100名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6HWIfH0J02023/07/11(火) 10:28:54.94
この期に及んで「ジャニー最高」なんて叫んだらそら総スカン食らうよ
345名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PkOHNpGR0
>>100
ブレない
SNSもやらないし、留まってる人だと思う
ブレない
SNSもやらないし、留まってる人だと思う
101名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:z9OSUE/p02023/07/11(火) 10:30:03.74
性加害を個人的に批判した奴をクビにするとか、言論の自由どこ言ったよ
日本ヤバイ
日本ヤバイ
103名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2ImbO+iV02023/07/11(火) 10:31:14.46
同義に聞こえるかもしれないがファンを止めるというより 無視 眼中にない 空気のような存在 と言った方がいいかな
ああ…そんな人いたっけ となるだけやない
ああ…そんな人いたっけ となるだけやない
104名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZLjsx8GH02023/07/11(火) 10:34:21.96
惰性で長年ファンだった人が決め手になったんじゃない？
105オクタゴンID:7Qp1YoYL02023/07/11(火) 10:34:40.51
事実を憶測と言いきる老害ぶりはもう手に負えない
山下はもう要らないポイしましょう
山下はもう要らないポイしましょう
106名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wborGmlT02023/07/11(火) 10:34:55.67
なんだかなぁ
残念
この程度の人か
残念
この程度の人か
107名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5lHyekXB02023/07/11(火) 10:35:24.99
元々空気な曲ばかりだったが、今後は聴く方に嫌悪感を抱かせるってだけ
125名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:16v8CJhb0
>>107
空気だからタイアップに使いやすかったのに、これからは厳しい気がする
空気だからタイアップに使いやすかったのに、これからは厳しい気がする
鈴木宗男の支持を公言してもファンがいるから関係ないっていう松山千春とは根本的にちがうよなぁ
108名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WMtP5DOc02023/07/11(火) 10:35:55.83
ライヴのチケットキャンセルしてくれよ
6会場申し込んで全滅だった俺に回ってくるかもだろ
6会場申し込んで全滅だった俺に回ってくるかもだろ
159名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:to1kiihQ0
>>108
良かったね
性加害容認者が集まるってことだもんね
キンモー
忖度と思う奴は聞くなと自分で言ってるから
人間性と音楽は切り離して聞くなってことー
良かったね
性加害容認者が集まるってことだもんね
キンモー
忖度と思う奴は聞くなと自分で言ってるから
人間性と音楽は切り離して聞くなってことー
109名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/KpCCDvY02023/07/11(火) 10:37:21.29
あんなんは言わんほうがよかっただろとは思う
110名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cUlwnNH/02023/07/11(火) 10:38:01.72
山達とジャニーズというかメリーとの関係は昨日今日じゃないしな
メリーによる明菜公開処刑の時も山達ガッツリ絡んでたし
今更ファンやめたって連中は何も知らなすぎてるだけ
メリーによる明菜公開処刑の時も山達ガッツリ絡んでたし
今更ファンやめたって連中は何も知らなすぎてるだけ
111名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5lHyekXB02023/07/11(火) 10:38:29.50
言うだろ
松尾氏としては二代目社長なんか眼中無くて、事務所誘ってくれた山達の見解が全てだから
松尾氏としては二代目社長なんか眼中無くて、事務所誘ってくれた山達の見解が全てだから
114名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ORhXrhtO02023/07/11(火) 10:39:22.01
芸能ニュースに疎いわいのかあちゃん50のドンピシャ世代なんだが、この発言を知ってショック受けてたわ
115名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rhqAQxlc02023/07/11(火) 10:40:27.70
＞臆測に基づく一方的な批判をしたことが
憶測だと～ふざけんな妖怪
116名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oDMZOG1K02023/07/11(火) 10:42:21.92
実写版麗子像みてえなツラしやがって
160名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:to1kiihQ0
>>116
麗子さんは深みがある
一緒にしないで
麗子さんは深みがある
一緒にしないで
117名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kXrsYA3Z02023/07/11(火) 10:43:12.15
この件の背後に居る『ファンでは無い存在』の正体、共産党やナニカグループの関係者だったりしてね。
119名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xiRHvuGd02023/07/11(火) 10:45:29.66
あの薄気味悪い不気味な油絵ジャケを見た瞬間から
不吉な予感がした。
それが正に今回の事だったのだよ明智君。
不吉な予感がした。
それが正に今回の事だったのだよ明智君。
142名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AZ/pd2bS0
>>119
描いたヤマザキマリもスマイルカンパニー所属で松尾批判記事にいいねしてしまったというやらかしをし
山下より彼女にがっかりなんだわ
描いたヤマザキマリもスマイルカンパニー所属で松尾批判記事にいいねしてしまったというやらかしをし
山下より彼女にがっかりなんだわ
156名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FrXPYFlO0
>>142
平素からのヤマザキの言説をなんとも思わなかったのかね
平素からのヤマザキの言説をなんとも思わなかったのかね
120名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FHmw9eEz02023/07/11(火) 10:46:08.68
コアファンよりも、クリスマスソングだけ知ってるライトファンの比率圧倒的高そうな気はする。
122名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:16v8CJhb0
>>120
タイアップ多いしね
むしろファンはコアしかなくて、多数は聞いたことがある・知ってるっていう層なんじゃないかな？
タイアップ多いしね
むしろファンはコアしかなくて、多数は聞いたことがある・知ってるっていう層なんじゃないかな？
176名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8L7WGZoV0
>>122
クラッシックと同じレベルだよ
新曲出されても興味無い
ただクリスマスに町中に流れる
バレンタインの時の国生さゆりと同じ
クラッシックと同じレベルだよ
新曲出されても興味無い
ただクリスマスに町中に流れる
バレンタインの時の国生さゆりと同じ
123名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iYb9rbo402023/07/11(火) 10:52:06.87
山下達郎も70なんだろ？
頑固さと偏屈さが出てきてもなんの不思議はないだろ
頑固さと偏屈さが出てきてもなんの不思議はないだろ
124名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gRwwt3s702023/07/11(火) 10:52:37.70
資産価値みたいなもんよ
126名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S/UKmXbM02023/07/11(火) 10:53:43.15
見た目もキモいが言うこともキモいオッサン
127名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pu5qbwVP02023/07/11(火) 10:53:49.03
山下達郎「ジャニーさんはかわいいやつはデビューさせたくないんです」硝子の少年秘話語る
↑
性加害を知らなかったやつのセリフじゃないよな
↑
性加害を知らなかったやつのセリフじゃないよな
128名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S4hkNjWD02023/07/11(火) 10:54:24.93
あーあ山下もメクれたかw(´・∀・｀)
129名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZnNcBxQs02023/07/11(火) 10:55:07.08
同業のアーティストをけなすのって達郎しか思い浮かばない
なんなのこいつ
130名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ro1xauNo02023/07/11(火) 10:55:53.32
自分はアルバムをほぼ全部もってるコアなファンだろう。
達朗の言説もかなり聞いてるしほぼ全面的に賛同してきたと思う。
達朗の言説もかなり聞いてるしほぼ全面的に賛同してきたと思う。
しかし今回は１００％だめだ。
ジャニーズにたいするご恩・ご縁とか、この時期に口に出すべきじゃ
絶対ない。
全国民の神経を逆なでにするものだ。
一体、達郎のジャニーズ全面支援メッセージとか誰が賛同する？
ジャニーズの盲目的ファンでさえここまでいうかと
引くレベルの
これでもかという
ジャニー喜多川への敬意と絶賛、ジャニーズへの賞賛で
埋めつくされたメッセージだった。
せめて性犯罪糾弾５割で、それでもジャニー喜多川・ジャニーズを賞賛５割に
とどめていればこんな大騒動になってファンがほぼ全員消えるリスクにならなかった。
放送内容は、
１ジャニー喜多川・ジャニーズへの全面的絶賛賞賛とご縁ご恩最優先の決意表明 ９９％超
２性加害犯罪は悪い １％未満
という内容で聴いてきてこいつはジャニー喜多川の生霊かというレベルだった。
はっきりいって日本国民全員に喧嘩を売った。
勿論、達郎は袋叩きになって足腰立たないレベルに１００％される。
まさに全滅戦争を仕掛けた。
お前は武田勝頼かと。
131名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VhV4VXEu02023/07/11(火) 10:56:30.85
松下さん、悲しいよ
133名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MOVQp7KX02023/07/11(火) 10:57:24.73
爽やかな嫌悪感をありがとう
134名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pu5qbwVP02023/07/11(火) 10:58:23.37
「ジャニーさんは、かわいいやつはデビューさせたくないんです」とし、「キンキも、（アルバム1曲目の）『Kissからはじまるミステリー』でデビューのはずだったが、ジャニーさんがイヤだと言った。デビューさせたくないと。で、次に『硝子の少年』を書いて、それもイヤだと言って。アルバムでデビューさせたいと言うので、しょうがないのでアルバムとシングルを同一パッケージ仕様にして」
「愛情の強さというかね、少年隊とかも、いつまでも手元に置きたいと」
↑
この手元に置きたいって、どういう意味で言ってるの？って話でね
デビューさせずに愛人にしたいってことを知ってたとしか思えない
「愛情の強さというかね、少年隊とかも、いつまでも手元に置きたいと」
↑
この手元に置きたいって、どういう意味で言ってるの？って話でね
デビューさせずに愛人にしたいってことを知ってたとしか思えない
154名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rhqAQxlc0
>>134
わあ～ジャニーとズブズブじゃん
すっとぼけんなよ妖怪
わあ～ジャニーとズブズブじゃん
すっとぼけんなよ妖怪
180名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OExcTpJT0
>>134
でもKinKiはデビュー前から既に大人気でデビューしたかのように間違うほどだったからな
金田一主演して高視聴率30%出したのもデビュー前
でもKinKiはデビュー前から既に大人気でデビューしたかのように間違うほどだったからな
金田一主演して高視聴率30%出したのもデビュー前
184名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/1pHYaOK0
>>180
愛人だからデビューさせないっていうのは、デビュー前は無名のような印象操作だよね
キンキはデビュー前から国民的人気だったわ
愛人だからデビューさせないっていうのは、デビュー前は無名のような印象操作だよね
キンキはデビュー前から国民的人気だったわ
198名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:a2RUM7cO0
>>180
251: 07/05(水)15:35 ID:NpDjxmBD0
もう30年前から言いたかったこと書いておく
キンキがデビューして
剛にスポットライトめっちゃ当たってて
美男子美少年言われまくって
光一がなんかひねくれ始めて
司会だけの役回りかと思ってた
けどスペオキは光一だったんやね
251: 07/05(水)15:35 ID:NpDjxmBD0
もう30年前から言いたかったこと書いておく
キンキがデビューして
剛にスポットライトめっちゃ当たってて
美男子美少年言われまくって
光一がなんかひねくれ始めて
司会だけの役回りかと思ってた
けどスペオキは光一だったんやね
そして剛はどちらかというとラッキーポジションで努力家だから続いんだろうね
そして過去動画など見ててもいつも剛が光一に言動を気遣っているのはやはり光一の方がパワーあるからなんだなぁと思った
199名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:a2RUM7cO0
>>180
251: 07/05(水)15:35 ID:NpDjxmBD0
もう30年前から言いたかったこと書いておく
キンキがデビューして
剛にスポットライトめっちゃ当たってて
美男子美少年言われまくって
光一がなんかひねくれ始めて
司会だけの役回りかと思ってた
けどスペオキは光一だったんやね
251: 07/05(水)15:35 ID:NpDjxmBD0
もう30年前から言いたかったこと書いておく
キンキがデビューして
剛にスポットライトめっちゃ当たってて
美男子美少年言われまくって
光一がなんかひねくれ始めて
司会だけの役回りかと思ってた
けどスペオキは光一だったんやね
そして剛はどちらかというとラッキーポジションで努力家だから続いんだろうね
そして過去動画など見ててもいつも剛が光一に言動を気遣っているのはやはり光一の方がパワーあるからなんだなぁと思った
264名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rhqAQxlc0
>>134
「愛情が強いとデビューさせないで手元に置いておきたい」
「愛情が強いとデビューさせないで手元に置いておきたい」
意味が分からないよな そんなにかわいい子なんだから売れるために
世に出さないとダメでしょ なんだよ手元に置きたいって
山下は当時どう解釈したんだよ？
当時もジャニーの性加害の漠然とした噂があった中でさ
135名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BdpGxYQb02023/07/11(火) 10:59:32.04
最初の契約の所だけ触れてあとはすっとぼけておけばよかったのに
不器用で義理堅い？人なのかなと思た
不器用で義理堅い？人なのかなと思た
136名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Zoro5XNW02023/07/11(火) 11:00:02.96
テスト
失礼しました
失礼しました
138名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UDJZ/3/202023/07/11(火) 11:01:26.65
山上、山下と来たから次は山中さんの出番かな？
139名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+9qEIXgo02023/07/11(火) 11:01:46.56
クリスマスイブだけではなく、80年代90年代の長い間に多くの曲をチャートインさせているので
もうちょっといろんな曲を知ってるファンが多いと思うよ
treasuresというベスト盤は売れた
もうちょっといろんな曲を知ってるファンが多いと思うよ
treasuresというベスト盤は売れた
140名無しさん＠恐縮です2023/07/11(火) 11:01:48.71
メクラ信者しか残らんな
まともな神経してたら山下の音楽なんか聞けない
まともな神経してたら山下の音楽なんか聞けない
141名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZnNcBxQs02023/07/11(火) 11:02:08.35
性奴隷が頭をよぎるから達郎の曲は聞きたくない
143名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Y4cGKubd02023/07/11(火) 11:02:20.79
今更人気が落ちても気にしないでしょ
晩節を汚した感は否めないが
達郎といえばベスト盤が大コケした印象しかないｗ
晩節を汚した感は否めないが
達郎といえばベスト盤が大コケした印象しかないｗ
144名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ro1xauNo02023/07/11(火) 11:02:26.24
ジャニー喜多川は、少年愛なんてなまやさしいものでは
全くなかった。
いわゆる「りんじょく」でとんでもない暴力的なものがあった。
全くなかった。
いわゆる「りんじょく」でとんでもない暴力的なものがあった。
入所数日の小中学生に襲い掛かり
痛い痛いというのに陰茎を肛門に押し込んで
ピストン運動を行い精液をぶちまけていた。
決まった相手でなくまさしく手当たり次第に強姦しまくっていた。
性欲キチガイだよ。
151名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CjqIZLED0
>>144
根拠あるの？
根拠あるの？
ジャニー喜多川を擁護するつもりはないから
本当にそうなら刑事事件にすべきで
加害者が死んでからごちゃごちゃ言う前に
生きてる時に捕まえるべき
ジャニー喜多川が警察や検察を黙らせるほど権力があったと思えないから
157名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ro1xauNo0
>>151
週刊誌で実名で本人が詳細にインタビューで
悲惨な状況を伝えている
週刊誌で実名で本人が詳細にインタビューで
悲惨な状況を伝えている
165名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ULodHIay0
>>157
それが本当かどうかわからないからね
嘘をついているかもしれないし、
記憶があいまいになってるのかもしれない
それが本当かどうかわからないからね
嘘をついているかもしれないし、
記憶があいまいになってるのかもしれない
158名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ro1xauNo0
>>151
ニュース板＋ですでにたっていた。
読んでないのか？
ニュース板＋ですでにたっていた。
読んでないのか？
ニュース読んでいて吐き気するとする内容だ。
145名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6JUbuLRK02023/07/11(火) 11:02:36.86
ファン辞めたとかわざわざ言うやつは元々ファンじゃない定期
147名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CjqIZLED02023/07/11(火) 11:03:48.13
この手の日本の芸能界炎上ネタが
性接待や強制性交が頻々とニュースになる
お近くの音楽業界には切り込まないのは本当に謎
Kナントカは性交強要やパワハラないの？
性接待や強制性交が頻々とニュースになる
お近くの音楽業界には切り込まないのは本当に謎
Kナントカは性交強要やパワハラないの？
148名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lcdAK/xp02023/07/11(火) 11:04:02.66
SNSをやってないからと言って電波の私物化はダメだろ。
149名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:to1kiihQ02023/07/11(火) 11:05:20.19
収録だからうっかり言ったのではない
って、収録だったのかよ！
って、収録だったのかよ！
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