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ファイターズ移転後の「札幌ドーム」総事業費10億円の減収対策 “新モード” いまだ利用ゼロ…札幌市民「もったいない、税金が」

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703名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XK2rHPj502023/07/02(日) 09:29:05.09
北海道から撤退するよう署名活動したらどうかな?
理由は
公益を考えず利己的に移転をした
物価スライドによる家賃収入の価格上昇に切れた
札幌市民に年間一万円の損害を与えた
千歳線が混雑して空港利用者がこまっている
などなど
708名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wBwA6VS102023/07/02(日) 09:39:44.78
冬にビアガーデンでもやれば?ちょっと室温高めにして
709名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7FA5ZuOX02023/07/02(日) 09:49:36.64
暗幕も計画が出た頃はジョークだと思ってたから、
マジでやるとは思わなかったな。
746名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+x0Sdm5v0
>>709
うん 単なる思い付きが口に出ただけだと思ってたわ
まさか事前に業界等への調査もなく(多分)10億もの予算ぶち込んだなと呆れるしかない
710名無しさん@恐縮ですID:buGyJP5r02023/07/02(日) 09:51:22.74
このスレを見ている全ての札幌市民へ

一生、奴隷として
札幌ドームの維持費を税金で払い続けるがよい

711名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XK2rHPj502023/07/02(日) 09:54:33.83
やっぱ日ハムにどっか行ってもらおうぜ、新しいもっと札幌と仲良くやれるチームと仕切り直そう
712名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8I8ZDa2z0
>>711
有り得んな
714名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Imm6ADxI0
>>711
わざわざ意地の悪い札幌の養分になってくれるチームがどこにあるって
717名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ItwTXsOq0
>>711
北海道でやりたい球団なんていないぞ
陸路で移動できないから不便、遠征費半端ない、集客大変
北海道がいいと思ってる人なんていないよ
そういうところが勘違いなんだよな
北なんとかみたいに鎖国されててそんなこともわからんの?
721名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/EuhvWJQ0
>>717
でも札幌だけは北海道でも他とは違うの!
という選民意識
726名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rnI6F/iH0
>>711
ボケが
734名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WbeQGsa50
>>711
仮にそれやったとしたら新球団がエスコン買いとってそっち行くだろうな
737名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8I8ZDa2z0
>>734
日本ハムはどうなるんだ?w
748名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WbeQGsa50
>>737
その球団のホームに入ると言う事でw
まあマジな話日ハムにやったような条件飲む球団なんてなかろうよ
735名無しさん@恐縮ですID:B/hL9jHR0
>>711
既に北広島に行ってますが?
713名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8I8ZDa2z02023/07/02(日) 09:56:52.52
そもそも札幌のどこでやるのさw
715名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fNdWbnoy02023/07/02(日) 10:04:04.88
屋根のあるキャンプ場にしろ
718名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CTrvG1WO02023/07/02(日) 10:16:15.96
市民が市長を肯定してんなら騙して税金納めればよい
719名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BKGmO3HX02023/07/02(日) 10:16:33.16
もったいなくない
札幌市幹部の天下り先として有効に活用させているだろ
720名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ItwTXsOq02023/07/02(日) 10:16:42.69
結局は野球に頼ろうとしてる思考もあさましいよな
あんなに批判しといて

サッカーで食っていけよ

722名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TqIrweKF0
>>720
近くに野球専用天然芝スタジアムができたのに
まだ年間8試合くらい呼べればって言ってるの頭お花畑で楽しそうだよな
723名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uWt417fO02023/07/02(日) 10:47:21.55
東方線か東西線をエスコンまで伸ばせば問題無し早くやれ秋元市長
724名無しさん@恐縮です2023/07/02(日) 10:47:58.62
毎年10億円も損失出すなら、札幌ドーム解体して、100億円規模のサッカー専用スタジアムを創った方が良くね?
敷地が空いた分は駐車場なり、有効活用すれば良い
725名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8z8G3Ohp02023/07/02(日) 10:51:08.73
今日、あちらは屋根開けて試合だぞ
素晴らしい絵面


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786名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9yUVXjll0
>>725
すごーい!!
ドーム球場は好きじゃないけど、エスコンは屋根が開くから素敵!
晴れた日のデイゲーム観戦、気持ち良さそう
727名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HLzepn4P02023/07/02(日) 10:52:44.74
札幌ドームは迷路にすればいいんじゃないかな
アイドルのバスツアーを誘致して、キッコーマンのウーロン茶出してさ
728名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XSCxvF1a02023/07/02(日) 10:53:16.45
ススキノ風俗祭りとかやりゃええやん
729名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d5lqwW2S02023/07/02(日) 11:05:55.30
北海道から出なかっただけ有難いと思えよ無能札幌市政
730名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ARSBCgKT02023/07/02(日) 11:11:33.48
カス市民がバカ市長を戴いて決めた事だから深く静かに死んどけ札幌ドーム。
731名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/EuhvWJQ02023/07/02(日) 11:17:12.89
日ハムとの交渉時の市の対応が相当おかしな印象
土地の所有者の同意も無しに勝手に建設地を提示とかあり得んでしょ
ここまで市政がおかしいのってドームに限っての話なの?
謎すぎなんだけど
738名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eDgBu/ww0
>>731
前社長も退任して即座に地元紙に何か変だなだしね
そういうのが罷り通る土地柄なんだなとしか
740名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8I8ZDa2z0
>>738
自分のせいじゃない
相手が悪いんだ
それが罷り通るのが札幌
732名無しさん@恐縮ですID:isFcxsTs02023/07/02(日) 11:17:40.62
壊せばいいじゃん
736名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oIgjEVHi02023/07/02(日) 11:28:45.65
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/390687fb4f6f4b514ee3843ca36f718d39b2dcfb
> 市が昨年6月に公表した収支見通しでは、23年度は約2億9400万円の赤字だが、24~27年度の4年間はいずれも黒字で、5年間トータルでも900万円の黒字を見込んだ。

お花畑の収支見通しで、なんとかかんとか僅かな黒字が出る、ということにしたようだが。
新モードもネーミングライツも収入0だと、一体赤字はいくらになるんだろうな。

741名無しさん@恐縮ですID:B/hL9jHR0
>>736
5年通算で赤字20億円と予想
739名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8I8ZDa2z02023/07/02(日) 11:30:01.16
名古屋移転かな?
新庄は中日の監督やりたいらしいしな
742名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8I8ZDa2z02023/07/02(日) 11:36:35.90
エスコンの屋根開いたぞ

爽快爽快

743名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8I8ZDa2z02023/07/02(日) 11:37:50.41
751名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+x0Sdm5v0
>>743
これはもう札幌ドーム勝ち目ないわ
どーにもならん
高校野球も出来るならコッチ使いたがるわ
811名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sa/YTJKq0
>>751
野球をやってる甥っ子も同じ事を言ってる。
天然芝の球場は魅力的なんだろうね。
817名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Y/4vClHz0
>>811
秋の北海道高校野球予選
札幌Dに決まったコジツケ理由は
神宮球場が人工芝だからだけ

ペラペラ人工芝じゃない神宮球場
球児はムダなペラペラ人工芝用スパイク
用意しなければならない
早く札幌ド-ムは消えれば良いのにな
820名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hY9ATzzu0
>>817
今年はコンサの試合がふえるからその分の補助金が1億円以上出てる
その補助金を使って高校野球を誘致してるけど
来年補助金出なかったら高校野球は誘致できない。
824名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Y/4vClHz0
>>820
札幌ド-ム赤字の元凶は
芝の出し入れなのに
赤字対策=コンサの試合数を増やす
アホだな札幌は
830名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sa/YTJKq0
>>817
円山球場も凄く良い球場って言ってるわ、俺の甥っ子。
守備が本当にし易いんだって。
754名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ApQnzS5N0
>>743
これちょっと詳しいやつがみりゃ試合の2時間前ぐらいの様子ってわかるのに
無知な奴がこれ貼って空席がーガラガラがーってやってるからな
755名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nFRE6pat0
>>743
いいね雨降りません様に
761名無しさん@恐縮ですID:b+6am2pj0
>>743
なにこれ、メジャーの球場でしょw

もっと晴れてりゃ最高だった

763名無しさん@恐縮ですID:deWYYz1k0
>>761
別スレより晴れている今日の写真

755 名無しさん@恐縮です 2023/07/02(日) 10:53:11.15 ID:8z8G3Ohp0
屋根開いてる画像だけでも札幌ドームとは雲泥の差
屋根開けて試合だってよー


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764名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oIgjEVHi0
>>763
おー、かっこいいなー
781名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7vedfU9I0
>>763
うはっ!カッコいい!!!
オイラの開幕カードは屋根ガン閉まり
年内もう1回行きたいと思います
青空が似合いねぇー

札幌ドーム 「雨がっ!」

閉まるんだよwwwwww

744名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eDgBu/ww02023/07/02(日) 11:39:07.14
おー 雰囲気違うねぇ
745名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Og2SHVJN02023/07/02(日) 11:39:59.88
これは気持ち良いだろなぁ
747名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DWRebEk902023/07/02(日) 11:41:58.47
あの箱に2万程度入れて音楽イベント?

音響ってもんを考えろよ

金払ってやっていただけるかどうかってレベルだろ

749名無しさん@恐縮ですID:c5NRe4dc02023/07/02(日) 11:44:20.95
スポーツ以外の用途で借りると使用料が高いと聞いた
だから物販イベント等では使いにくい

ドームの観客席を一杯にできるミュージシャンもそんなに多くない

770名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Qjlaha/w0
>>749
ドームというより札幌都市圏の人口が少ないから、二万人以上動員出来る
興行を行える芸能人はそうそう居ない。おまけに音楽業界がCDオワコンで
若者やニワカが来る余地が小さくなってるし。

札幌の倍以上の余力ある名古屋ですらドームツアー飛ばされるのに、札幌
ドームが使われるわけないわさ。

804名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xRH+88RK0
>>770
CDはオワコンといわれたのは2007年だとすると、もう16年も前の話だ
いまCD販売をビジネスの中心に据えるミュージシャンはいないだろう

これが2007年の記事だ
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