
47名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:k06vbWzG02023/07/01(土) 08:30:02.60
日本の方がレベルが高いのにアメリカの方が稼げるんだったらみんなアメリカへ行くだろｗ
49名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2QxTTNpH02023/07/01(土) 08:30:23.83
米国の投手はアバウトだしな
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