400名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zR/bmiC602023/07/17(月) 19:58:25.10
世界のナベケンの娘だからベビーシッターなんか毎日交代して選べるだろ
404名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NBRB3UtL0
>>400
南果歩が離婚した時、渡辺は借金だらけと言ってたよ
南果歩が離婚した時、渡辺は借金だらけと言ってたよ
402名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NBRB3UtL02023/07/17(月) 19:59:06.57
アンジェリーナ・ジョリーは子供６人（うち養子３人）だけど
子供の世話は２４時間交代でシッターがいて、食事は専属の料理人つきと言ってた。
子供の世話は２４時間交代でシッターがいて、食事は専属の料理人つきと言ってた。
流石にお金持ちでないと無理だけど、
日本のお金持ちもこんな感じで子だくさんになってくれたら少子化もやわらぐかも
412名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DuOsf9Xf0
>>402
日本のお金持ちや権力者がお妾さんの子どもを何人も養うくらいならいいんだけどね。
不倫OKの世の中にしないと。
日本のお金持ちや権力者がお妾さんの子どもを何人も養うくらいならいいんだけどね。
不倫OKの世の中にしないと。
405名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:brnOB1VO02023/07/17(月) 20:02:13.91
ベビーシッター代は、でっくんに請求するんですね
408名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qzixYlBR0
>>405
あいつは義務の養育費も払わんからな
あいつは義務の養育費も払わんからな
418名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NBRB3UtL0
>>408
日本は払ってる人のほうが少ないようだけど
日本は払ってる人のほうが少ないようだけど
片親世帯の貧困率「48.1％」、母子世帯の「養育費受け取り率」たった24.3％
“両親の別居”が子供の成長に与える残酷な現実
ニュース板にこのニュースでスレ立ってた。
420名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xtFErZcV0
>>418
芸能人やってて情けないやつって話でしょ
嫁が慰謝料なしで別れてくれて家の権利も買い取ってくれたのに
芸能人やってて情けないやつって話でしょ
嫁が慰謝料なしで別れてくれて家の権利も買い取ってくれたのに
406名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DuOsf9Xf02023/07/17(月) 20:02:52.48
仕事して稼いでいたら当然そうすべきだけど、
仮に専業だったら3人子育てくらいは自分でやりなさいというのも一方で真実かと。
仮に専業だったら3人子育てくらいは自分でやりなさいというのも一方で真実かと。
407名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NBRB3UtL02023/07/17(月) 20:03:18.71
渡辺謙に「借金しかなかったんですもの」 南果歩が億単位の慰謝料報道を全否定 2018.5.29
南果歩本人が「女性自身」（光文社）誌上で全否定している。
同誌記者が“渡辺が南に支払う慰謝料は10億円”という噂の真偽を南に直撃すると、
彼女は＜10億円なんて、とんでもない。全部嘘です！
だって、（渡辺には）借金しかなかったんですもの……＞と語ったそうだ。
409名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0Qrx1gZm02023/07/17(月) 20:03:50.42
行き遅れまんさん大激怒
410名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hhosw7SI02023/07/17(月) 20:04:22.58
専業主婦の気持ちは全くわからんが一人の時間がほしくなったり友達と遊びに行ったりはしたいと言ってるよ
411名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:u6msoFdv02023/07/17(月) 20:05:33.14
海外みたいに学生がバイトでできればいいんだろうけど日本じゃ無理だ
413名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PHnun6QE02023/07/17(月) 20:06:00.97
急になんやSNSでなんか言われたんか
414名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7mjbMfRQ02023/07/17(月) 20:07:18.10
日本でもファミサポとかあるけどな
学校終わりとか学童から習い事先まで送迎のみとかやってもらってる人もいるよ
学校終わりとか学童から習い事先まで送迎のみとかやってもらってる人もいるよ
415名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:270bQY5Y02023/07/17(月) 20:08:05.67
海外の映画やドラマ見ると
よくベビーシッター出てくるもんな
日本ももっと普及すりゃ共働き夫婦の負担が減る
やっぱ仕事帰ってからの育児と家事はキツいて
よくベビーシッター出てくるもんな
日本ももっと普及すりゃ共働き夫婦の負担が減る
やっぱ仕事帰ってからの育児と家事はキツいて
428名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:c3xEHPqK0
>>415
それ貧乏な人間が多いからだよ
人手不足の日本だと外国人労働者にやらせるしかなくなる
それ貧乏な人間が多いからだよ
人手不足の日本だと外国人労働者にやらせるしかなくなる
462名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gZiXTIxM0
>>415
外国ではベビーシッターによる虐待や事故が社会問題なのが
あまり知られてないかもね
日本でも保育園でもあるのに
密室だから
子供が怪我したり死亡しても
よく分からなかったり
外国ではベビーシッターによる虐待や事故が社会問題なのが
あまり知られてないかもね
日本でも保育園でもあるのに
密室だから
子供が怪我したり死亡しても
よく分からなかったり
416名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1+d74/1Y02023/07/17(月) 20:08:13.13
イギリスなんて数年来ないらしいけど
あれは自由か
あれは自由か
417名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ql3nXzWc02023/07/17(月) 20:09:29.66
日本で子供産んだら負けよ
よほどのドMだけでしょw
よほどのドMだけでしょw
419名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ql3nXzWc02023/07/17(月) 20:12:10.55
ついでに日本人男性との結婚も負けだと思う。
子持ち女性の幸福度の低さすごいよね
子持ち女性の幸福度の低さすごいよね
421名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ql3nXzWc02023/07/17(月) 20:13:46.24
8割の男さんが養育費踏み倒してる国で
誰が産むんだよww
ただでさえ女は差別で非正規なのにw
産まないのが一番のリスクヘッジ。
誰が産むんだよww
ただでさえ女は差別で非正規なのにw
産まないのが一番のリスクヘッジ。
422名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1+d74/1Y02023/07/17(月) 20:13:50.28
過酷な現実って知らないで離婚してる人いるのか
423名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:u5Q8EtmG02023/07/17(月) 20:14:41.74
日本の母親だって誰も好き好んで頑張り過ぎてない。誰だってシッターだのなんだの頼んだり頼ったりしたいだろうよ。人脈的にも金銭的にも無理で出来ない人も多いだけ。意識の問題じゃないのにバカなこと言うんだな
427名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DbarrF0o0
>>423
ポテサラ買うことにすらケチをつけるジジイがはびこってるからだろ
ポテサラ買うことにすらケチをつけるジジイがはびこってるからだろ
434名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:u5Q8EtmG0
>>427
はびこってる？どこに？本当にあったかどうかもわからないあんな話よく信じられるな
はびこってる？どこに？本当にあったかどうかもわからないあんな話よく信じられるな
430名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DuOsf9Xf0
>>423
介護なんかでも同じことは言えるもんね。
基本的に杏のファンだが、今回は異議がある。
介護なんかでも同じことは言えるもんね。
基本的に杏のファンだが、今回は異議がある。
424名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ql3nXzWc02023/07/17(月) 20:15:57.88
男栄えて国滅ぶ
単に楽をしたいゴキブリハイエナでしかない。
単に楽をしたいゴキブリハイエナでしかない。
425名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1+d74/1Y02023/07/17(月) 20:17:38.23
日本の幼稚園は家の前にくるけど
小学校は歩いて一人でいくね
ほんと悲惨だよねｗ
小学校は歩いて一人でいくね
ほんと悲惨だよねｗ
429名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:G0AQf7Zs02023/07/17(月) 20:21:18.31
ここのスレだけを見て判断すればフランスに渡仏して正解だと思うよ
こんな頭ガチガチの化石が周囲にいたら生きづらいわ
シングルなら尚更
こんな頭ガチガチの化石が周囲にいたら生きづらいわ
シングルなら尚更
431名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GCGEo1nJ02023/07/17(月) 20:21:47.49
文句つけるところ探してレスしてる人が多いなぁ
うちはうち、よそはよそってスルーもあるのに
うちはうち、よそはよそってスルーもあるのに
432名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VQe+FEC502023/07/17(月) 20:22:39.40
佐々木希が同じことを言ったら叩く癖にw
435名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hSRdO3Hw0
>>432
渡部が叩かれるだけだろ
渡部が叩かれるだけだろ
444名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:t3rr66670
>>432
あの旦那また多目的トイレに籠もってんのかって言われるだけやで
あの旦那また多目的トイレに籠もってんのかって言われるだけやで
433名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NcoPlUdE02023/07/17(月) 20:24:54.38
フランスって道路に人糞が普通に落ちてんだよね
436名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bt2Rglny02023/07/17(月) 20:27:07.52
杏のファンw
437名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fr18D9gv02023/07/17(月) 20:27:41.36
一人では子育てしない
配偶者と二人でする
家庭環境ふつうだとお互いのジジババも参加するし親戚もいるし
配偶者と二人でする
家庭環境ふつうだとお互いのジジババも参加するし親戚もいるし
440名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sezxl8s302023/07/17(月) 20:28:50.38
日本の子育てってバカだよね
専門家でも何でもないのにわざわざそこまで高めてきた仕事の専門性とかすべて放棄して単価の安い子育てに注力する
そりゃ世界で勝てないわ
専門家でも何でもないのにわざわざそこまで高めてきた仕事の専門性とかすべて放棄して単価の安い子育てに注力する
そりゃ世界で勝てないわ
452名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dbdQT6SR0
>>440
日本という国の家制度はそれなりに良いものだったし、欧米真似て共働きにしようとして、少子化になってるから、これは国の仕組みやあり方自体が違うからとしか…
あちらは陸続きで移民が多い、こちらは島国で移民も少ない
日本という国の家制度はそれなりに良いものだったし、欧米真似て共働きにしようとして、少子化になってるから、これは国の仕組みやあり方自体が違うからとしか…
あちらは陸続きで移民が多い、こちらは島国で移民も少ない
442名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s1ho5BCu02023/07/17(月) 20:32:47.23
じゃ日本のシンママ達もベビーシッター頼みまくれば？
445名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:N5qp/yat02023/07/17(月) 20:36:06.76
高級住宅地では暴動ないらしいからな
449名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gZiXTIxM0
>>445
あったらしいよ
火つけられたとか
あったらしいよ
火つけられたとか
447名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3pvcCTT702023/07/17(月) 20:38:20.42
現在進行形で暴動起きて治安最悪なのになんかやたらとパリを美化した番組だったな
移民が犯罪しまくり警官が移民の少年を殺して移民が暴動起こして実質内乱状態って側面は全スルーで見てて違和感あった
移民が犯罪しまくり警官が移民の少年を殺して移民が暴動起こして実質内乱状態って側面は全スルーで見てて違和感あった
448名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yqG0b6c602023/07/17(月) 20:38:53.44
日本の場合は専業主婦文化がガンやったね。必要以上に家事子育てを高度で高尚なものとしてブランディングしちまった。おかげで若い人等は子供を生んだりとか子育てすることに躊躇するようになった。寿司まんさんは糞
451名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3pvcCTT70
>>448
ガンなのはむしろ
専業主婦＜キャリアウーマン
みたいな洗脳キャンペーンに乗り出したメディアでしょ
ガンなのはむしろ
専業主婦＜キャリアウーマン
みたいな洗脳キャンペーンに乗り出したメディアでしょ
461名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dbdQT6SR0
>>448
寿退社が多かったから、男性にも椅子があった
今は、男性と女性で椅子取りゲームする
しかも派遣社員や低賃金の労働
個人商店が減って、家庭的な企業が減ったのも一因だと思うけどね
軒並み大手の傘下に入ってマニュアル化してるから
寿退社が多かったから、男性にも椅子があった
今は、男性と女性で椅子取りゲームする
しかも派遣社員や低賃金の労働
個人商店が減って、家庭的な企業が減ったのも一因だと思うけどね
軒並み大手の傘下に入ってマニュアル化してるから
467名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UfC81p6Z0
>>461
アットホームな職場って最悪だな
アットホームな職場って最悪だな
475名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Pnv+n7yI0
>>448
昔の日本は完全分業だったかもしれない
男は外で存分働く
夜の付き合いもする
女は家のことをしっかりやる
昔の日本は完全分業だったかもしれない
男は外で存分働く
夜の付き合いもする
女は家のことをしっかりやる
しかし、今はそれが通用しなくなってる
485名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vHarqHTG0
>>475
外圧で無理矢理壊してそれで落ち目になった日本w
外圧で無理矢理壊してそれで落ち目になった日本w
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