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351名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9+dAja8E02023/06/28(水) 08:39:27.12
瀬名がアホ、家康もアホ
しかしそれに輪をかけてアホに描かれているのが武田勝頼…
359名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ED5m/nEO0
>>351
赤マフラー巻くんなら秀吉の朝鮮侵攻のときに明軍の参謀やってて侵攻を阻止しようとするんだろ
352名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XDmeMXjG02023/06/28(水) 09:01:30.28
今までは瀬名が主役
次が最終回
356名無しさん@恐縮ですID:11BNIEPI02023/06/28(水) 09:18:26.26
顔デカより側室のが可愛いな
357名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Tv5YrM6b02023/06/28(水) 09:19:49.87
708 日曜8時の名無しさん sage 2023/06/28(水) 05:49:14.52 ID:1DPmcZvl
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360名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9lqF6jCb02023/06/28(水) 09:40:15.29
もう関ヶ原で家康殺されて影武者に入れ替わったってことで演出いったんリセットしてもいいんじゃね
361名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZD9DZtf802023/06/28(水) 09:48:26.90
大阪の陣までいけるの?
関ヶ原で終わりそうな気がする
362名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TF0LE1Og02023/06/28(水) 09:57:00.78
今回の家康はクソだから関ヶ原で負けそうだけど
三成がそれ以上にクソで勝つんだろうなあ…
363名無しさん@恐縮ですID:omOS6+vg02023/06/28(水) 09:59:52.93
この脚本では家康も草葉の陰で泣いてるだろうよ、じきに祟られるさ
370名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cwYOQdPM0
>>363
脚本家は家康と築山御前、どちらも冒涜しているよね
それにOK出しているPも含めて祟られる可能性あると思った
385名無しさん@恐縮ですID:omOS6+vg0
>>370
大河全体だろう、もしかはNHKそのもの
364名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/HfsUqCb02023/06/28(水) 10:00:17.23
瀬名がしんだら見るのやめるから次が最終回だな
365名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LWXEL4cO02023/06/28(水) 10:12:43.78
とんでもない嘘を混ぜてくるな
367名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GAF+zBu302023/06/28(水) 10:18:50.68
鉄砲空撃ちの戦を2年もやっていたと知って震えている
そりゃねーわ
368名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MD0cEgyd0
>>367
あの空打ち等の戦のふりを織田にバレずにすませられるって思うのがお花畑だよな。
戦に出てる雑兵とかの噂で絶対バレるだろ
371名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CrxJlypH0
>>368
2年も戦をやってるのに雑兵減ってないわね
372名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZwsuplSC02023/06/28(水) 10:28:36.32
NHK
「大河の脚本なんて現代ドラマの人気脚本家に時代考証の先生を付けてやれば簡単に書けるでしょw」
「人気時代小説を原作にするとNHK出版からドラマ小説を売ることができなくなるしw」
・・・って思ってそう(´・ω・`)
375名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JsGVgR9O02023/06/28(水) 10:30:50.94
女性の活躍書きたいんなら、日本のドラマ関係者は中国や韓国の時代劇研究しろよ

今BSで「孤城閉」って作品やってるからそれ見てお勉強

376名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v+nQgMyD02023/06/28(水) 10:31:18.88
古沢良太インタビュー
https://mantan-web.jp/article/20230108dog00m200054000c.html

>今作の執筆の中で「時代劇はもっと自由な発想で描いてもいいのでは」と気付きもあった。

>先人たちの作品や定説にとらわれすぎている気がします。
>特に、女性に関しては資料があまりないのだから、もっと自由に描けるんじゃないか

>大河は(歴史)考証の先生がたくさんついているので、いろいろかいくぐりながら、自由に描かせてもらっています

>こちらに明確に描きたいことがしっかりあって、『ここはこういう解釈にします』と説明すると、考証の先生方も納得してくれる。
>描きたいものがしっかりあることが一番大事だと思います

393名無しさん@恐縮ですID:y2EiiOel0
>>376
歴史好きの逆張りで話を作れるオレ(エッヘン)

この発想なんだなとわかった
そら人間描けるわけないわ

378名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WLxpY5Pr0
>>376

こんな考えで書いてるなら
あーなるわな、、

443名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UH98VtVr0
>>376
>こちらに明確に描きたいことがしっかりあって、『ここはこういう解釈にします』と説明すると、考証の先生方も納得してくれる。

それさあ納得してくれたんじゃなくて諦められてるんだよ多分
「まーエンタメドラマなんだし仕方ない」的に
小和田先生とか散々TV出てるからもはや悟りの境地だろうし

377名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oj+lWPGb02023/06/28(水) 10:31:35.51
だから視聴率スレ来て「視聴率ゆうやつのせいでー!」やるのやめれや
どう考えても不人気だった鎌倉時代よりみんな大好き戦国時代扱ってコレなんだから
脚本タイトル役者がまずい事を素直に受け入れろや
他大河じゃこんな手合い現れないのにジャニ婆はどうしてこんなに馬鹿なのか
380名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JsGVgR9O0
>>377
平清盛
馬鹿「平清盛なんていうマイナーな奴を主役にするから視聴率が取れない!」

篤姫(マイナー)
馬鹿「篤姫は女だから視聴率が取れた!」→女性主人公ばかり主役にしたがるように

ジャニーズが主役
馬鹿「ジャニーズが主役だから視聴率が取れない/ジャニーズを主演にしないと視聴率が取れない!」→結局いつも同じキャストに。そしてこけるとその俳優を叩いて内容を反省せず終了

379名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NjSkZbx602023/06/28(水) 10:33:53.69
キンジパか時宗みたいなドラマの作りと役者の使い方をすれば良かったんだと思う
381名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uul0t1rB02023/06/28(水) 10:38:16.62
時代考証のセンセイも匙ぶん投げてるんだろうな。
学者の端くれとして恥ずかしくて仕方ないだろうが。
382名無しさん@恐縮ですID:q6xZjrhF02023/06/28(水) 10:52:53.74
>>730
先週、英雄たちの選択で平山優見たけど今まで見たことないくらい顔パンパンだった
383名無しさん@恐縮ですID:q6xZjrhF02023/06/28(水) 10:53:12.58
>>730
先週、英雄たちの選択で平山優見たけど今まで見たことないくらい顔パンパンだった
384名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1ozQlNHe02023/06/28(水) 10:55:07.06
家康の側室が実は同性愛者で最後は女同士の同性婚も家康に認められるような脚本は左翼の政治家に頼まれたのかなw
388名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eOn/SJer02023/06/28(水) 12:07:40.02
917 日曜8時の名無しさん[sage] 2023/06/27(火) 16:50:54.15 ID:67GHeher
その公式本を読んできたら次回も案の定みたいね
長々と書いてあったが要するに

松潤「わしは誰も死なせたくないんじゃああああ」
瀬名・信康「死ぬ」
松潤「いやじゃああああ」
瀬名・信康「だから死ぬんやって」
松潤「いやじゃああああ」

のループで45分間っぽいな
瀬名パート45分間ほんま苦行だわ
そして何も成長してない松潤家康
もう今年の放送回数折り返しなのに

391名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jhduzrhz02023/06/28(水) 12:26:18.78
こうしてLove & Peace に目覚めた家康公
その後なんやかんやあって武田を滅ぼし
石田三成をさらし首にし豊臣秀頼と淀君をぶっ殺して
太平の世を作ったのでした
392名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HgeU7THY02023/06/28(水) 12:36:14.46
本能寺の後の天正壬午の乱が最高に面白いところなのに端折られそうだなw
396名無しさん@恐縮ですID:umS7IZSQ0
>>392
昨年の上総介を昌幸に据えてるから真田との絡みもたっぷりやると予想
最後の家康絶体絶命は因縁の赤備え信繁の突撃だし
399名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IA5fJRRF0
>>396
俺たちの上総介を返してください
401名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jhduzrhz0
>>399
デアルカ
402名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sYm1UL2k0
>>399
今映画にも出てる
やはり斬られるらしい
歴史・時代劇映画何作か出てるけど斬られまくっている
394名無しさん@恐縮ですID:y2EiiOel02023/06/28(水) 12:58:29.26
実家の後楯による影響力行使は女子にとっては命綱
後継の息子を産めば一気に発言力を増す
来年の平安期摂関家の姫君もそんな感じ
表向きは持ってないようでいて発言力影響力がある
歴史無知の単純思考の今年より、来年のほうがそのへんの影響力行使をガッツリやりそうな気がするな
395名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3dN638kg02023/06/28(水) 13:58:54.01
ジリ貧の武田なのに儲けのない戦してたら借金苦で自殺しちゃうわ
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