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ファイターズ移転後の「札幌ドーム」総事業費10億円の減収対策 “新モード” いまだ利用ゼロ…札幌市民「もったいない、税金が」

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500名無しさん@恐縮ですID:r42LBzSA02023/07/01(土) 20:54:19.26
札幌市には色々がっかりされっぱなしだよ石狩か江別に引っ越そうと思う。ふるさと納税をガンガンやってる。
503名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lohjgZSp02023/07/01(土) 20:57:11.06
何を思ったか札幌ドームでスキーのジャンプ台を設置して、大倉山で行なわれるスキーのワールドカップの会場を札幌ドームに誘致しようという動きがあったら笑える。
507名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>503
ははは ネタにしても出来が悪いwww そんなバカなんて札幌市役所員くらいしかいないだろwww
533名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6Iw9Z/ia0
>>503
過去に甲子園・後楽園でジャンプ大会を開いているけど、札ドだと高さが足りない
825名無しさん@恐縮ですID:j8TcVlLj0
>>503
札ドにそのサイズの設置は無理、出来て飛距離30mぐらい
504名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/CQz6Bt402023/07/01(土) 20:59:34.24
暗幕垂らして新モードって発想がもう…で、10億?これ絶対天下りジジイの懐に入ってるだろ。五輪もこれだろ?ジジイどもが愛人に使う金集めのためだろ?札幌終わってんな
505名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IQDlKn+v02023/07/01(土) 21:01:07.56
市長を選んだのは札幌市民
税金での補填を許可したのと同じ
509名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ELOprtjs02023/07/01(土) 21:10:12.70
GLAYとかドリカムとか北海道ゆかりあるアーティストに声かけたりはしてないのかな
あからさまに客席減らした会場は無理って断られたかな
510名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UA+BahED0
602名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0YqX7IUa0
>>510
ドリカムっ4年に1度でのドームツアーだけど、他のドームは2日間やるのに札幌ドームだけ1日なんだよな。お察し
511名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>509
もしお願いするならフルモードで是非ってやるべきだな
ロハでいいですから代りに派手にお願いしますって
暗幕バージョンはビッグネームには侮辱でしかないわな 作戦が全て勘違いしてる
606名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0YqX7IUa0
>>509
GLAYのTERUはエスコンで始球式したいって宣言してるんだよな
エスコンの始球式のついでにさっきドームでコンサートしてくれるといいなw
512名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S2Luj+mw02023/07/01(土) 21:19:41.11
札幌市「日ハムドーム売った金で25,000人収容のサッカースタジアム建てます」

これでみんなハッピーだったのにでも選挙で勝てたからええのか

513名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LLZoBZkz02023/07/01(土) 21:21:35.72
日ハムが出ていくことが決まった時点でニュースとしては昇天してるので、もう追い込みしなくていいじゃん
516名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>513
ジャーニー喜多川事務所みたいで草
517名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UA+BahED0
>>513
そこからさらに5年間で900万円の黒字とか
暗幕+機材に10億円かけて「新モード」(予約ゼロ)とか
札幌ドームがコンスタントにネタを提供してくれるから。
519名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>517
10億円=札幌市持ち
札幌ドーム・来季からの5年で黒字想定900万円=0.09億円

な…何を言っているのかわからねーと思うが
おれも何を言っていたのかわからなかった…

頭がどうにかなりそうだった…
ペラッペラの人工芝だとか観衆2万人超えたら追加料金だとか
そんなチャチなもんじゃあ断じてねえ

もっと恐ろしいものの片鱗を味わったぜ…

541名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hm86rJBB0
>>513
地元テレビ局が現状をニュースとして扱うのは当然だろ
514名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+kibkT2N02023/07/01(土) 21:23:46.05
看板スポンサーないからどうやっても赤字やで
負の遺産や
515名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fa/+ESpn02023/07/01(土) 21:24:45.16
一度潰して別の施設作れば良い
時代に合わせていけ
518名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9u23bXLi02023/07/01(土) 21:29:24.93
赤字垂れ流しでも選挙に負けないなら誰も責任とらないよ
523名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fa/+ESpn0
>>518
道民が好きで税金払ってるなら文句のつけようはないな
520名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Aer4Gf2E02023/07/01(土) 21:34:36.90
こんなイメージ悪い場所を使いたい所あるのかな
521名無しさん@恐縮ですID:z+Ewnbz702023/07/01(土) 21:38:24.58
お前らくやしいのうwwww

一方、約2万3千人の札幌市職員に支給されたボーナスも増額となり、平均69万3000円で2022年より1万4000円増額となりました。
秋元市長も2022年より4万8000円増額の、約313万8000円となりました。

525名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>521
情報ありがとう
札ドスレで毎回貼られるかもなw ( ´∀`)bグッ!
526名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>521
情報ありがとう
札ドスレで毎回貼られるかもなw ( ´∀`)bグッ!
524名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1dcUAGGs02023/07/01(土) 21:41:54.47
札幌ドーム解体派の市長や市議を当選させないと札幌市がヤバい?
528名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kOJXswwF0
>>524
そういう部分で攻めてくるのだと共産党推薦候補とかしか選択肢なさそう
札幌ドーム解体で少しプラスになっても、余計なものまで解体して大マイナスの未来が
529名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1b+qCxVq02023/07/01(土) 21:48:43.54
Jリーグ本日のスタジアム稼働率

鹿 島 16353人 42.3%
新 潟 19064人 45.1%
名古屋 25560人 57.6%
横浜FC 10340人 67.0%
FC東京 20571人 41.2%
神 戸 27630人 94.2% イニエスタラスト?
鳥 栖 11224人 45.8%

530名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1b+qCxVq0
>>529
どうなんだ?
客入りが良いようには思えない
コロナから回復してないのか?
534名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>529
おお!コンサが2戦続けて2.5万越えwwwwww

いやイニエスタ日本最終戦だからだわwww残念

537名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IiM08J+E0
>>529
野球に長年喧嘩を売り
週一(月2回)でしかやらないのにこれって
ホントショボいよな
538名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1b+qCxVq0
>>529
Jリーグ規約 スタジアム条件
※座席は完全セパレート。芝生席は不可
J1 15000席以上
J2 10000席以上
J3 5000席以上

ハッキリ言う。地方は10000席で十分
カテゴリーなんて関係ない
小さいマーケットに合わせた基準で十分だ
五千席でも稼げるシステムで頑張るしかない
何が三万人のだよwwwwwwwww

539名無しさん@恐縮ですID:F/uxWQgy0
>>529
天気が悪いからしゃーない
547名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>539
NPBのファンは雨でもカッパ着て観戦してますよ?
週二で雨でもプレーするって話なのにお客さん来ないの?
543名無しさん@恐縮ですID:12d41Q2c0
>>529
やっぱ税リーグってクソだわ
545名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1b+qCxVq0
>>529
プロ野球本日のスタジアム稼働率

巨 人 41007人 94.3%
横 浜 32982人 96.9%
ヤクルト29077人 93.9%
エスコン30576人 98.3% 稼働率No.1オメ!
ロッテ 25370人 84.3%
西 武 27548人 87.3%

Jリーグのライバルはバスケットボール
プロ野球ではありません。悪しからず

548名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eVyqFM3+0
>>545
伝統の一戦の東京ドームよりも収容率高くて草
549名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1b+qCxVq0
>>545
間違いなくWBC効果
今年は若者や女性が球場に詰め掛けている
559名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6od1pftO0
>>549
スレチかも知れんけど、だから8村はバスケのWCに出なアカンのよ。
バスケ知らん人でもWCのワンチャンでいいとこ行ったら、それだけで興味持ってアリーナに足運ぶんやって。
642名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WMMtC2QR0
>>545
野球凄えな
満員ばかりやん
583名無しさん@恐縮ですID:L43UO6UL0
>>529
プレミアとか海外リーグ見れる時代に Jリーグとか見ないもんな
639名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2F29d4gR0
>>529
鳥栖はBSでやってたので少し見た
中継では70%くらい入ってるように思ったんだけど45%だったのか
NHKのカメラマンの技術すごいとしか言えん
要するに客がいないスタンドは撮してないんだよな

それと三ツ沢でもやってたらしいけどハマスタの1/3か

税リーグ最盛期の横浜ダービーとか家から歓声が聞こえてたのに
このスレ見るまでやってたの知らんかったわ

682名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7vedfU9I0
>>639
はい、掲載者てすが嘘はなし
クラブ発表のデータに基づいております
空席を映さない技術は日本テレビがピカ一(笑)
一時期、空席だらけだったんですよ。読売
カメラを切り替えたりCG多用したりて(笑)

今は何処の球団も独立採算で自ら稼ぐ
それ故に数字の誤魔化しも減ったように思います
観客数を偽って苦しむのは自分達ですからね

プロ野球の観衆が伸びたのは球団努力の結果
オリックス、ヤクルト、広島、ロッテ
不人気と言われた球団の躍進が大きいです
数字操作が疑われるJリーグ。。。改革が必要
特にJリーグ規約が問題だと感じています

531名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JgE/Y1S202023/07/01(土) 21:51:32.49
焼き豚の札幌ドームへの憎悪は異常
やっぱ日ハムがコンサドーレに負けて札幌から追い出されて僻地に都落ちしたことでプライドが傷つけられたのかな
532名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3mefelsD02023/07/01(土) 21:52:05.62
蝦夷ドームワラタ
535名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qR+VGmz202023/07/01(土) 21:57:00.71
FC東京 20571人
ZOZOマリン 25370人

FC東京ってロッテ以下なんだな

536名無しさん@恐縮ですID:k7zLefoP02023/07/01(土) 21:57:42.34
市長は自分のお金だったらこの10億出すのかね?
そういうとこだぞ
540名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IiM08J+E02023/07/01(土) 21:59:22.92
よっぽど条件が良くないと2万人超えるのもないんだろうな
542名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VWPl9jb202023/07/01(土) 22:02:17.55
早く更地にして残金150億+10億+解体費用
ぐらいの金額であの土地を売ればいい。
買い手がいれば
544名無しさん@恐縮ですID:b2to6H+W02023/07/01(土) 22:05:29.32
北広島がアクセス悪いってのは札幌の人の目線なんかな
都内からだとエスコンのが行きやすい
550名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IAls2NAm0
>>544
都内だけじゃない
北海道内もエスコンのほうが行きやすい人多数
827名無しさん@恐縮ですID:j8TcVlLj0
>>550
何なら札幌市民すら地下鉄民以外はエスコンのアクセス悪くないとか
834名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Y/4vClHz0
>>827
札幌Dの地下鉄利用客
下車して坂道を歩く
約10分(大人)~25分(子供、高齢者)
さらに球場の階段
最悪だね
546名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IfE05SzY02023/07/01(土) 22:08:38.52
更地にしてエスコンフィールドとの直通バスを開通させて宿泊施設を大量に作ればいい
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