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200名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OOH9+30Y02023/07/01(土) 00:56:40.91
国民が騒いだ方がいいよね。警察も世論は気にするからな。人を轢き殺した飯塚も
大騒動にならなければ刑務所はなかったはず
201名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cb1wkLQs02023/07/01(土) 00:56:53.09
これ普通に殺人でしょ
203名無しさん@恐縮ですID:O+p+6CX102023/07/01(土) 00:58:11.80
殺人で逮捕しなかったのは歌舞伎への配慮?
205名無しさん@恐縮ですID:q67l8B9V02023/07/01(土) 00:59:37.38
おそらく容疑が殺人に切り替わるよね
208名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ez5oBFTH02023/07/01(土) 01:01:02.88
思った以上に怖いことしてたんだな
そもそもご両親は当日まで自殺するなんて考えても無かった訳だし
自殺するように説得して薬飲ましてビニール袋被せたなら普通に殺人だと思うけどね
じゃあ俺も憎んでる人間を全く同じ方法で殺めたら自殺幇助で終わるのか?って話になる
209名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CAJKgeV702023/07/01(土) 01:01:13.95
殺人かー、きついな
210名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D1dP82J202023/07/01(土) 01:01:28.86
窒息させたのに死因が中毒死とはこれ如何に
211名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ebSKnDZb02023/07/01(土) 01:01:33.32
もう駄目だな
もったいない
あれ位の報道なら黙ってやり過ごそうと思えば出来ただろうに
212名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7SZE3Apm02023/07/01(土) 01:03:09.98
なんか思ってたより酷いな
213名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qTZiL8zJ02023/07/01(土) 01:03:14.85
睡眠薬を盛って眠ったところをコロしたのか
完全に殺人じゃん
家族会議だとかみんなでしのうとか全部デタラメだろ
228名無しさん@恐縮ですID:41Rve0Dt0
>>213
まずあの週刊誌の内容で家族会議って恥ずかしすぎるわ
自分なら部屋にこもって顔合わせずに翌朝出勤したい
215名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tb+t3Qxj02023/07/01(土) 01:04:18.70
何しても許される
そう思ってた時期がありました、、、
216名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q9J9nLQj02023/07/01(土) 01:05:02.84
両親を殺す理由って何
264名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7OwkODUZ0
>>216
タカちゃんアンタ男色なの泣
281名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VbL+IbPs0
>>264
えー、でも猿本人が「結婚しない、子供もたない」と公言してたと、
事件直後のスレで見たけどな?
さすがに両親は睡眠薬レイプ的なことは知らんかったと思うけど
217名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YF6oS1zm02023/07/01(土) 01:05:03.41
もう警察の現場担当はみんな分かってるだろ
日本の警察は無能では無い
しかしここまで不自然だと上層部、他からの
指示で真実が歪められいると疑ってる国民は多い
218名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wLroRs1202023/07/01(土) 01:05:07.85
窒息死の自白
219名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cWwYmmTc02023/07/01(土) 01:05:13.56
段十郎75?だっけ
寝たきりとか早すぎへんか
247名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xzJF4ejv0
>>219
自力で歩いて会話もできたみたいなの読んだ気もするけど
どっちなんやろね
その辺はすぐ捜査でわかるやろうけど
220名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/sWTTh/E02023/07/01(土) 01:05:28.40
正直不倫とか大麻は別に作品の封印とかせんで良いやろと思うけど
殺人の場合はきちぃよな
ソフト化まで規制しろとは思わんが
221名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Z6tOeYM102023/07/01(土) 01:05:29.43
カツオ「父さん、僕中島にホモセクハラしていたことが学校でバレちゃったんだよー」
波平「そうか、皆で次の世界に行くしかないな!」
フネ「そうですね~」
どういう家族会議だよw
222名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WcAw8Jmg02023/07/01(土) 01:05:48.49
家族会議って時点で変
223名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CgUbmRdn02023/07/01(土) 01:05:58.58
心中だという証拠は無いんだし自殺幇助で片付けるのは無理があるんじゃないか?
231名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TEPEWGeD0
>>223
被せたビニール袋か薬を飲んだコップが出てくれば物証になったかもしれんがなぁ…
224名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q9J9nLQj02023/07/01(土) 01:06:14.86
どうみても窒息死
これが自殺幇助はおかしいよ
225名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7SZE3Apm02023/07/01(土) 01:06:49.59
ほんとに家族会議とかしたのかな
もう何が何やら・・・
226名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PCHi8dYF02023/07/01(土) 01:06:51.98
ミステリ作品として考えると遺体に窒息死の痕跡を残さないトリックがこの事件のキモだよね
233名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Z6tOeYM10
277名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/YGSK9S10
>>233
うーんでも逮捕容疑が自殺幇助ってことは結局窒息死の痕跡が認められなかったってことなんだよね?
227名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cBjpXLUz02023/07/01(土) 01:07:01.75
これで殺人じゃなかったら
政治的圧力だろうな
229名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Z6tOeYM102023/07/01(土) 01:07:08.90
遺書どころか夫婦が正装してるだけでも世間は自殺だと思ったのにな
232名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7XtNqyY902023/07/01(土) 01:08:20.14
睡眠薬飲ませた後に袋被せたなら
もう無理心中じゃなくて殺人になるのか
234名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q9J9nLQj02023/07/01(土) 01:08:49.67
会議して生まれ変わる()なら寝間着で死なないと思うんだ
急ぐ必要もないから遺書や生前整理もすると思うんだ
239名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TEPEWGeD0
>>234
正装に着替えさせなかったのは遺書がない不自然さが目立たないようにかな

床に横たわる不自然さは隠せんかったが

235名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aLOaZM/G02023/07/01(土) 01:09:10.08
サツガイせよ
236名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tb+t3Qxj02023/07/01(土) 01:09:23.87
香川さんは東大卒だし遺伝的には頭いいのよね
実際商才はあったのだろうし
237名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sZzSPt8z02023/07/01(土) 01:09:51.34
全て明らかになって、しかし起訴猶予
ぐらいのことはあってもおかしくない昨今
238名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YF6oS1zm02023/07/01(土) 01:09:59.55
「両親ふたりともの頭部周辺に、かすかに『傷』が残っていたのです。猿之助さんの“ビニール袋をかぶせた”という証言が事実ならば、その際に両親が抵抗して、なんとか袋を取ろうとしたときに残された傷かもしれません。また、抵抗する両親を猿之助さんが押さえつけたときに傷がついた可能性もあります。そのあたりが今後の捜査の突破口になるかもしれない」


養生テープでガッチリ塞がれ両親が
苦しさのあまり袋を取ろうとした傷なのかと
想像したら何とも可哀想過ぎて堪らんわ
鬼畜やぞ

307名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q/X8rFFf0
>>238
>両親ふたりともの頭部周辺に、かすかに『傷』が残っていたのです。

それは泡を吹いて倒れた際にできた傷かも。
以前、近くにいた人が泡を吹いて倒れた際、おでこの上辺りに5cmほどの傷ができたのを見たことがある。
立っている状態で失神して泡を吹くと床に倒れる。
全身の筋肉が脱力して倒れるから、頭部を強く殴打するようで裂傷ができる場合がある。
人間も所詮はただの物体だから、意識を失う状態で脱力すると重い頭部を叩きつけるように倒れるよう。

個人宅の木製の床でも、失神すれば多少の裂傷はできる場合があるはず。
転倒の際にできた傷ならば、起きて立っている時に失神したことになる。

317名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YfaRm6pX0
>>307
とすると不意に倒れたと。
睡眠薬を自分で飲んでないかもね。
349名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q/X8rFFf0
>>317
口から泡を吹く状態だと人間は立っていられない。
自分が見たケースだと、泡が出るのは倒れた直後だった。
床に頭がぶつかる「ど~ん」という音がして、額にぱっくり裂傷ができてて血が見えてた。
倒れたあとは寝た状態で動かず。
240名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9BNKdg/G02023/07/01(土) 01:10:20.85
家族会議したなら家族で遺書書くよね
241名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jxHb8lha02023/07/01(土) 01:10:40.71
おいおい、これは
殺人幇助じゃないだろw
243名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q9J9nLQj02023/07/01(土) 01:11:49.65
母親が呉服関係のちゃんとした家計だから寝間着で死ぬのは有り得ないって過去スレにあったけど納得だわ
269名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MIDtViJn0
>>243
だよね

京都の友禅染の名門が実家で
ご本人も日本舞踊の坂東流の名取だよ

きちんと身なり整えられると思う

462名無しさん@恐縮ですID:14/IRAQA0
>>243
ダメだやっぱり現実と思えないしショック…
お母様が不憫過ぎる…。番頭さんや今まで
興行に携わってきた役者さん裏方のスタッフさん
全ての人たちの事を思うと…涙出てきたつらい。
244名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9V81vjzo02023/07/01(土) 01:11:52.87
よく知らんが自分の不倫発覚して何で親が死ぬ必要あるんだ?
250名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tb+t3Qxj0
>>244
何にも知らなくて草
245名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2EcJY8H602023/07/01(土) 01:12:17.14
これで殺人じゃないなら世の中から殺人罪なくなるなw
246名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7SZE3Apm02023/07/01(土) 01:12:21.13
あー遺書とかも無いのかぁ
う~ん・・・・
248名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wJJ13OS702023/07/01(土) 01:14:09.83
完全に殺人やん
これが自殺幇助になるなら、睡眠薬飲ませて殺して本人が死にたがってましたって供述すれば全部自殺幇助で通ることになる
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