250名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7Wzs+8ls02023/06/27(火) 15:47:26.52
穴山が裏切る理由できた
251名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wIiaVt5/02023/06/27(火) 15:49:38.81
牛若タッキーや香取局長より酷い演技だ。歴代ワースト主演じゃねえの
252名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cA5TKC3o0
>>251
キャラが酷いんだよ
普通のパートなら緒形直人くらいには演じられているよ
キャラが酷いんだよ
普通のパートなら緒形直人くらいには演じられているよ
254名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4VrrmHFY02023/06/27(火) 15:52:09.20
猿之助の代わりに香川照之が大河で復活も
有りかな
有りかな
255名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DcB+pPXH02023/06/27(火) 15:52:57.28
観て思ったんだけど、戦のない世の中が望みなら、みんな揃って
信長の臣下になればいいじゃん？
後に秀吉に多くの大名が従ったように
信長の臣下になればいいじゃん？
後に秀吉に多くの大名が従ったように
信長の目を欺くために徳川と武田で空鉄砲を互いに撃ち合うより
よほど確実に平和な世が来るぞ
299名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lu3c4asa0
>>255
そう思わせないために信長の残忍性を強調したんだろうけど
双方武器持って戦してて「これは虐殺だ！」って言われてもねぇ
そう思わせないために信長の残忍性を強調したんだろうけど
双方武器持って戦してて「これは虐殺だ！」って言われてもねぇ
259名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yWpguZwi02023/06/27(火) 15:57:59.95
家康は人生前半部分は刹那で生きてるとこあって
普通に描いても面白い
なんでくだらない萎えストーリー加えまくったのか謎
普通に描いても面白い
なんでくだらない萎えストーリー加えまくったのか謎
260名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cA5TKC3o02023/06/27(火) 15:58:49.60
ロケで合戦撮影は厳しいだろうけど、キンジパをもう少しマイルドにしたくらいの作りなら松潤でもそれなりにやったんじゃないかね
緒形直人くらいの演技力はあると見受けられる
あんなキャラじゃなければ違っていただろうね
緒形直人くらいの演技力はあると見受けられる
あんなキャラじゃなければ違っていただろうね
261名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o4WbBj5M02023/06/27(火) 16:10:50.83
そうだ！
韓国語で放送したら視聴率バク上げまちがなし！
韓国語で放送したら視聴率バク上げまちがなし！
266名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1d8Krpn/0
ら
>>261
秀吉を悪役にして、生きてるうちに下克上しちゃいそうだ
>>261
秀吉を悪役にして、生きてるうちに下克上しちゃいそうだ
267名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KjlJBVrj0
>>261
秀吉の朝鮮出兵を止めようと奔走する家康、撤退の裏には家康の影の努力が・・・
秀吉の朝鮮出兵を止めようと奔走する家康、撤退の裏には家康の影の努力が・・・
これで韓国視聴者の心鷲づかみかな
262名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:c76UwInq0
>>261
受信料払って見てくれるかどうか
受信料払って見てくれるかどうか
263名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EZY7Ilzw02023/06/27(火) 16:34:54.79
セナの東国連合構想に明智光秀も一枚噛む
パイプ役は穴山信君
裏切りの露見を恐れた光秀は穴山を含む家康一行を襲撃するが、
そこに居たのは・・・
パイプ役は穴山信君
裏切りの露見を恐れた光秀は穴山を含む家康一行を襲撃するが、
そこに居たのは・・・
264名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jwtKNApC02023/06/27(火) 16:42:35.69
広瀬アリスはお笑い枠
265名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:v8c7psKF02023/06/27(火) 16:48:22.09
10.０の0も半角にしてー
268名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4VzBeC0z02023/06/27(火) 17:11:54.90
広瀬アリスは電波人間タックル
269名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+fwXmKcd02023/06/27(火) 17:14:35.72
アリスも結構はよ死ぬじゃん
有村・松井玲奈・広瀬アリスを退場させて
ナンバーワンお妾になる女（阿茶局？）の女優は誰になるんだろ
まだ発表ないよな
有村・松井玲奈・広瀬アリスを退場させて
ナンバーワンお妾になる女（阿茶局？）の女優は誰になるんだろ
まだ発表ないよな
271名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VC+pM36P02023/06/27(火) 17:29:03.05
田辺誠一(穴山)がいい演技しちょる
この計略のままのシナリオが見たかった信長包囲網w
この計略のままのシナリオが見たかった信長包囲網w
穴山の人心が離れまする
この名言は俺の心にも響いたw
397名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:95cXiaI40
>>271
穴山は後に信長に寝返り、伊賀越のどさくさで横死する。
穴山は後に信長に寝返り、伊賀越のどさくさで横死する。
伏線がすごいね。
272名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5S5bIo6R02023/06/27(火) 17:40:06.01
ニシパだっけ？まえに時代劇やったやつ
あれ見れば松潤に演技力なんて皆無だって分かりそうなもの
本人のキャパのサイズに見合った設定や脚本演出をジャニの力で用意してもらって初めてなんとか見れるって程度
あれ見れば松潤に演技力なんて皆無だって分かりそうなもの
本人のキャパのサイズに見合った設定や脚本演出をジャニの力で用意してもらって初めてなんとか見れるって程度
273名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qS3+F52+02023/06/27(火) 17:44:18.82
どうする家康
最終話予想
徳川家康はこうして、瀬名の理想とした戦のない世を作り上げました
めでたしめでたし
277名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2N8a40Fe0
>>273
>徳川家康はこうして、瀬名の理想とした戦のない世を作り上げました
>徳川家康はこうして、瀬名の理想とした戦のない世を作り上げました
秀吉「作ったのは儂」
274名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q97vVefm02023/06/27(火) 17:49:33.83
高天神城の鉄砲カラ打ち説ってあるんだね。知らんかった。
275名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:b1uMW1kY02023/06/27(火) 17:50:35.64
ホモジャニ嫌われてんねぇ
276名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2NmrMnhY02023/06/27(火) 17:56:58.66
反戦反日のＮＨＫの事だから
今回の築山なんてまだまだ序章にすぎんだろうな
今回の築山なんてまだまだ序章にすぎんだろうな
朝鮮出兵もどんな改悪をされるやら
278名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:d6Ktjr/g02023/06/27(火) 18:07:03.54
1話切りしたけど2スレ目まで行くほど何か話題になったのか
279名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pPygQ1gH0
>>278
瀬名の慈悲の国構想ファンタジー
瀬名が提案するだけなら良いんだけど、穴山梅雪や望月千代女が心酔して、さらに家康も
武田と徳川が示し合わせて2年間も鉄砲を空打ちして戦っているふりをして信長を騙すというファンタジー
視聴者ポカーン
瀬名の慈悲の国構想ファンタジー
瀬名が提案するだけなら良いんだけど、穴山梅雪や望月千代女が心酔して、さらに家康も
武田と徳川が示し合わせて2年間も鉄砲を空打ちして戦っているふりをして信長を騙すというファンタジー
視聴者ポカーン
283名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7/d04mI10
>>279
2年間もwそんなの通用するわけない
2日ならわかるけど
2年間もwそんなの通用するわけない
2日ならわかるけど
291名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q4Ieejt30
>>283
やってる最中に雑兵にバレて、帰還したら即噂になるだろうな
しかも、雑兵の大半は愚痴言うと思うよ「ぶん取りの機会も、恩賞金の機会もない」ってね
やってる最中に雑兵にバレて、帰還したら即噂になるだろうな
しかも、雑兵の大半は愚痴言うと思うよ「ぶん取りの機会も、恩賞金の機会もない」ってね
292名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1MYIy8f50
>>291
俺ら何やってんだろう
俺ら何やってんだろう
ってなるだろうな
285名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pPygQ1gH0
>>283
そんなシナリオでドラマが作られオンエアされました
大河史に残る伝説の回wになると思う
そんなシナリオでドラマが作られオンエアされました
大河史に残る伝説の回wになると思う
280名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3C3bMoRf02023/06/27(火) 18:33:02.69
常識や知性を捨て去らないとこのドラマは楽しめない
Don’t Think, Feel だ
284名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+5+A9rKh02023/06/27(火) 19:14:49.43
2スレ目って
お前らどうする家康好きだなー
お前らどうする家康好きだなー
288名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XoDn5i5f02023/06/27(火) 19:43:45.53
鎌倉で猿之助のやった役は
不気味だったな
呪われたのかな
不気味だったな
呪われたのかな
289名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EaN2jgHc02023/06/27(火) 19:44:37.35
この家康は忠義を尽くせるような人物に見えないのが大きい
290名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Zh1SBT7T0
>>289
今回の24話はもうそういう問題じゃないよ
今回の24話はもうそういう問題じゃないよ
293名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+mVaBylW02023/06/27(火) 19:56:04.98
これだけスレが伸びるのも脚本の話題だからなあ
ある意味すげーよ
ある意味すげーよ
294名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Og7pS/TX02023/06/27(火) 19:56:09.60
葵徳川三代再放送してくんない?ジェームス三木が見てえわ。
295名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KVmluSxf02023/06/27(火) 20:02:54.59
松潤はゲスト出演くらいで良かったし
古沢は民放とドラえもんだけやっとけばボロが出なかった
古沢は民放とドラえもんだけやっとけばボロが出なかった
296名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:puEuiNOH02023/06/27(火) 20:08:06.78
さすがにいだてんには勝つか
297名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lu3c4asa0
>>296
不人気近代ほぼ無名だったスポーツ選手と
一番人気戦国時代大トリ家康
同列に語られる日が来るとはw
不人気近代ほぼ無名だったスポーツ選手と
一番人気戦国時代大トリ家康
同列に語られる日が来るとはw
317名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:W8XwUy4C0
>>297
ジオングが境界戦機のロボのプラモデル並みに売れないようなものだよな
ジオングが境界戦機のロボのプラモデル並みに売れないようなものだよな
302名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yWpguZwi0
>>296
いだてんは落語パートの配分間違えなければもう少し取れた気はするけどな
まあでも無名陸上選手と戦国人気三傑主役が数字で同列になるって大河的にはかなりの悪夢だわ
鉄板題材だったのに
いだてんは落語パートの配分間違えなければもう少し取れた気はするけどな
まあでも無名陸上選手と戦国人気三傑主役が数字で同列になるって大河的にはかなりの悪夢だわ
鉄板題材だったのに
298名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3C3bMoRf02023/06/27(火) 20:17:06.97
大河ドラマ界のちむどんどん
316名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VC+pM36P0
>>298
まさに
ちむどんどんの大河版だなw
まさに
ちむどんどんの大河版だなw
実況向けで楽しめるドタバタ劇
凄い展開にワロタ
徳川、武田、北条、上杉、伊達ら
の東国楽園国家プロジェクトw
319名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lu3c4asa0
>>316
実際の実況板は冷め切っていたけどね
青天や鎌倉では詳しい人が補足してくれたり
歴史上の人物のセリフでボケツッコミしたりして盛り上がっていたのに
鎌倉のシリアス回は引き込まれて実況が伸びないこともあったけど
実際の実況板は冷め切っていたけどね
青天や鎌倉では詳しい人が補足してくれたり
歴史上の人物のセリフでボケツッコミしたりして盛り上がっていたのに
鎌倉のシリアス回は引き込まれて実況が伸びないこともあったけど
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