500sageID:KOMcCWnb02023/07/11(火) 15:01:32.00
>>1-10
山下達郎は…
山下達郎は…
●を2に変えると分かる
https://ai.●ch.sc/test/read.cgi/psy/1592904915/3
https://ai.ai.
503名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dzjbnGwH02023/07/11(火) 15:04:21.17
どう考えても
長年看過してきたメディアのほうが責任が大きいのに
単に犯罪者と交流があっただけの山下達郎がメディアから干されたら満足って
どういう正義感なんですかね
長年看過してきたメディアのほうが責任が大きいのに
単に犯罪者と交流があっただけの山下達郎がメディアから干されたら満足って
どういう正義感なんですかね
507名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oMznMc7w0
>>503
「メディア」ってのは多岐に渡るからねぇ。
達郎は達郎しかいないからその「個」に対して攻撃しやすいって部分はあるかも
「メディア」ってのは多岐に渡るからねぇ。
達郎は達郎しかいないからその「個」に対して攻撃しやすいって部分はあるかも
505名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hGDpg6Mh02023/07/11(火) 15:04:58.54
ファン止めた奴は今まで達郎に何を求めてたんだよw
508名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oMznMc7w0
>>505
ほんとそれw
尾崎とかなら分からんでもないけど、達郎に対して人間性に惹かれて音楽聴いてます
って人いるのかなw
ほんとそれw
尾崎とかなら分からんでもないけど、達郎に対して人間性に惹かれて音楽聴いてます
って人いるのかなw
511名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YVZ5+slo0
>>508
少なくともリアル知り合いに、児童レイプ推奨派と思われたくないから、距離を置くのでは？
少なくともリアル知り合いに、児童レイプ推奨派と思われたくないから、距離を置くのでは？
513名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oMznMc7w0
>>511
「ファンは何を求めてたか？」って話だよね？
「ファンは何を求めてたか？」って話だよね？
518名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YVZ5+slo0
>>513
人間性を求めいなくても
少なくともリアル知り合いに児童レイプ推奨派と思われたくないから距離を置くのでは？
人間性を求めいなくても
少なくともリアル知り合いに児童レイプ推奨派と思われたくないから距離を置くのでは？
519名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oMznMc7w0
>>518
うん、それはそう思う
うん、それはそう思う
547名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jXVSn4nL0
>>508
限度があるんじゃない
薬だったら好きにしてくれだけど
性加害擁護はね
しかもジャニーと何十年ズブズブで知らなかったと嘘ついて
限度があるんじゃない
薬だったら好きにしてくれだけど
性加害擁護はね
しかもジャニーと何十年ズブズブで知らなかったと嘘ついて
551名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eDgFwxa10
>>547
そういうところの話じゃないよw
青春 とか 人生が とかそういうの
そういうところの話じゃないよw
青春 とか 人生が とかそういうの
509名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VyLF/64v02023/07/11(火) 15:08:08.76
自分が事務所に誘った相手をよく知らない人扱いにして
どこが「ご縁」「義理人情」なんですかね
どこが「ご縁」「義理人情」なんですかね
512名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oMznMc7w0
>>509
相手、他人がどう思うんじゃないんだよ。
「自分」がどう思う、考えるか だからw
相手、他人がどう思うんじゃないんだよ。
「自分」がどう思う、考えるか だからw
556名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S4hkNjWD0
>>509
www
（´・∀・｀）
www
（´・∀・｀）
514名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:63ufo2i302023/07/11(火) 15:12:17.62
タツローのチケットは入手困難！
其れは今も同じ！
其れは今も同じ！
どんだけ君ら底辺がオオカミ少年か分かる
赤いオオカミ少年
515名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hmrJo01s02023/07/11(火) 15:13:00.65
smap騒動の時
こいつの会社の社長がジャニーズ
経営陣にいてなんか説教垂れていたじゃん
あれでなんかいや〜な感じがしたよ
文面もそうだが、なんていうの
ズブズブ感とでも言おうか
ハイティーンブギとかガラスの少年
は知っていたが
なるほどキムタクのドラマ主題歌に
竹内まりやや山下達郎使われてる
のはこういうカラクリかって
綺麗な言葉で言えば繋がりや絆なんだろうけど
利権とか取引とかそんな臭いがしたわ
こんなのばっかりなんだろうな
この国は
そりゃ韓国に抜かれるよ
こいつの会社の社長がジャニーズ
経営陣にいてなんか説教垂れていたじゃん
あれでなんかいや〜な感じがしたよ
文面もそうだが、なんていうの
ズブズブ感とでも言おうか
ハイティーンブギとかガラスの少年
は知っていたが
なるほどキムタクのドラマ主題歌に
竹内まりやや山下達郎使われてる
のはこういうカラクリかって
綺麗な言葉で言えば繋がりや絆なんだろうけど
利権とか取引とかそんな臭いがしたわ
こんなのばっかりなんだろうな
この国は
そりゃ韓国に抜かれるよ
516名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dzjbnGwH02023/07/11(火) 15:13:08.12
ファンとして、山下達郎本人のためにこういうスピーチをしないでほしかった、
というファンの気持ちは十分理解できるが
山下達郎がジャニーズ事務所に与しているから気に入らない
という部類の批判は芸能界で生きるアーティストに対して要求が過大すぎるよ
というファンの気持ちは十分理解できるが
山下達郎がジャニーズ事務所に与しているから気に入らない
という部類の批判は芸能界で生きるアーティストに対して要求が過大すぎるよ
541名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hmrJo01s0
>>516
飛鳥も氷室布袋も椎名林檎も米津玄師も長渕も
まぁ名だたるミュージシャンは
ジャニーズに楽曲提供してるけど
山下達郎はちょっとズブズブ感が違うよ
何せ経営陣が同じだからな
飛鳥も氷室布袋も椎名林檎も米津玄師も長渕も
まぁ名だたるミュージシャンは
ジャニーズに楽曲提供してるけど
山下達郎はちょっとズブズブ感が違うよ
何せ経営陣が同じだからな
517名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ro1xauNo02023/07/11(火) 15:13:18.04
全面謝罪か引退声明の２つしか道は残ってない。
他の道をとれば、完全に名声は地に落ちるし
影響力もなくなり、日本ポップス音楽史における評価も
一気に落ちる。
ラジオ放送でいくらでも活路見いだせたのに
みずから完全に自滅した。
しかし、全面謝罪か引退声明
によって失地回復の余地はまだ残されている。
完全に自滅の道を進むか
再生の道を選ぶかだ。
まさに武田勝頼と同じだ。
520名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dqq/5I7x02023/07/11(火) 15:17:53.71
裁判でも文春勝訴で事実認定されたんやろ
521名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:R4pgYUYr02023/07/11(火) 15:20:07.78
>「ファンやめた」「CD捨てた」「目が覚めた」「もう聞かない」
こういうこと言うやつはファンでもないしCDも買ってない
526名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FRf9HYkZ0
>>521
いや俺の青春時代を牽引した人だったけどね
名物編集長だったから、それから馬場さんにカネは貰うわ
奥さん寝取られるわ、そこで今回の件
もうターザン山本の事は完全に忘れます
いや俺の青春時代を牽引した人だったけどね
名物編集長だったから、それから馬場さんにカネは貰うわ
奥さん寝取られるわ、そこで今回の件
もうターザン山本の事は完全に忘れます
522名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9rWN1Vez02023/07/11(火) 15:22:34.42
大御所の達郎ですら意見言えないなんて
口にするのもはばかられる
芸能界最大のタブー案件を裏付けただけやないか
そんなんでよく社会の不条理を唄えたもんやな
口にするのもはばかられる
芸能界最大のタブー案件を裏付けただけやないか
そんなんでよく社会の不条理を唄えたもんやな
525名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oMznMc7w0
>>522
いやいや、「商業音楽」だからw
何を夢見てるのあなたはw
いやいや、「商業音楽」だからw
何を夢見てるのあなたはw
524名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X0bNRqBM02023/07/11(火) 15:26:35.48
マスコミは達郎全面擁護だと思ったが活字は結構斬り込んでくる
集英社オンラインの記事もまともだ
TVは達郎の下衆さには斬り込めない
集英社オンラインの記事もまともだ
TVは達郎の下衆さには斬り込めない
527名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AFky8S3/02023/07/11(火) 15:28:07.34
なんだゲンダイか。
528名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iVduOp8N02023/07/11(火) 15:32:50.07
お前らはネット合唱部?
530名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6uWFVyR202023/07/11(火) 15:35:08.26
ラジオでの発言でフェミから降板署名活動までおこされたナイナイ岡村
531名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:og4AdhdW02023/07/11(火) 15:35:58.93
元からファンじゃなかったくせにこんな時だけ熱心に叩く奴らｗ
540名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FRf9HYkZ0
>>531
アタシらはそこに流行りの神輿があったら
担ぐだけなんだよ
今までイジられもしない小物の山下には分からんだろうが
アタシらはそこに流行りの神輿があったら
担ぐだけなんだよ
今までイジられもしない小物の山下には分からんだろうが
533名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xYyeIqdm02023/07/11(火) 15:38:31.21
うん
534名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:63ufo2i302023/07/11(火) 15:41:10.01
タツローの熊アクリル売り上げ良いね
536名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kWpbEcFQ02023/07/11(火) 15:48:27.74
中古しか買わないから、ファンを辞めようがない
537名無しさん＠恐縮です2023/07/11(火) 15:50:37.67
再謝罪しないと
538名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UCw+hXjm02023/07/11(火) 15:53:18.43
ファン以外が騒いでるだけでしょ
世間はそこまでジャニーズ問題興味ないよ
騒いでギャーギャー言ってるの共産党系のじじばば動員でしょ
世間はそこまでジャニーズ問題興味ないよ
騒いでギャーギャー言ってるの共産党系のじじばば動員でしょ
558名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S4hkNjWD0
>>538
やっぱりジャニ擁護の背景には統一教会が絡んでるの？
（´・∀・｀）
やっぱりジャニ擁護の背景には統一教会が絡んでるの？
（´・∀・｀）
539名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fyTX988x02023/07/11(火) 15:53:23.26
よく知らんかったけどベスト盤でも買ってみるか
クリスマスイブなら知ってるが
あとライドオンタイムか
クリスマスイブなら知ってるが
あとライドオンタイムか
542名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:w+PIYa2c02023/07/11(火) 15:55:51.87
ジャニヲタが達郎のCＤ買ったりライブ来たりするんかな
まあジジババばかりの客より達郎も喜ぶからいいんじゃないの
まあジジババばかりの客より達郎も喜ぶからいいんじゃないの
545名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Qr+5XrLx0
>>542
大半のジャニオタはババだから
見た目の客層はさほど変わらないっていう
大半のジャニオタはババだから
見た目の客層はさほど変わらないっていう
543名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7qv7fLwH02023/07/11(火) 15:58:02.66
関係ないけど、松尾潔さんイケメンやと思う。 死ぬほどモテそう。 VBA2(EXILEの番組で放送してたオーディション)で初めて見た時からめちゃくちゃイケメンでかっこよくて素敵やなあと思ってた。
548名無しさん＠恐縮です2023/07/11(火) 16:06:28.60
ネトウヨの連中はみんなファンになったって言ってるよな
549名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1fcmb0QU02023/07/11(火) 16:09:50.44
もし私の読解力がないなら教えてほしいんだが、
「嫌なら聞くな」とは一言も言ってないよね？
忖度と感じる人には、私の音楽は不要でしょう
と言っただけなのに、なぜそれが嫌なら聞くなになるの？
あと、性加害を容認しているわけではないとも言ってるのに、なぜジャニーズを擁護していると非難されてるの？
山下達郎氏が尊敬してるのは、あくまでも裏方やプロデューサーとしての人間であって、彼の性加害者の面は許してないんじゃないの？
例えば私の友達でも好きな所と嫌いな所あるけど、そういう単純な話ではないの？
「嫌なら聞くな」とは一言も言ってないよね？
忖度と感じる人には、私の音楽は不要でしょう
と言っただけなのに、なぜそれが嫌なら聞くなになるの？
あと、性加害を容認しているわけではないとも言ってるのに、なぜジャニーズを擁護していると非難されてるの？
山下達郎氏が尊敬してるのは、あくまでも裏方やプロデューサーとしての人間であって、彼の性加害者の面は許してないんじゃないの？
例えば私の友達でも好きな所と嫌いな所あるけど、そういう単純な話ではないの？
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