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251名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T+LqI3R202023/07/11(火) 11:45:59.14
元々ファンじゃないだろ
自分の考えも言えなくなったらおしまい無視でいいよ
254名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aE0j3YYs02023/07/11(火) 11:51:04.95
結局義理と人情かてところがなあ
こんなもんなんすねとしか
257名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ooR+HBIa0
>>254
松尾は義理も人情もないっていう当てこすりなんだろうなw
261名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0hocqqrN0
>>254
俺も義理人情が第一の輩だが
性犯罪が疑われる者との付き合いはひとつもねえし
俺から言わせりゃ山下達郎はジャニー喜多川の共犯者だわな
303名無しさん@恐縮ですID:N1Djy9Q60
>>254
そんなこと言ってたら渡世人に怒られるぞ(笑)
255名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vlP9KAFq02023/07/11(火) 11:52:50.91
山下もホモにアナルセックスしてもらえ
256名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SCzsxAAz02023/07/11(火) 11:53:10.35
Sportifyでこのアーティストは再生しない運動もっとしていくべき
285名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HhZv3c9c0
>>256
もともとサブスクには配信しない主義
トレンドのチェックには使うけど
自分勝手なやつだよ
259名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lmYoOcJU02023/07/11(火) 11:54:14.26
ていうかなんでネトウヨはジャニーズを味方サイドだと思ってるんだ?
国家権力と癒着してるから?
260名無しさん@恐縮ですID:59akIeUq02023/07/11(火) 11:54:19.54
止めるんじゃない!
262名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JPhFg2NS02023/07/11(火) 11:55:27.90
どうせ言ってるやつは元々ファンではないだろうな。本当にファンで辞めるつって言ってるやつはまず全部のCD壊すか燃やすかの画像あげないと信用出来ないな。
263名無しさん@恐縮ですID:N2grEBa002023/07/11(火) 11:55:42.16
印税だけで安泰だろうになんで余計な揉め事おこすかな
266名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0hocqqrN0
>>263
世間様が自分の音楽人生を全て否定しに来ているからだろうな
265名無しさん@恐縮ですID:alXt+ea+02023/07/11(火) 11:56:50.19
俺はジャニーズってそんなにすげーとか思ってないんでね
山下の考え方もわかるけど、俺的にはジャニー喜多川に対する評価は
「性犯罪の悪質性>>>>功績」って感じだから。
山下と一般人では立場が違うし、当然世間からは理解されないとこはあるよ
268名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WA+b2qal02023/07/11(火) 11:59:39.50
元々大瀧詠一の金魚のフンのゴリ押し野郎だしな
270名無しさん@恐縮ですID:alXt+ea+0
>>268
大滝さんより先に売れてるからw
269名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8S20Acza02023/07/11(火) 12:00:23.85
「なまじ黙ってると言ったもん勝ち・・・
こちらからも思うとこをお話ししておく」

これ 思いっきり間違い、こういう時は黙して
語らず沈黙が一番 下手な弁解は火に油を注ぐ
だけ。

271名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dzjbnGwH02023/07/11(火) 12:03:22.58
内容に同意できるかは別として
あれだけ態度を明確にしたスピーチを聞いて
「無難」とか「逃げ腰」と感じる人がいるんだな

逃げ切るつもりなら言わんでもいいことを
あれだけ時間かけて言ってんだから
かなり思い切ってるとおもうけどね

だから実際叩く方向の論調も多いわけだし

274名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0hocqqrN0
>>271
ジャニー喜多川の姪の盾になると決めたんだろうよ
そうならそうでボコボコにしてやっから覚悟しなってことよ
278名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ooR+HBIa0
>>274
なるほど、具体的にあなたは何をされる予定ですか?
281名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0hocqqrN0
>>278
とりあえず
山下達郎が作った曲が入ったレコードCDを廃棄処分にするわなw
287名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ooR+HBIa0
>>281
なるほど
山下達郎の音楽活動には何のダメージもなさそうですけどねw
301名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BEtZqLSB0
>>281
早く廃棄した写真をアップして?
288名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/6n8ZyEM0
>>274
確かに、盾になろうという気概は伝わったw
てか、あれだけ業績礼賛だの敬意を表せば、
そら全体の印象として擁護一色と取られても仕方ないし、
それが義理と人情なんだろう

個人的には、今後ジャニ仕事が減ろうが増えようが、
どっちでもいいけどね

331名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+ar91M5f0
>>288
相手に決めさせるずるいやり方だよ
272名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6YnMoRXP02023/07/11(火) 12:04:26.82
竹内まりやの音楽はどうするの?
聞くのをやめる?
277名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D01el2cF0
>>272
元々聴いてないからどうでもいい。
273名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ncA4G1GF02023/07/11(火) 12:04:59.39
山下達郎みたいな姿勢が民事といえど高裁判決を経てもマスコミが無視し
その後も被害助長することになった一因だよな
275名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ooR+HBIa02023/07/11(火) 12:05:47.84
山下達郎を叩いたとこで、ジャニーズ問題が解決するわけでもないのに
叩いてる人は着地点を見失ってるんだろうなぁw
276名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXgEeP4C02023/07/11(火) 12:06:02.40
ジャニー喜多川社長の“永遠のスペオキ”と言われる堂本剛が10日、神奈川県で行われた自身のソロライブで、ジャニー氏の亡骸にキスをしたことを明かした。
https://entamega.com/20080

ジャニー氏の歴代スペオキ(特にお気に入りのジャニタレ)の中でも、特に相思相愛だったことで知られる剛。ジャニー氏が所有していた東京都渋谷区の高級タワーマンションの最上階を剛名義に変更し、2人で同棲生活を送っていると報じられたこともあった。

郷ひろみ→嫌々キスされる
佐藤敦啓→嫌々キスされる
松潤→嫌々キスされる
中山優馬→嫌々キスされる

堂本剛→自分から死体にキス→相思相愛

279名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AEIwfqmd02023/07/11(火) 12:07:43.59
性犯罪擁護山下
280名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FJb+4jC902023/07/11(火) 12:08:07.39
まりや
282名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Nr92Ue7R02023/07/11(火) 12:10:14.97
イヤなら聞くな

はい

283名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rN0/1g6q02023/07/11(火) 12:10:44.85
まあゲンダイだったらこんなもんだろ
284名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0hocqqrN02023/07/11(火) 12:10:50.60
武家と神職の血を引いているから呪詛してやってもいいけど?w
290名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rN0/1g6q0
>>284
何を言ってんの農民が
286名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXgEeP4C02023/07/11(火) 12:11:11.40
「作品に罪はない」
「私の姿勢を忖度と解釈するなら構わない。そういう方々に私の音楽は不要でしょう」

完全に矛盾しているね

289名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EhgXHFth02023/07/11(火) 12:13:11.49
キムタクドラマで使用されたライドオンタイムを聞いた時点で
あまりの薄っぺらさに当時「この人もう枯れたんだな・・・」と思ってたが未だに一定のファンがいた事に驚き
291名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Wysporvq0
>>289
ん?

あれ昔の曲使っただけなんだが、、、

300名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EhgXHFth0
>>291
え?・・・と言うことは昔からあんな薄っぺらかったって事?
ドラマのタイアップであんな薄っぺらいの作ったのかと
思ってたのに寧ろそっちの方が驚きなんだけど・・・
304名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rN0/1g6q0
>>300
ちなみにどんな音楽なら合うと思う?
432名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZHasAcFB0
>>300
お前の好みに合わないのと薄っぺらいは違うんだぜ
292名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8S20Acza02023/07/11(火) 12:16:02.10
性加害は悪業だが 恩義ある人を悪く
言いたくないってんなら なおさら沈黙が
一番の対応だった筈
196名無しさん@恐縮ですID:49G5rQTr0
川´3`) 山下達郎ライブを語るスレ#76 (315レス)
上下前次1-新
294(3): 07/11(火)10:29 AAS
誰もコンサートを中止してジャニさんの葬式に参列した事をツッコまないのかな
295: 07/11(火)10:41 AAS
>>292
296: 07/11(火)10:50 AAS
>>294
シーッ!黙って

まあコンサートまってるファンよりジャニー喜多川の方が大切なんだなって見せつけられたな
297: 07/11(火)10:52 AAS
欧米がアフガニスタン撤退後に何故かケシ畑が99%激減。小麦畑になる [633746646] (243レス)
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64: (ワッチョイ a1af-N/Lw) 06/08(木)23:19 ID:mEoSqDXP0(1/3) AAS
2000年にもタリバンはケシの栽培を禁止して麻薬を撲滅してるんだよな
翌年にアメリカがアフガンに侵攻して麻薬生産を復活させた
画像リンク[png]:i.imgur.com

アメリカがタリバ追い出して代わりに据えた傀儡政権の大統領ハーミド・カルザイは
CIA協力者の麻薬王アフマド・ワリー・カルザイの兄

293名無しさん@恐縮ですID:g74PHqtG02023/07/11(火) 12:16:17.33
もう終わりだね
294名無しさん@恐縮ですID:alXt+ea+02023/07/11(火) 12:16:31.80
確定してるとうか、司法で敗訴になった件は少ないんだけども
疑惑で言えば相当な数だからね
それをチャラに出来る功績って、何なの?って俺みたいな一般人なおっさんは思うわけ
それ以上の人の命を死から救ったとか、凄い発明をして人類の生活が豊かになったとかあればね
俺もジャニーさんすげえって言うけどさ、現状それは言えねえわ
196名無しさん@恐縮ですID:49G5rQTr0
川´3`) 山下達郎ライブを語るスレ#76 (315レス)
上下前次1-新
294(3): 07/11(火)10:29 AAS
誰もコンサートを中止してジャニさんの葬式に参列した事をツッコまないのかな
295: 07/11(火)10:41 AAS
>>292
296: 07/11(火)10:50 AAS
>>294
シーッ!黙って

まあコンサートまってるファンよりジャニー喜多川の方が大切なんだなって見せつけられたな
297: 07/11(火)10:52 AAS
欧米がアフガニスタン撤退後に何故かケシ畑が99%激減。小麦畑になる [633746646] (243レス)
上下前次1-新
このスレッドは過去ログ倉庫に格納されています。
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64: (ワッチョイ a1af-N/Lw) 06/08(木)23:19 ID:mEoSqDXP0(1/3) AAS
2000年にもタリバンはケシの栽培を禁止して麻薬を撲滅してるんだよな
翌年にアメリカがアフガンに侵攻して麻薬生産を復活させた
画像リンク[png]:i.imgur.com

アメリカがタリバ追い出して代わりに据えた傀儡政権の大統領ハーミド・カルザイは
CIA協力者の麻薬王アフマド・ワリー・カルザイの兄

295名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rN0/1g6q0
>>294
それはそれってだけの話じゃね?
296名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V+r+FVXi02023/07/11(火) 12:18:30.92
でもさぁ一般人もファンも昔からみんな知ってたんでしょ
ジャニーさんや他関係者の方々を批判する事なくグッズを買い、せっせとコンサート行ってたんでしょ
知らんふり、臭い物には蓋をしろ、で上部のキラキラを楽しんでたんでしょ
同じ穴の狢じゃない?
他人の事棚に上げ過ぎじゃない?
まぁ山下達郎も散々稼げたからもういいんじゃない?引退して平和に過ごすのも良いんじゃない?て感じやけど
297名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V+r+FVXi02023/07/11(火) 12:18:39.08
でもさぁ一般人もファンも昔からみんな知ってたんでしょ
ジャニーさんや他関係者の方々を批判する事なくグッズを買い、せっせとコンサート行ってたんでしょ
知らんふり、臭い物には蓋をしろ、で上部のキラキラを楽しんでたんでしょ
同じ穴の狢じゃない?
他人の事棚に上げ過ぎじゃない?
まぁ山下達郎も散々稼げたからもういいんじゃない?引退して平和に過ごすのも良いんじゃない?て感じやけど
298名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8CUkt4q802023/07/11(火) 12:18:52.71
ジャニーの性的虐待と
ジャニーのタレント発掘&プロデュース力
は切り離して考えるべきて言ってる一方で
山下本人がミックスしちゃってるのがなんともね

件の松尾と山下の間には
一番大切にしてるであろうご縁とご恩がなかった、と言っちゃってるのも
よくないわ

299名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8S20Acza02023/07/11(火) 12:18:56.85
どうしても反論したいならほとぼりが冷めて
から「実はあの時は・・・」ってやらないと
今の段階では何を言っても更に炎上するだけ
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