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50名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8Fop0ikO02023/07/11(火) 09:51:20.49
音楽バカ
これは蔑んで言ってるんじゃない
大山倍達の「空手バカ」と同じで何かにひたむきに打ち込む姿勢に敬意を持って言ってるんだ
51名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JLo30s8N02023/07/11(火) 09:53:26.61
なんで特定の叩きやすいミュージシャンだけ批判されるんだかわからん。
過去50年間にどれだけの人間はジャニーズと商取引をしたと思ってるんだ?
73名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ojoronp20
>>51
ミュージシャンとして発言したんじゃなくて
契約解除を行った側という社会的存在として発言してるんだもん

法人を代表して話す人間として評されるのは当たり前だし
敬意を持った捉え方だろ

なぜかそこに「音楽家のオレ」も不自然に突っ込んでるのが
誠に不可解だけれど

52名無しさん@恐縮ですID:196D8tLf02023/07/11(火) 09:54:08.07
やまたつ見た目もキモいし嫌いだったけど
Twitterで攻撃してる奴が左翼のヤベーやつばかりで草
53名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d2ySGsXo02023/07/11(火) 09:54:08.94
「ファン辞めます」ってネットでお約束の「お前元々ファンじゃねえだろ」ネタだと思うんだが…
真に受けすぎだろゲンダイ
54名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zDIWZD6E02023/07/11(火) 09:54:51.18
山下世代ではないのだが、
体制に取り込まれた元パヨクって認識でいい?
69名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ULodHIay0
>>54
ジャニーズは批判できるけどpenlignt(韓国慰安婦団体)は批判できないので、
どっちかといえば松尾が体制側じゃない?
55名無しさん@恐縮です2023/07/11(火) 09:55:03.14
ネトウヨ応援団が新規参入したから問題ない
56名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6Mqi2Adi02023/07/11(火) 09:56:09.49
きっと君は関西人
間違いなく関西人
さいでんな〜 ほ〜でんなぁ
523名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7qv7fLwH0
>>56
めちゃくちゃ面白い!貴方天才
532名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ch3+yOrm0
>>523
それ嘉門達夫のネタだぞ
535名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7qv7fLwH0
>>532
教えてくれてありがとうございます。 調べてみます
57名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SF11mA+k02023/07/11(火) 09:56:32.71
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58名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bnGUItQ302023/07/11(火) 09:57:40.29
声だけじいさん
59名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bnGUItQ302023/07/11(火) 09:57:45.77
声だけじいさん
60名無しさん@恐縮ですID:o/Y3d+XS02023/07/11(火) 09:59:29.70
「雨が雪に変わる瞬間を見に行こうとか言われてない?」
61名無しさん@恐縮ですID:W1h79aeo02023/07/11(火) 10:00:08.18
山下だけじゃなくて、昭和の大御所ミュージシャンは、大体みんなジャニーズ忖度してるんじゃないの?

山下は事務所の経営者として、造反者にケジメつけさせなきゃいけない状況に、たまたまなったから判明しただけでさ

62名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v27Y7OFN02023/07/11(火) 10:00:12.74
これからも仕事ほしいからしょうがねーわ!とかぶっちゃけた方が良かったよね
63名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5PzgGGT202023/07/11(火) 10:01:18.65
エターナルコピペ山下版まだー?
64名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oPJb6bWk02023/07/11(火) 10:01:22.92
クリスマスイブの歌が好きな人はいても、ファンはほとんどいない説
65名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6NdxJ3Kg02023/07/11(火) 10:01:43.12
コアファンがどれだけ減るかだよな
ライトな連中は関心ないだろ

クリスマスのCMではもう使われないだろうけど

71名無しさん@恐縮ですID:m+ruwxSk0
>>65
広告制作会社は今から他アーティストのピックアップと過去のクリスマス名曲の版権確認しているのかも
JR東海とケンタッキー
66名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pu5qbwVP02023/07/11(火) 10:01:59.87
新興宗教の教祖様が小児性愛者で信者に何件もの性加害をやってました
でも私は教祖様に救われたのでこれからも崇拝します

要するに達郎が言ってるのはそういうこと
熱烈な新興宗教の信者さんで、コンプライアンスなんか投げ捨てるほど正気を失ってるわけ
洗脳されちゃってるんだから、何を言っても無駄
94名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lA0YjzBN0
>>66
そういう歪んだ例え話にしちゃうと説得力薄まる
ヒステリックな山下達郎アンチが目的化すれば、ジャニー喜多川の性的虐待問題とむしろ離れる

現時点ではっきりしてるのは、ネットで山下達郎に何を言っても本人には全く影響がないってこと
ヒステリックな攻撃の度が過ぎて誹謗中傷になれば、君が損する(事務所から訴えられて最悪、逮捕)ぞ

例える意味ないんだから、事実だけ書きな

554名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S4hkNjWD0
>>94
???
特にどこも歪んで見えないけど?
(´・∀・`)
67名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MZWQ+HdD02023/07/11(火) 10:02:44.45
おぉ~懐かしいなあヤマタツ
TATSUHIKO YAMAMOTO
68名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ksKTS/s+02023/07/11(火) 10:02:54.75
スレタイのタイトルが悪質wwww

わたしからは以上だな ミカエル(悟ったもの)より

72名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mBDzPcya02023/07/11(火) 10:05:52.67
想いは想いのままで
熱を失うだけ
74名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+9qEIXgo02023/07/11(火) 10:06:55.61
山下達郎が言う松尾の憶測とはジャニーズ事務所の対応が不十分という話についてであって、性加害についてではないだろう
ジャニーズはちゃんとしてないんじゃないかという憶測だ

松尾氏は実績のある音楽Pであって、マネジメント契約を解除したにすぎない
山下がそれをわざわざ言うのは、クビにしただの言論封殺しただのいうネットの声に対して釈明したものだ
また契約はスマイルカンパニーがしたもので、山下達郎が他人のマネジメントに口を出すはずはない
単に社長から説明を受けてそれを認めたに過ぎないのだろう
そもそも山下の盟友であり現社長の父親が始めた会社で、山下が他人のマネジメントに口を出すはずがないし
ジャニーズの仕事を多く受けているのにジャニーズ批判をしている人のマネジメントはできないという判断は社長がしたものだろう
仮に誰かに指図されるとすれば、それは父親かもしくは父親をサポートしてきた古参幹部ではないか
山下の名前が出てくる必然性が全くない

ジャニー喜多川の評価はここでするべきではなかった
喜多川は裏方であり、松尾氏がクビになったと松尾氏サポートのつもりで騒ぐ失礼な人間が多いように
裏方の名前など、どれだけ実績を残しても記憶に残らないのだ
ショウビズにかかわるものだけが評価してればいいことなのである

75名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vMTc4osu02023/07/11(火) 10:07:51.35
山下達郎の肖像画、超気持ち悪い。
76名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4NWJSu1o02023/07/11(火) 10:08:25.12
この人も会社も寧ろ告発した人達にせっかく上手く行ってたのに余計な事しやがってくらい思ってそう
じゃなかったらこんな上からコメントせんよね
77名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dmmvdckE02023/07/11(火) 10:09:04.54
危機管理のスペシャリストとかいう連中に任せればよかったのに
本人が自分の口で喋りたいとか頑張っちゃったんだろうな
以前、政治絡みの発言を番組内かどこかでやっちゃって
まわりからたしなめられたと言ってたことがあったから
元々そういう人なのかもしれない
435名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IGmiQ6Jy0
>>77
あー、痛いお爺ちゃんてことね
78名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kPxeX9Vc02023/07/11(火) 10:09:19.55
79名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LbjQCPi102023/07/11(火) 10:10:04.84
アンチはどうしてほしいのか意味わからん
曲提供の停止なら被害者にプラスの被害あるやん
80名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T3B9acd302023/07/11(火) 10:10:38.40
お前ら、元々ファンじゃねーだろw
まあ、俺もファンじゃないけど。
81名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wVo8WHOw02023/07/11(火) 10:11:09.26
変なのw
83名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SDQn7PA/02023/07/11(火) 10:13:28.91
ゲンダイ(笑)
84名無しさん@恐縮ですID:y80rys3O02023/07/11(火) 10:13:37.29
不思議なスピーチしっぱぁ〜い♪

く、苦しい

85名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XCLnMtsL02023/07/11(火) 10:14:33.66
山下達郎がどうしたらよかったんだ
ずっとジャニと仕事してきて何か言えるわけでもない
肝心のジャニーは死んでるし
92名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mrbK53sS0
>>85
首にしないでスルーしとけば良かったろ
98名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FHmw9eEz0
>>85
普通に傍観決め込むのが一番賢いのに、一番馬鹿な行動とって自滅したのが今回のケースだろう。
まあジャニはこうやって権力維持してきたんだろうなってのが可視化されて良かった。
86名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lmYoOcJU02023/07/11(火) 10:14:52.34
あんだけ叩かれてたのに急に擁護されはじめたからなんか雇ったのかと思ったけど松尾って人がアカ系だからネトウヨが湧いてきたのか
90名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+9qEIXgo0
>>86
逆にアカ系の人が山下たたきに一斉に参加してずれた認識で印象操作にいそしんでる
95名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xnMB1Six0
>>90
そこに対する総ツッコミなだけだよね
102名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lmYoOcJU0
>>90
いやそれはないでしょ
松尾って人の思想ははじめは知られてないから山下ひでーなってなってたのを後から左翼だって知った連中が逆に叩きにきた印象
87名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BT8m4/FU02023/07/11(火) 10:16:04.10
忖度とか長いものに~とかでなく単純に
お世話になった人に対して良いも悪いも無いって事だと思うけどね
88名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SDXrtSSC02023/07/11(火) 10:17:22.44
テスト書き込みです。
ここも規制外れてるかな?
89名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2Y7Oq3Fh02023/07/11(火) 10:18:40.36
5ch見られないの達郎アタックかと思ったけど山下アタックだったんだな
91名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dJaQPdLz02023/07/11(火) 10:19:16.88
今年からは、クリスマス前に
こいつの歌を聴かされずに済むよな
93名無しさん@恐縮ですID:74vDy3/h02023/07/11(火) 10:21:30.67
60年に渡る被害者数千人という人類史上稀に見る児童レイプ事件だぞ
しかも、仕事関係はもちろんのことファンや子供たちの親まで
ほとんどの人が知っていたにも関わらず、見て見ぬふりをしてきたという鬼畜の事件
ジャニーズと仕事上関わってきたすべての関係者は、営利のため被害児童を
見殺しにしてきたことを謝罪すべきだろう
96名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+9qEIXgo0
>>93
筆頭はテレビ局だな
97名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T2QApLsb02023/07/11(火) 10:27:50.26
佳子様を揶揄するときに使われるだけのイメージ
99名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GRChp8Kj02023/07/11(火) 10:28:27.97
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