350名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:asRVfoEY02023/07/01(土) 18:00:24.43
プロのスタジアムとアマチュアを混同してるアホがおるな
352名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FFpCUWQD0
>>350
何べん言っても分からんやつは放置でよし
何べん言っても分からんやつは放置でよし
399名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:75UOczv70
>>350
そういうのなら自治体に依存しないで自分達でスタジアムを作るべき
自治体に作らせてプロしか使わないで何が文化だ
民間の裾野が広がってこその文化
そういうのなら自治体に依存しないで自分達でスタジアムを作るべき
自治体に作らせてプロしか使わないで何が文化だ
民間の裾野が広がってこその文化
351名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vLxqguDq02023/07/01(土) 18:01:29.35
ID変えて空白改行しまくって発狂とか
どんだけ悔しがってんだよサカ豚w
どんだけ悔しがってんだよサカ豚w
コンサドーレとかいう不人気のつまんねえクラブのせいで赤字なんだよ
よく頭に入れとけよ
353名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IYpq+y8502023/07/01(土) 18:03:28.40
背の低い見るからに安物の、薄ッペライカーテンを吊り下げて10憶円っていう根拠は?
殆どがお役所仕事だからと、中抜きされているでしょう?ｗ
、
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、
356名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cesvkg0e02023/07/01(土) 18:05:20.74
今回の件では札幌ドームが頭わるわるなだけで一般的なスタジアムの話をしてるわけでもないんだし
コンサドーレは関係ないと高をくくってればいいのにな
なんでわざわざスレ開いて発狂するんだ？イライラしてないと死ぬ病気なのか
コンサドーレは関係ないと高をくくってればいいのにな
なんでわざわざスレ開いて発狂するんだ？イライラしてないと死ぬ病気なのか
362名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LWGrBJ/L0
>>356
札幌ドームだけではなくJリーグ如きで天然芝の維持すら出来るとかない
ワールドカップのスタジアムで札幌ドーム以外は全て赤字だったからな
札幌ドームだけではなくJリーグ如きで天然芝の維持すら出来るとかない
ワールドカップのスタジアムで札幌ドーム以外は全て赤字だったからな
381名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MbgCC34B0
>>356
まぁ結局サッカーのための天然芝が悪いわけでサカ豚もそら発狂するよ
まぁ結局サッカーのための天然芝が悪いわけでサカ豚もそら発狂するよ
357名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZQiLazyI02023/07/01(土) 18:06:20.09
覚悟決めてサッカー専用にしなさい
358名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1FaWT0gE02023/07/01(土) 18:07:44.45
4万人入れる箱なのにカーテンで無理やり狭くしました
アーティストにとっては4万埋めれないのを自白してるようなもので屈辱です
適当にカーテンで仕切っただけなので音響クソです
ちなみにカーテン作るのに6億かかりました
なお予約数はいまだゼロです
アーティストにとっては4万埋めれないのを自白してるようなもので屈辱です
適当にカーテンで仕切っただけなので音響クソです
ちなみにカーテン作るのに6億かかりました
なお予約数はいまだゼロです
無能の極みじゃん
359名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+uLQb6N/02023/07/01(土) 18:08:59.63
10億かける前に需要の調査しろや
暗幕は音響とか印象的にマイナスなのは想像くらいつくだろ
暗幕は音響とか印象的にマイナスなのは想像くらいつくだろ
360名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YSxBKXFx02023/07/01(土) 18:09:32.01
国や地方自治体などの公務員が絡むとろくなことにならないことの典型だなぁ…
ファイターズに枕営業仕掛けるしかないな。札幌の美男子求む
ファイターズに枕営業仕掛けるしかないな。札幌の美男子求む
361名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lhtOURhW02023/07/01(土) 18:10:32.44
公務員「俺たちは痛くねえからｗｗｗ」
363名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vEegXWCy02023/07/01(土) 18:12:24.80
ｶﾜｲｿｽ
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364名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:m8s09gsm02023/07/01(土) 18:13:33.46
野球は日本を潤わせ
サッカーは日本を衰退させる
サッカーは日本を衰退させる
税リーグの30年＝失われた30年
これでバカにでもわかっただろ
367名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:L9jOMA0v02023/07/01(土) 18:19:41.66
今日のエスコン、BSフジで全国中継だから見たけど超満員だったな
札幌ドームはwww
札幌ドームはwww
370名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZinSQYVP02023/07/01(土) 18:24:59.28
昼の大蔵の番組で暗幕10億円は初めから札幌市がだす設備費修繕費扱いみたいだな
第三セクターは運営管理を頼まれてるだけで持ち主は札幌市だという論理らしい
住んでるアパート据付ののエアコン壊れたと住人訴えたら、不動産、アパート管理会社は手配は代行でやるけど資産エアコンの修繕費用は大家もちみたいな感覚みたいだ
これだと10億でもなんでも適当に仕事するわな
第三セクターは運営管理を頼まれてるだけで持ち主は札幌市だという論理らしい
住んでるアパート据付ののエアコン壊れたと住人訴えたら、不動産、アパート管理会社は手配は代行でやるけど資産エアコンの修繕費用は大家もちみたいな感覚みたいだ
これだと10億でもなんでも適当に仕事するわな
371名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aLorT6c502023/07/01(土) 18:26:14.26
嫌がらせで、あんな近くに建てるから別の球団も呼べないしイベント誘致も共倒れだよ、本当腐った肉屋だ
372名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZinSQYVP0
>>371 エスコンは野球場でドームはサッカー場、総合イベント会場だから関係ないんじやなかったかw
375名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aLorT6c50
>>372
文章解釈できないのかよw
文章解釈できないのかよw
373名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6ZcgrWVY02023/07/01(土) 18:30:05.37
市長他人事みたいだけど移転の責任重大だろこいつ
379名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PCGTeeOj0
>>373
どうせ赤字でも解体でも国から交付金出るくらいにしか思ってないよ
どうせ赤字でも解体でも国から交付金出るくらいにしか思ってないよ
382名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uNCz0sx60
>>379
いや解体したら補助金は出ない
いや解体したら補助金は出ない
2031年まで札幌ドーム建設の為の市債を発行していて
その償還のために、北海道と国土交通省から合わせて8億円以上毎年貰ってるから
「コンサドーレ札幌サポーター」が望む
札幌ドームを解体して、その代わりに二万人規模のサッカー専用スタジアムの建設は
2031年まで無理
388名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TV05FDMa0
>>373
秋元市長もいろいろ考えておられるんですよ！
秋元市長もいろいろ考えておられるんですよ！
374名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5i9Hm5fS02023/07/01(土) 18:30:11.15
札幌ドームは文化の象徴
ここを中心として街を育てていく気持ちが必要
赤字は問題ない、公共施設だからね
ここを中心として街を育てていく気持ちが必要
赤字は問題ない、公共施設だからね
377名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:T3LEL7Q002023/07/01(土) 18:32:19.23
悔しかったら厚別に移転して使用料払って自分達でペイしろよサカ豚w
378名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6hLqiNrO02023/07/01(土) 18:35:05.65
多分エスコンのネガキャンしてなければここまで叩かれなかっただろ
散々叩いておいて10億無駄遣いだもの
散々叩いておいて10億無駄遣いだもの
380名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UBpHcvem02023/07/01(土) 18:35:57.73
試合数が少ない上に客が呼べない内容のJリーグ
かたや客が見たいものを提供しているプロ野球
少々不便であっても関係なく客はプロ野球を選ぶ
これが現実
かたや客が見たいものを提供しているプロ野球
少々不便であっても関係なく客はプロ野球を選ぶ
これが現実
383名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uNCz0sx602023/07/01(土) 18:40:39.48
だいたい札幌ドーム解体って言ってるのは
コンサドーレ札幌サポーター
コンサドーレ札幌サポーター
384名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6hLqiNrO02023/07/01(土) 18:41:05.33
札幌ドームの赤字は増え続ける未来への遺産
新モードの10億円も考えた役人の報酬も全て未来への遺産
なんかいい響きだよね
未来への遺産
新モードの10億円も考えた役人の報酬も全て未来への遺産
なんかいい響きだよね
未来への遺産
ただの借金なんだけどｗｗｗ
385名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Sw70C12H02023/07/01(土) 18:43:11.19
こ、交流戦が終われば客入り悪くなるから！とコンサブタが必死に好きでもないやきうの
興行事情調べて言ってたのに、ぜんぜん落ちない
興行事情調べて言ってたのに、ぜんぜん落ちない
389名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8ZT218Dv02023/07/01(土) 18:47:51.46
市街地に出てきたヒグマの収容所でいいだろ
391名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PCGTeeOj0
>>389
その中に犯罪者を入れて羆を倒すか一定時間逃げ切ったら恩赦とかだったらめっちゃ人気の娯楽になりそう
その中に犯罪者を入れて羆を倒すか一定時間逃げ切ったら恩赦とかだったらめっちゃ人気の娯楽になりそう
390名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hFS/9mSB02023/07/01(土) 18:52:28.59
床をフローリングにして体育館にしろ
392名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eMaKuiJP02023/07/01(土) 18:55:04.94
こんなの使ってまで
ドームでやる意味ねえし
ステータスもないただの落ちぶれた箱だよ
ドームでやる意味ねえし
ステータスもないただの落ちぶれた箱だよ
393名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:goQjZFLz02023/07/01(土) 18:56:03.79
コンサとしてはサッポコドームを日ハム専用にして
サッポコ市内に2万人程度のサカ豚専用スタジアムを税金で建設してもらいたかったんじゃね
？
サッポコ市にもコンサドーレサッポコにも最悪の結果
サッポコ市内に2万人程度のサカ豚専用スタジアムを税金で建設してもらいたかったんじゃね
？
サッポコ市にもコンサドーレサッポコにも最悪の結果
394名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7nq6fwmb02023/07/01(土) 18:56:58.05
冬が長いんだから冬季に夏を感じられるハワイアンランドっぽくすれば良い。昔は札幌にもあったと聞く
395名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:je4J/7fB02023/07/01(土) 18:57:59.74
10億も出すなら解体費用の足しにすればいいのに
396名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iu+NNlLo02023/07/01(土) 18:58:12.67
大分銀行ドームも呆れとったわ
397名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1L3ukdNr2023/07/01(土) 18:59:16.71
よさこい劇場にして365日踊ってろ
398名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZbB80okT02023/07/01(土) 18:59:22.10
既得権益として甘い汁吸ってた奴らに被らせたら？w
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I urge you to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was purely disappointment and suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, seek out a more reputable platform to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you stay away from this site. The experience I had with it was only dismay as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, find a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise to avoid this site. My personal experience with it has been nothing but disappointment and suspicion of deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, look for a trustworthy service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it was nothing but disappointment as well as doubts about fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, seek out a more reputable site for your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it has been purely frustration as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, find a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.
I urge you steer clear of this site. My personal experience with it was only disappointment as well as suspicion of deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, find a trustworthy service for your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My personal experience with it was only frustration and doubts about deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, look for a more reputable platform for your needs.