そのせいで変な脚本になっとる
民放のSF時代劇ならいいけど大河でこれやられたら役者たちはかわいそう
取り繕いようもない。
誰も止めなかったのか？
もう完全にテレビ終わってんな
こんなん見られる奴は痴呆症のジジババだけやろ
あなたもドラマ見てるうえに、こんなスレッドまできてるのに
見てる人を見下すっておかしいと思わないの？
949 日曜8時の名無しさん 2022/12/11(日) 11:55:47.07 ID:3Xs/KL8r
反道徳的ナルシスト
概要
反社会的特徴を含んでいる。搾取的で、不実で、人をだます、無節操なペテン師という人物像をもつ
人格特性
良心に欠けている。無節操で、道理に無関心であり、不実で、詐欺的で、人を欺き、傲慢で、人をモノのように扱う。支配的で、人を軽蔑し、執念深い詐欺師である
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584 日曜8時の名無しさん sage 2023/05/25(木) 20:30:30.64 ID:bLVVg4F1
【ナルシスト撃退方法】ナルシストと戦わない方法についてお話しします/自己愛性パーソナリティ障害の人への接し方とは
ナルシストは自分の思い通りにならない時や大河ドラマを操れない時に怒りを使って世論をコントロールしてくることがあります。
否定されて世論を操られてしまうと高い確率で自尊心に問題を抱えてしまいますし、暴言や毒を吐いてくるナルシストと戦わないように、『トラブルを避けたい』という方がほとんどだと思います。
今日は『ナルシストと戦わない方法』をいくつか大事なポイントとしてまとめたので、攻撃的なナルシストの相手をしているけどどのように対策すればいいのかわからないという方にぜひ参考にしてもらえればいいなと思います。
https://rinnakamura.はてなblog.com/entry/2022/01/24/155142
ただ松潤の演技力がいよいよ問われるなw
ノリ的に
それに同盟相手の織田が西から来る勢力の巨大な防波堤になっている
信長のおかげでこの程度の戦で済んでいるのに恩知らずというほかない
出てる役者が可哀想だわ
いい脚本もらったら逆にもったいないよ
工作員は統括の仲間だからな
全部主演と脚本家のせいにしてくるよ
https://nhk2.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/nhkdrama/1671420797/
だが、毎回回想で出てくるのは見えてる
この時点で破綻してるんだ作品としては。
もう我々が大河と思ってる企画は出てこないんだろうな。
身に沁みて分かったわ。
今回は瀬名のお花畑カルトに穴山梅雪も家康も心酔して2年間も信長を欺いて戦のふりするというトンデモ展開だからキャストがどうこうの回じゃないw
二年も戦のまねごとしてたら、誰かから漏れて信長の耳に入りそうだ。
お前の大河らしい大河って何？
まさか叩かれまくって視聴率も悪かった葵じゃないよな
視聴率は良かったけどやはり批判の多かった政宗とか中井信玄も論外だぞ
瀬名が教祖みたいになってLOVE&PEACEとNO MORE WARを掲げて周囲が心酔していくとか…展開が幼稚でゴミすぎる
949 日曜8時の名無しさん 2022/12/11(日) 11:55:47.07 ID:3Xs/KL8r
反道徳的ナルシスト
概要
反社会的特徴を含んでいる。搾取的で、不実で、人をだます、無節操なペテン師という人物像をもつ
人格特性
良心に欠けている。無節操で、道理に無関心であり、不実で、詐欺的で、人を欺き、傲慢で、人をモノのように扱う。支配的で、人を軽蔑し、執念深い詐欺師である
https://nhk2.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/nhkdrama/1671420797/687
>>325
584 日曜8時の名無しさん sage 2023/05/25(木) 20:30:30.64 ID:bLVVg4F1
【ナルシスト撃退方法】ナルシストと戦わない方法についてお話しします/自己愛性パーソナリティ障害の人への接し方とは
ナルシストは自分の思い通りにならない時や大河ドラマを操れない時に怒りを使って世論をコントロールしてくることがあります。
否定されて世論を操られてしまうと高い確率で自尊心に問題を抱えてしまいますし、暴言や毒を吐いてくるナルシストと戦わないように、『トラブルを避けたい』という方がほとんどだと思います。
今日は『ナルシストと戦わない方法』をいくつか大事なポイントとしてまとめたので、攻撃的なナルシストの相手をしているけどどのように対策すればいいのかわからないという方にぜひ参考にしてもらえればいいなと思います。
https://rinnakamura.はてなblog.com/entry/2022/01/24/155142
ドラマもバラエティも音楽も80年代までに粗方やっちゃった
あとは斜めの方向へ行くしかないのよ
こういうジャニーズの力によるねじ込みに嫌気が
緒方直人の信長もイメージ違いすぎたんだよなあ
あまりにもイメージ違いの配役は
演技力関係なく違和感が先行して無理
潔癖症気味で下戸の緒形信長はフロイスの伝える信長に忠実
歴史小説で作られた虚像とはベースが違う
麒麟の染谷もかなり従来像とは違ったがあれはウケてたぞ？
結局はイメージというよりキャラクターの造型の仕方だと思う
イメージと合わなくてもいいけど「こういう奴ならいたかもしれない」という納得は必要
瀬名か有村ファンなのかはわからんが脚本家のアゲアゲ工作が酷すぎる
戦国の女性はもっと男より賢くて能動的だったはずだ、が脚本家の歴史物を書く信条らしいから
レジェバタのインタビューで語ってたわ
池波正太郎の他国に嫁いだ戦国大名の女子は間者であり外交官であった
なら説得力あるが、今作のは論外だｗ
三谷は自称歴史好きだから真田丸の時も阿茶局（相当デキる側室No.1）をピックアップしてたが
今回出てくるかな。こないだの大量追加登場人物の時にいなかったよな？？
「賢い女性が～」って言って阿茶局出さなかったらさすがにおかしいけど
旭姫とか出てくるならもう同時期に出てきてもおかしくないのに
三谷はちゃんとわかってるから見てる方も納得できるけど、この脚本家は歴史とか馬鹿にしてそうだから>>343みたいなあほにも舐められる脚本しか書けない
>戦国の女性はもっと男より賢くて能動的だったはずだ、が脚本家の歴史物を書く信条らしいから
馬鹿にしか見えないのは脚本家の力量の限界か…
三谷はちゃんとわかってるから見てる方も納得できるけど、この脚本家は歴史とか馬鹿にしてそうだから>>343みたいなあほにも舐められる脚本しか書けない
脚本家の私情でどうにでも工作できるＮＨＫ歴史ドラマがだんだん酷くなるのが大問題
確かに当時妻や側室が家中の取り仕切りをしたり外交に影響及ぼしていた事例は多々あるし
過去にそういう描写入れてたドラマもあったけどなんかこのドラマは不自然展開が余りにも多過ぎなんだわ
利家とまつのなんでもかんでもまつのお蔭で解決という展開にも白けたが
少なくともまつは築山殿と違って本当に政治の裏方やってたし無理矢理なお花畑国家戦略をブチ上げたりはしなかったし
能動的女性像の結実が
初夜プロレスとなろう系展開とは恐れ入るわ
有村架純でドラマ作れば良いのに
中学聖日記は普通に観たけどもうこの人が出るのは二度と観ない
すっとぼけたたぬきみたいな演技が無理
>来週も瀬名が五徳に姑の悪行を訴える手紙を書かせて全ての責任を負おうとする無理やりな展開らしい
>瀬名か有村ファンなのかはわからんが脚本家のアゲアゲ工作が酷すぎる
武田と申し合わせて戦っているフリをするって
信康や瀬名だけじゃ実行不可能
家康も関与していることは明らかなのに…
ミエミエの嘘の告発に乗ってやる信長さん優しすぎじゃん
何が平和だこの糞脚本
こんなに左翼の妄想剥き出しで来るとは思わなかった
共和国も左翼も意味分かってなさそう
自由経済的ブロック経済圏って旧帝国主義やTPPも該当するのに
来年以降は7、8%がデフォになるから
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