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ファイターズ移転後の「札幌ドーム」総事業費10億円の減収対策 “新モード” いまだ利用ゼロ…札幌市民「もったいない、税金が」

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300名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OLBA1GSl02023/07/01(土) 17:19:15.82
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302DoN(・Д・)ID:3XngDLaC02023/07/01(土) 17:21:16.63
利用費半額キャンペーンやって
坂道シリーズを誘致しろ
303名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8hWyZKx602023/07/01(土) 17:24:03.02
キャンプでもできるようにしたらどうよ
北海道って海=キャンプみたいだけど街中でもキャンプ場になれば金払うんじゃない
球場に泊まれるのはやってみたい
326名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d0rHbaaF0
>>303
問題は冬なんだよ北海道の場合
330名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iaEH2zcw0
>>303
すでに募集中だぞ
https://www.fighters.co.jp/news/detail/202300368884.html
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306名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXTUUyJB02023/07/01(土) 17:28:58.98
10億って何回半面使用したらペイできるの?
315名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cesvkg0e0
>>306
利用料+設営撤去料金×2で440万円
ありえないけどこれが全部儲けになって暗幕に今後金がかからないなら200回くらいやれば元が取れるんだろう多分
307名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sZX4bO1o02023/07/01(土) 17:30:13.35
なんか変だな
308名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8hWyZKx602023/07/01(土) 17:30:27.65
10億の暗幕ってなんだよ
ほかにどこに使ったのか
309名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nsuBPPCE02023/07/01(土) 17:31:11.73
暗幕10億バカすぎる
幕だから音は響かないし、箱が埋まらないと自白してるわけだし、
何より近くに交通のベンのいい箱があるし
311名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MIOfXOIC02023/07/01(土) 17:33:53.06
すまん
暗幕になんで10億もかかるの?
313名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TBn2wWQE0
>>311
3億くらいは音響機器
312名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SAHcJOFy02023/07/01(土) 17:34:41.77
音響悪いしコンサートにも使えんしな
314名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Bn+0hgeb02023/07/01(土) 17:35:35.34
大谷翔平に買い取ってもらえよ
316名無しさん@恐縮ですID:c8L3bfaj02023/07/01(土) 17:36:35.91
解体してイオンでも誘致したら
317名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YWRZN3Vc02023/07/01(土) 17:38:29.68
暗幕下ろしてばんえいけいばでもやれは儲かるでしょ
318名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S+batXYY02023/07/01(土) 17:38:30.18
エスコンに月一で行ってるけど、開幕こそ酷かったが今は混乱しなくなったよ。
行ったこともない奴がネットで未だに開幕戦のような状況を語っているのはドーム関係者が何かか?
319名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TF7Geyfp02023/07/01(土) 17:40:44.19
自衛隊の駐屯地
320名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZQiLazyI02023/07/01(土) 17:40:52.80
振られたのに粘着して必死でしょ
321名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LI+xNf5d02023/07/01(土) 17:41:29.20
北海道にある

野球場

すべて赤字だろ

324名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nskeLau70
>>321
札幌ドームは日本ハムのおかげで黒字だった
コンサでは黒字にできない
これがすべてw
322名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LmPiUNRz02023/07/01(土) 17:41:44.72
369名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1b+qCxVq0
>>322
赤黒フェスタwith招待券1万枚

軽くブッチされますた!

570名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C2Wr9/CD0
>>369
実質100万円ってのは1試合あたりね。
800万円も取られて辛いってなんだよ。

しかも、練習場やクラブハウスもおねだりだよな。

323名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LI+xNf5d02023/07/01(土) 17:42:36.52
スタルヒン球場

旭川

赤字

325名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KmugQVpE02023/07/01(土) 17:44:56.22
しかし札幌ドームの職員なら懇意のアーティストの一組や二組いてもおかしくないのにそれすらいないとはね…
新モードこけら落としで多少なりとも報道陣も来るだろうに…
332名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cesvkg0e0
>>325
というかこれだけ大掛かりな改装するからには前もって使ってもらう予定があると思うよな普通
作ってみたけど誰も使ってくれないよーって小学生の工作かよ
327名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lvBAocta02023/07/01(土) 17:48:03.82
札幌市の役人が後はやる事と言ったら、腹いせにJR北海道に圧力かけてエスコンそばの新駅設置させないようにしてくだけだろう
328名無しさん@恐縮ですID:81T3g/jr02023/07/01(土) 17:48:30.94
税金チューチュートレイン
329名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LI+xNf5d02023/07/01(土) 17:49:35.65
北海道にある野球場

60か所

全部赤字www

402名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TBn2wWQE0
>>329
日本にあるサッカー場全部大赤字らしいな
406名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1Ykb6l/s0
>>402
日ハムがエスコンに避難したおかけで
晴れて全サッカースタジアムが赤字に…w
331名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Fq1rC4Xj02023/07/01(土) 17:50:23.20
今日エスコン3万かよ、オリックス戦ですげえな
どうせ交流戦阪神戦しか入らない!って悔しがってた奴…
344名無しさん@恐縮ですID:un1o3Jm10
>>331
Fチケ明日の試合と8日からのロッテ戦と11日からの楽天戦は全て「残りわずか」になつてる
333名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3QoZUIuE02023/07/01(土) 17:51:13.65
最近部下へのビジネス戦略教育で、この札幌ドーム案件を題材にし始めたんだけど

STP
3C
SWOT
5F

どの分析方法を使っても札幌ドームわオワコンってことになるんだよね
まぁ役人にはこんな簡単なアプローチもできんかったかもね
頼んだコンサルも身内の人間繋がりの碌でもない輩だったのかな
まぁ後一年もすれば、遅ればせながらの二束三文な身売り、最悪は取り壊しに向けた議論が開始されると思いますよ
いつの時代も役人ってクソばかりですね

697名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sFsyfBCr0
>>333
公務員に転職して思ったのが、実はなにもしない公務員が一番損害を与えない。
そのくらい事業に向いてない連中の集団。
黙ってインフラの維持管理とごみ回収だけしとけばいい。間違っても儲けようなんてさせちゃいけない。
まあ、もう民間に戻ったから知らんけど。
334名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Fq1rC4Xj02023/07/01(土) 17:51:45.12
野球場がーって発狂しても札幌ドームは想定上回る赤字確定w
サッカーでは何の役にも立たない
335名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Bo1BXR4A02023/07/01(土) 17:52:06.17
いつもどおりJリーグクラブの独占するスタジアムと市民が利用する野球場を一緒くたにするサカ豚か出てきたな
日本語が苦手なのか現実を認めたくないのかどちらなのか
341名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LmPiUNRz0
>>335
土日の週1試合と平日ナイター3連戦含む週6日の平均を比べようとするような連中だからな。
まぁ、それでも野球の方が上だがw
348名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4A9A79kJ0
>>335
サポーターあるある「コピペ攻撃」
コンササポはこういうところ気持ち悪いよなあ
野々村自体がハムとのコラボオファー拒否したぐらいだから
コンササポも野球批判コピペとエスコン批判に明け暮れる
336名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lYnEXN6+02023/07/01(土) 17:52:18.39
円山球場も赤字
337名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lYnEXN6+02023/07/01(土) 17:53:03.06
札幌

麻生球場も

赤字www

野球場赤字まみれwww

338名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PwlN8yZY02023/07/01(土) 17:53:45.71
コンサって土曜日でも1万しか入らないのに必死にタダ券配った日よりエスコンのほうが客入ってるのなw
339名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lYnEXN6+02023/07/01(土) 17:53:47.13
円山球場

赤字ww

340名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PwlN8yZY02023/07/01(土) 17:55:03.25
サカ豚発狂w
プロ野球の使う球場はペイできてるのに
Jリーグの使うスタジアムは赤字まみれの現実
342名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lYnEXN6+02023/07/01(土) 17:56:23.27
札幌麻生球場

グラウンド

両翼92m

センター111m

観客席収容人数

12,000人

www赤字だろ

麻生庭球場

343名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lYnEXN6+02023/07/01(土) 17:57:17.58
北海道のすべての野球場

赤字だろwwwwww

バカしかいない

345名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cifTKFBy02023/07/01(土) 17:58:57.10
2万だってライブのキャパとしてはでかいのに、暗幕でムリに狭くした感があって
専用ホールのような音響も期待できないなら、よほど単発の需要しかありえんわな
346名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JuTfGByw02023/07/01(土) 17:58:57.92
札幌ドーム関連でサカ豚が顔真っ赤になるのはやはりコンサドーレと日本ハムの残酷なまでの差が浮き彫りになっちゃうからなんだろうな
八百坂もそれわかってるから喜んでスレ立てちゃう
んでサカ豚が発狂してスレを伸ばすw
347名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2B2bn2RB02023/07/01(土) 17:59:59.57
またEggが発作を起こしたようだな。
349名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LmPiUNRz02023/07/01(土) 18:00:22.46
エスコンには敵わない事が分かって発狂しちゃったのかな

麻生球場ってほぼ毎日使われてるなぁ
https://www.sapporo-sport.jp/asabu/calendar/

354名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4A9A79kJ0
>>349
その野球場は市民のためにほぼ毎日フル回転なのに
ガンバの立派な専用スタジアムとかガンバの試合しかいつもやってない
来月とか31日あってガンバ戦1試合だけ どっちが市民の役に立ってるのか
355名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vTgxaSSZ0
>>349
土日祝はもちろん平日も半分以上埋まってるというね。
公共設備を謳うなら本来こうではないとな
https://www.sapporo-sport.jp/asabu/calendar/
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