300名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:u6AkyXA702023/07/17(月) 18:42:29.64
サレ妻
301名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QlyWJGFw02023/07/17(月) 18:42:58.66
よくわからんが無償のベビーシッターなんかね？
303名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Lj66whl+02023/07/17(月) 18:44:43.41
幸せそうだから理由なんか関係なく兎に角叩かないと死んでしまうって老害が多いのな
そら日本から逃げますわｗ
そら日本から逃げますわｗ
304名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JYvAYtXM02023/07/17(月) 18:45:25.59
しかし金あるんだな
306名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DvCUyuah02023/07/17(月) 18:46:33.52
半年前に頼んだ工事がやっと来たことを自由だと称賛するアホマツコってどうなの
347名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3I1hBQtF0
>>306
本気で称賛してると思ってんの？
本気で称賛してると思ってんの？
307名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0edNlUDt02023/07/17(月) 18:47:02.41
日本でも頼めばいいじゃん
315名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lToN2dNp0
>>307
このスレの中を見なさい
シッター反対派がこのスレ内にもいるんだよ
日本全国だったらどれくらいいるのか
このスレの中を見なさい
シッター反対派がこのスレ内にもいるんだよ
日本全国だったらどれくらいいるのか
389名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xxCzWwEp0
>>315
シッターなんて頼んだら老人に殺されかねないw
シッターなんて頼んだら老人に殺されかねないw
308名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D8dJ0eSE02023/07/17(月) 18:47:11.91
パリだと良いシッターは最低時給2000円以上、しかもシングルならほぼ毎日だろ どの家庭でも雇るはないよ
328名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:v8tzVh8/0
>>308
月に数回とかなら頼めるね
体調悪い時とか子供の用事や病院が重なった時とか
普通の人はそういうワンポイントで頼んでるんじゃないか
月に数回とかなら頼めるね
体調悪い時とか子供の用事や病院が重なった時とか
普通の人はそういうワンポイントで頼んでるんじゃないか
309名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eLyd9HX402023/07/17(月) 18:48:16.34
日本だとベビーシッター1時間で2000円〜だけど、それは国柄の違いだからなぁ
フランスとかは子供を一人で通学させられない(送迎もしくはスクールバスの利用が義務)から、ベビーシッターや児童送迎の需要が多い
需要が多いから事業としてやりやすいし、コストも下がる
日本で送迎代行なんてやっても、近場で2件も3件もまとめては無理
フランスなら一人で3人も4人もまとめて送迎できるだけの客がいるからコストが下がる、その分使い勝手が上がる
それだけの話
フランスとかは子供を一人で通学させられない(送迎もしくはスクールバスの利用が義務)から、ベビーシッターや児童送迎の需要が多い
需要が多いから事業としてやりやすいし、コストも下がる
日本で送迎代行なんてやっても、近場で2件も3件もまとめては無理
フランスなら一人で3人も4人もまとめて送迎できるだけの客がいるからコストが下がる、その分使い勝手が上がる
それだけの話
319名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jrtSM3BH0
>>309
確かに何人もまとめて世話するなら世話する側もやりやすい
日本もそういうのやれるなら良さそう
確かに何人もまとめて世話するなら世話する側もやりやすい
日本もそういうのやれるなら良さそう
314名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n0j71Kn602023/07/17(月) 18:50:06.76
仕事と子育ての両立なんて無理なのに
やれって言い出したのは誰なんだ？
やれって言い出したのは誰なんだ？
318名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GTuQoafj02023/07/17(月) 18:52:14.00
「金持ちなら当たり前～」
322名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4/Wmgz6W02023/07/17(月) 18:54:52.10
お金あるなら日本でもできるんじゃない？
323名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nuPpCmpj02023/07/17(月) 18:55:44.70
ベビーシッターの人達って自分の子供の面倒どうしてるのかな？
324名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SJ+Q7W1902023/07/17(月) 18:56:08.28
それは金があるからだろ
フランスはシンママがスタンダードかもしれんが
日本のシンママは馬鹿で金ない奴ばっかだぞ
フランスはシンママがスタンダードかもしれんが
日本のシンママは馬鹿で金ない奴ばっかだぞ
325名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LUZBgDBZ02023/07/17(月) 18:56:22.81
それって金があれば日本でも出来るだろ。
てか、低所得で働いてくれる奴隷がいるから出来るのであって
その低所得者層が今回の暴動を起こしているのだから
永久的に続くシステムではないよね。
326名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4/Wmgz6W02023/07/17(月) 18:56:36.70
こういうのってベビーシッターを信用できるのかって話にもなってくるよな
327名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rB1ZJO1l02023/07/17(月) 18:56:37.97
金持ちしかシッターを雇えないと考えているのなら
なんか色々と終わってんな
なんか色々と終わってんな
共働きでシッターを雇いたい一般家庭の人が周囲の視線を考えて躊躇ってしまうっていう件もありそう
329名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:txwqjS/802023/07/17(月) 18:56:57.20
お金あるから余裕があっていいね
日本は働いたら罰金だから
日本は働いたら罰金だから
331名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:c46exnqt02023/07/17(月) 18:57:30.57
貧乏人はみんなやってんだよ！！！
332名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ROW2Qgfb02023/07/17(月) 18:57:43.07
いつでもワンポイントで頼めて時給1000円から1700円で国の免除があってフランスの月平均２万七千円だってさ
まあ金持ちはもっと金かけれるから使用頻度は高いのかもしれんが
まあ金持ちはもっと金かけれるから使用頻度は高いのかもしれんが
333名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dhC/KEGq02023/07/17(月) 18:58:07.83
そりゃ雇える余裕あるなら誰だって頼むんだよw
何が育児環境の違いだよ
フランスだって大半はベビーシッターなんか雇わないっての
何が育児環境の違いだよ
フランスだって大半はベビーシッターなんか雇わないっての
335名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4/Wmgz6W02023/07/17(月) 18:58:48.86
ユッキーナがベビーシッター頼んでなかってっけ？
337名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1hPFHvnl02023/07/17(月) 19:00:25.46
よーしベビーシッター財源確保だ
338名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BYjvVBVW02023/07/17(月) 19:00:31.77
人種差別の酷いフランスのパリでベビーシッターは…
339名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zoJb6cEW02023/07/17(月) 19:00:46.94
日本人も金持ってるヤツは雇えよ
343名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8oZeVTk10
>>339
それなんだよなぁ
育児も介護も金で負担軽減できるならしたほうがいい
現状は妻か娘がタヒにかけながらやってるからなぁ
それなんだよなぁ
育児も介護も金で負担軽減できるならしたほうがいい
現状は妻か娘がタヒにかけながらやってるからなぁ
341名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zoM/HJqW02023/07/17(月) 19:04:21.75
ベビーシッターは何するかわからない
保育士も何するかわからない
保育士も何するかわからない
342名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mHV/2xvb02023/07/17(月) 19:05:02.99
りゅうちぇるを誹謗中傷する連中の気持ちは全く理解できないが、この人を叩く奴の気持ちはただひたすら嫉妬と妬みなんだろうなとは思う
357名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bE1BSHod0
>>342
同意
同意
344名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qJnQVC4h02023/07/17(月) 19:06:05.24
おフランスざんす
346名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JR1+YRpl02023/07/17(月) 19:07:26.36
お気持ち表明ご苦労さまです
誰かに何か言われたんか？
誰かに何か言われたんか？
348名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pULwWLLG02023/07/17(月) 19:09:28.65
丁寧な説明しないとまた馬鹿共が批判するよ杏ちゃん
大丈夫かな
大丈夫かな
356名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZnwUz27m0
>>348
説明も何もひとりでの子育ては大変だから人の手を借りましょうって言ってるじゃん
あんたみたいな理解力のない馬鹿や妬み嫉みで必死こいてる貧困層の雑魚だけだよ。批判するのは
説明も何もひとりでの子育ては大変だから人の手を借りましょうって言ってるじゃん
あんたみたいな理解力のない馬鹿や妬み嫉みで必死こいてる貧困層の雑魚だけだよ。批判するのは
349名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MwHTmSXY02023/07/17(月) 19:11:16.04
辻仁成は子供が大学生で子育てが
終って飼い犬をシッターに預けて
仕事をしてる
終って飼い犬をシッターに預けて
仕事をしてる
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