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パリ移住の3児の母・杏「私は一人では子育てしていない。無理です」「ベビーシッター頼んだりは当たり前」日本との育児環境の違いを説明

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201名無しさん@恐縮ですID:USyYsxvi02023/07/17(月) 18:08:49.60
今の60代ぐらいが引退したら日本も大工も瓦屋も足りなくなるけどな
202名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6Y3NuUs602023/07/17(月) 18:09:06.50
鈴木杏ちゃんかと思った
203名無しさん@恐縮ですID:075rboB902023/07/17(月) 18:09:13.98
日本の最近の女は他人を責める気持ちが強いし
他人を信頼する気持ちがないし他人を汚いものと思ってる傲慢なのが多いから
大切なアタシのベビタンを汚い他人なんかに任せられないと思ってるよ
246名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iu49q6Nn0
>>203
ジジイ達が仕事帰りの母親にポテサラ買ったくらいで激怒するのに、何で女が叩いてる事になってんだよ
全部を手作りしなきゃ愛情ガーだろ
204名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QN0lFZ3m02023/07/17(月) 18:09:16.36
日本人のお母さんは頑張り過ぎと言うが
フランス人は工事にも言えるようにクオリティを放棄してるってことだからな
生活環境最悪だぞ恐らく
要らぬ努力を取っ払う合理化は進めるべきだけど
そこまで真似せんでもええ
205名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZL6Qr9sg02023/07/17(月) 18:09:19.16
番組見た人ならわかると思うけど
別に日本をディスってない
日本最高ってフランス行ってわかったし
フランスはフランスの良さがあるって言ってた
208名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dAGuyBin02023/07/17(月) 18:10:37.92
子どもが1人で通学できる国は稀。
日本の方がはるかに楽に育児が出来るのに。
元夫に会わせたくないとかプライドでの選択なのかな?と思ってる。
209名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2VGxeSMX02023/07/17(月) 18:10:42.35
フランス人にとってはモテることが何よりの勲章だから、自分は絶対に住めないw
211名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G87kuXvA02023/07/17(月) 18:11:08.95
この手の煽動リベラルって半世紀前からいるけど一度もスタンダードになった試しはない
縁も所縁もない田舎に居座ってヒッピーもどきの原始生活してみたり
アメリカだオーストラリアだと理想郷妄想して現実突きつけられて逃げ帰ってきたり
212名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Wp6QYQmh02023/07/17(月) 18:11:24.36
日本でも幼女のベビーシッターやりたいおじさんは多いと思う
ぜひ有効活用するべき
213名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HLxRve0b02023/07/17(月) 18:11:38.30
女として最高ランクのポテンシャルなのに何で結婚失敗したんだろうね
不倫相手も元旦那も仕事ないならいっそあの時再婚しても一緒だったろうに
逆玉に徹してマスオさんやりきるかというとそうでもなかったし、仕事干されて自給自足とか、元旦那マジ中途半端
218名無しさん@恐縮ですID:o1XYNU+J0
>>213
えっ
216名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pBRUp+G702023/07/17(月) 18:14:11.00
何言ってんだ?
日本でもベビーシッター雇うだろ
217名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZL6Qr9sg02023/07/17(月) 18:14:13.42
元夫の現彼女が杏のインスタにいいねしてたよ
こういう風に粘着されるのが嫌なんだろうなと思った
219名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8rEhzIRN02023/07/17(月) 18:14:24.81
企業が給料上げませんからねw

日本企業の得意技はコストカット!海外移転!
結果、日本の消費力などの国力はガタ落ちに
そして今もなおその犯人が国を牛耳っています

220名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OXp0W05m02023/07/17(月) 18:14:27.86
そりゃ杏くらいになりゃ
金にもの言わしてべビーシッターを
いくらでも雇えるだろ?
221名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KgmroFyl02023/07/17(月) 18:14:35.92
自分の子供の面倒みないで遊びまくるやつ多いよね
具体的には自分の親に子供丸投げしてるやつ
自分のとこの糞姉もそうだし、周りでもそういう話ちょくちょく聞く
230名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UfC81p6Z0
>>221
杏の話と何も関係ないね
224名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VkXUB1mI02023/07/17(月) 18:16:30.42
この番組での杏は移住したことでフランスと日本それぞれいいところを再確認したと無難にまとめてた
しかしアフリカ系移民と日常茶飯事な暴動について触れないのはダメだろと思ったな
232名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OwfaCrA40
>>224
でも日本を紹介するのにチカンが日常茶飯事とか普通言わないしそんなもんじゃね
226名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UnZ+HJdO02023/07/17(月) 18:17:12.73
正直、欧米圏では家事育児は使用人(奴隷)がやるものと思っている節があるのが頂けないよね
231名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kgp2RSpX0
>>226
それを強制的に女性がやるものと刷り込んでいるのが日本やイスラム教だぞ
242名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UnZ+HJdO0
>>231
でも欧米圏や香港等でも、ベビーシッターは女性が多くない?
310名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aYrp1RF/0
>>226
香港やシンガはフィリピン人が奴隷やってるが少子化は日本よりひどい
227名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Wp6QYQmh02023/07/17(月) 18:17:34.86
フランスは出産とかぜんぜん金かからないらしいので
ベビーシッターも国の援助あんじゃないの
外国人は無理だろうけど
228名無しさん@恐縮ですID:t/93zknG02023/07/17(月) 18:18:04.14
いっぽう男は離婚して、山小屋で悠々自適生活だっけ
229名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tf2UqlFP02023/07/17(月) 18:18:37.07
杏ちゃん責めてもしゃーないでしょ
元旦那あんなだし
233名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YyW4vDb402023/07/17(月) 18:19:11.96
でもケン・ワタナベの娘という上級国民やん
236名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HVo0Vno802023/07/17(月) 18:19:56.48
子供作る人は
自分から負担かかる生き物を増やしておいて
他人に要求しまくって他人に負担を与えまくる自己中ばっかで腹立たしい

なんなら独身の特権までよこせという有様
電車バスとか映画や外食の席とか独身の方が確保しやすい訳だが
そういう特権すらよこせ(配慮しろ)と上から要求する始末

子供いるやってなんでこうも自己中なのか

247名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XaQN8jsr0
>>236
社会にお荷物の独身こなしより優遇するべきなのは当たり前だと思うが
255名無しさん@恐縮ですID:phBF1q8D0
>>247
人口過多で
人にも環境にも負担あたえまくってる出生害獣とはちゃうねん
人口大杉なんじゃ
276名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/YDsV/mF0
>>255
地球的にはそうでも日本社会的にはそれじゃマズイだろ
国力も益々落ちる一方
237名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TwYSJ62802023/07/17(月) 18:21:02.07
東出から養育費ふんだくれ
搾り取ってやれ
あ、稼ぎがないのか能無し野郎だからなw
239名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZGtARy+s02023/07/17(月) 18:21:20.83
時給1200円で働いて時給2000円のシッター雇ってたらばかみたいじゃね?
243名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NmIpOx1G02023/07/17(月) 18:22:15.56
別に日本でもシッター雇えるでしょ
仲里依紗のYou Tube見てるとシッターのアチャコの話が度々出てくるしw
248名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nd0Ps77K0
>>243
普通にやとえるよ
うちの会社でも繁忙期はシッター使ってる女性もざら
244名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D8dJ0eSE02023/07/17(月) 18:23:19.81
当たり前みたいに言うな 金が有ればそうなるよ
249名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lUejzpbb02023/07/17(月) 18:25:07.32
子無しのおまえらには意見する権利すらないぞ?
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