551名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mMrm1CvL02023/07/01(土) 22:12:06.54
何でわざわざ4万人入るキャパなのに半分にしようとするのかわからんのやけど
ライブする側なら人数たくさん入ったほうがいいからわざわざ2万人設定にするなんてあり得るの？
ライブする側なら人数たくさん入ったほうがいいからわざわざ2万人設定にするなんてあり得るの？
553名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz0
>>551
だて4万人なんて早々埋まらないんだものｗ
だて4万人なんて早々埋まらないんだものｗ
554名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UA+BahED0
>>551
同じ観客２万人でも、満員の２万人と、すかすかの２万人では
モチベーションやオプティクスへの影響が違いすぎる。
それに常識的にはキャパ２万人の施設の方が使用料もはるかに安あがり。
同じ観客２万人でも、満員の２万人と、すかすかの２万人では
モチベーションやオプティクスへの影響が違いすぎる。
それに常識的にはキャパ２万人の施設の方が使用料もはるかに安あがり。
560名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WfqBcXDk0
>>551
でっかいドームでライブしたっていう人気の目安になるから価値があるのに
ライブ客が何人入ったかとか発表しないだろう
わざわざ2万人モードとか作ってどうするんだと
単に2万人の会場で知らしめるだけ
でっかいドームでライブしたっていう人気の目安になるから価値があるのに
ライブ客が何人入ったかとか発表しないだろう
わざわざ2万人モードとか作ってどうするんだと
単に2万人の会場で知らしめるだけ
武道館 収容人数 実際 入った数
東京ドーム 収容人数 実際 入った数
差異があろうとも 会場のでかさで人気を測る
667名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:N/VQfNZw0
>>551
費用が問題では？
費用が問題では？
555名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aZC/u7s002023/07/01(土) 22:18:03.68
やっぱりボールパークに大学来るんだってな
前沢さんがいくつか話があるんだって
こりゃもう新駅は間違いないでしょ
前沢さんがいくつか話があるんだって
こりゃもう新駅は間違いないでしょ
666名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+SdOIAv10
>>555
バカ大学はもういらんよ。
バカ大学はもういらんよ。
828名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j8TcVlLj0
>>555
星槎道都大のキャンパスとかアリだな
星槎道都大のキャンパスとかアリだな
557名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jEdIOebw02023/07/01(土) 22:21:47.43
札幌市民が選んだ選択だから仕方ないわな。
アホ市長と一緒に沈んでいけ札幌ドーム。
アホ市長と一緒に沈んでいけ札幌ドーム。
558名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SuslynPN02023/07/01(土) 22:23:58.56
10億あったら解体した方が良かったな
562名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uAVoZ+do02023/07/01(土) 22:27:18.49
ライブでのグッズや飲食物の売上は札幌ドームに帰属する
565名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qH6hodvr0
>>562
そんな事したら来ないよ
そもそもライブ客はそんなに飲食しないし
アイドルだとアルコール禁止だしな
そんな事したら来ないよ
そもそもライブ客はそんなに飲食しないし
アイドルだとアルコール禁止だしな
564名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:L9jOMA0v02023/07/01(土) 22:34:46.03
札幌市は札幌ドームを日ハムに売ればよかったとは思ってないよな(笑)
571名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gXF2GOsz02023/07/01(土) 23:05:19.37
ぐふっｗ この自演は大作戦の一端なのかｗ
572名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tD5VPi0S02023/07/01(土) 23:05:42.43
そもそも箱物は利権な奴等が儲けて終わる定め、、建設を許可した段階で終わってる。
573名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3Cvvtv2m02023/07/01(土) 23:07:43.89
埼玉スーパーアリーナは分割して成功しまくってるじゃん。単純に札幌で開催しても経費も掛かるし客も来ないってだけの話だろ
575名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fyFWBrrS0
>>573
そもそもさいたまスーパーアリーナは音響面含めてアリーナモードとスタジアムモードできちんと計算されてるだろ
そもそもさいたまスーパーアリーナは音響面含めてアリーナモードとスタジアムモードできちんと計算されてるだろ
584名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VcAvkYjT0
>>573
さいたまスーパーアリーナをあんなちゃちな暗幕と一緒にしちゃダメ
さいたまスーパーアリーナをあんなちゃちな暗幕と一緒にしちゃダメ
576名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OpXciCv402023/07/01(土) 23:15:48.36
コミケと音楽フェスと全国うまいもの祭りを誘致すべし
683名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vG7R9giv0
>>576
それとストリップショーな
それとストリップショーな
577名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uqWpIste02023/07/01(土) 23:20:17.41
もう1チーム野球チーム 増やせばいいんじゃね
578名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uqWpIste02023/07/01(土) 23:24:12.21
にしてもあれだな
エスコンでコンサートを見に行きたいな っていうのはあっても札幌ドームとかなんか予想つきすぎてワクワク感が足りないんだよな
あの閉塞感が致命的すぎるよな
ただ ドーム だから 冬のスポーツには向いてると思うけど
例えば アイスホッケーやバスケットボール
サッカーも
あと ボクシングのタイトルマッチみたいなのもいいかもしれないけどね
東京でやればいいもの わざわざ 北海道でやるかっていう問題もあるよな
とりあえず野球からはそっぽを向かれちゃったわけだから模索してくしかないわな
エスコンでコンサートを見に行きたいな っていうのはあっても札幌ドームとかなんか予想つきすぎてワクワク感が足りないんだよな
あの閉塞感が致命的すぎるよな
ただ ドーム だから 冬のスポーツには向いてると思うけど
例えば アイスホッケーやバスケットボール
サッカーも
あと ボクシングのタイトルマッチみたいなのもいいかもしれないけどね
東京でやればいいもの わざわざ 北海道でやるかっていう問題もあるよな
とりあえず野球からはそっぽを向かれちゃったわけだから模索してくしかないわな
580名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7PFtWUFk0
>>578
札ドは売店が不味そうでワクワク感ゼロなんよ
エスコンでコンサートやるなら見に行きたい
札ドは売店が不味そうでワクワク感ゼロなんよ
エスコンでコンサートやるなら見に行きたい
586名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PjwMrMtu0
>>580
火を使えるエスコン
火を使えない札幌D
↓
エスコンの食事は楽しめるね
人気店も多い
火を使えるエスコン
火を使えない札幌D
↓
エスコンの食事は楽しめるね
人気店も多い
605名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jhFBA21W0
>>586
火が使えないのか
電気だけだと焼き物は壊滅的や
麺類、揚げ物、鉄板調理しかできんから提供できるものは限られる
火が使えないのか
電気だけだと焼き物は壊滅的や
麺類、揚げ物、鉄板調理しかできんから提供できるものは限られる
608名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Og2SHVJN0
>>605
言うて焼き鳥だとか直火必要な物は限られるでしょ
アリオだろうがイオンだろうがフードコートなんかも裸火調理出来ないところ結構あるし
あ、レストランは炭火使えるところあるけども
言うて焼き鳥だとか直火必要な物は限られるでしょ
アリオだろうがイオンだろうがフードコートなんかも裸火調理出来ないところ結構あるし
あ、レストランは炭火使えるところあるけども
625名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XcYNmdIc0
>>608
エスコンの串鳥はガス遠赤グリルで焼いてるっぽいな
エスコンの串鳥はガス遠赤グリルで焼いてるっぽいな
581名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:L43UO6UL0
>>578
ボクシングは地元選手でもないとやらないだろうな～
チケット取れないって言われてた嵐でも 札幌だけは取れたからうちの嫁子供が旅行しつつ行ってきたからな
ボクシングは地元選手でもないとやらないだろうな～
チケット取れないって言われてた嵐でも 札幌だけは取れたからうちの嫁子供が旅行しつつ行ってきたからな
579名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FPSTerlk02023/07/01(土) 23:24:32.87
582名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zE4GrY0+02023/07/02(日) 00:06:19.82
交流戦が終わっても大入り満員のエスコン
サカ豚の当てが外れててワロス
サカ豚の当てが外れててワロス
585名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XMeuWl1V02023/07/02(日) 00:22:23.88
そもそもJリーグはシーズン中ホームで2週間に1試合
野球と試合数が違い過ぎるから、サッカーで採算が取れない致命的欠点を自覚してなかったのかな
野球と試合数が違い過ぎるから、サッカーで採算が取れない致命的欠点を自覚してなかったのかな
587名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zQ8s0Gcf02023/07/02(日) 00:25:37.19
第三セクターの箱物運営なんか上手くいくわけない
というか職員1人も本気で黒字にしようなんて思ってないでしょ
むしろ日ハムが出ていって仕事が減って助かったぐらい思ってるんじゃないかな
養うのは札幌市民なんで頑張ってくれ
というか職員1人も本気で黒字にしようなんて思ってないでしょ
むしろ日ハムが出ていって仕事が減って助かったぐらい思ってるんじゃないかな
養うのは札幌市民なんで頑張ってくれ
588名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AT2U9WzN02023/07/02(日) 00:28:37.17
あれに10億とかすげーな
ただの黒幕
ただの黒幕
591名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gXg8mPFr0
>>588
3月 発表時は4億だったんだぞ
6月 発表時で10億になった
3月 発表時は4億だったんだぞ
6月 発表時で10億になった
733名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AT2U9WzN0
>>591
見積もりガバガバだなあ
見積もりガバガバだなあ
590名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LxO/8PkC02023/07/02(日) 00:29:20.04
強欲の結果逃げられてこのザマ
592名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:W9lUTuZ702023/07/02(日) 00:33:03.86
自分とこの物件が必要不可欠だと思い込んだツケやろなぁ
593名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:h9OBkDSp02023/07/02(日) 00:37:39.06
頼りの綱だった嵐のコンサートも見込めないもんなw
大体、地下鉄はドーム直結でいいのに福住から歩かせるのがアホ
金落とさせるたって誰があの距離で買い物すんの？
かえってゾロゾロ歩く歩行者で道路激混みアホちゃうか
大体、地下鉄はドーム直結でいいのに福住から歩かせるのがアホ
金落とさせるたって誰があの距離で買い物すんの？
かえってゾロゾロ歩く歩行者で道路激混みアホちゃうか
598名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kOfH73DB0
>>593
嵐のコンサートなくなって近隣住民はホッとしてる
地下鉄乗れなくなるし降りれなくなるし迷惑だった
嵐のコンサートなくなって近隣住民はホッとしてる
地下鉄乗れなくなるし降りれなくなるし迷惑だった
594名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:W9lUTuZ702023/07/02(日) 00:40:37.41
バンテリンドームもどっかと喧嘩して廃れてくれんかね
595名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LR0Nk3n602023/07/02(日) 00:42:36.19
税金上げて回収すればいいよ
596名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BQDjbn+302023/07/02(日) 00:44:41.69
https://i.imgur.com/dQozZ1F.png
597名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:obo5MuVK02023/07/02(日) 00:48:08.52
文化祭の高校生以下の企画力で草
金ドブもいいところだな
金ドブもいいところだな
599名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3VPEQxQC02023/07/02(日) 00:54:05.63
本州の人が
ｺﾝｻｰﾄで札幌迄こねーよ
大阪 福岡 名古屋はいくけど
ｺﾝｻｰﾄで札幌迄こねーよ
大阪 福岡 名古屋はいくけど
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I urge you steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was nothing but frustration and suspicion of fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a more reputable site for your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it was only frustration and concerns regarding scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or even better, seek out a more reputable site to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was purely disappointment and suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, seek out a more reputable platform to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you stay away from this site. The experience I had with it was only dismay as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, find a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise to avoid this site. My personal experience with it has been nothing but disappointment and suspicion of deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, look for a trustworthy service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it was nothing but disappointment as well as doubts about fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, seek out a more reputable site for your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it has been purely frustration as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, find a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.
I urge you steer clear of this site. My personal experience with it was only disappointment as well as suspicion of deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, find a trustworthy service for your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My personal experience with it was only frustration and doubts about deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, look for a more reputable platform for your needs.