350名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kky0ffBn02023/07/01(土) 01:52:33.70
養生テープはもともと家にあったのか
猿が犯行前に買ったのか
猿が犯行前に買ったのか
351名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZWCnWEpd02023/07/01(土) 01:52:41.41
さすがにこれは昔の映像差し止めでも仕方ないな
大麻とは訳が違う
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352名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Tc2azfI702023/07/01(土) 01:52:56.12
殺人ってハッキリわかんだね
356名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0gIDuJNN0
>>352
警察はもう最初からその線疑ってるだろ
擁護してる有識者が変な事言って撹乱させようとしてるだけだよw
警察はもう最初からその線疑ってるだろ
擁護してる有識者が変な事言って撹乱させようとしてるだけだよw
360名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VbL+IbPs0
>>356
自殺幇助から殺人にランクアップすることあるのかなぁ
自殺幇助から殺人にランクアップすることあるのかなぁ
母親は自殺幇助でもし確定なら、父親はどっちにすんの???とか
396名無しさん@恐縮ですID:weV5leF30
>>356
リークしてるのは取り調べしてる警察だろ
でも検察が幇助までしか許さないっていう状況なんだな
リークしてるのは取り調べしてる警察だろ
でも検察が幇助までしか許さないっていう状況なんだな
364名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ipDCVETc0
>>356
でも警察が死因は薬物中毒って言ってるんでしょ?
多量摂取とも言えないほどの、少々薬を飲みすぎた程度で死んだとしたら大問題だと思うけど、そういうことになってるよね
でも警察が死因は薬物中毒って言ってるんでしょ?
多量摂取とも言えないほどの、少々薬を飲みすぎた程度で死んだとしたら大問題だと思うけど、そういうことになってるよね
366名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lOdxydDB0
>>364
警察も一枚岩ぢゃないんだろ
警察も一枚岩ぢゃないんだろ
353名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kky0ffBn02023/07/01(土) 01:52:58.66
あテープは家にあったのか
354名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KZ+f/uk802023/07/01(土) 01:53:11.24
さすがにグレタ出てきたらウクライナの正義はないと分かるだろ
355名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uipjQ/tK02023/07/01(土) 01:55:15.62
どうやったらそんなの思いつくの
357名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wbl31puk02023/07/01(土) 01:55:33.18
親が病気で苦しんでて自殺しようとして
それまで近くでずつと見てて可哀想だしもう楽にさせてあげたかったから手助けした
これなら自殺幇助
今回の件は、両親が自殺する理由はないから
殺人だよね
それまで近くでずつと見てて可哀想だしもう楽にさせてあげたかったから手助けした
これなら自殺幇助
今回の件は、両親が自殺する理由はないから
殺人だよね
358名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q/X8rFFf02023/07/01(土) 01:57:15.83
養生テープはどういう状態なのだろう。
ビニール袋に張った分はゴミに出し、残ったテープ本体は自宅から押収されたのかな?
ビニール袋に張った分はゴミに出し、残ったテープ本体は自宅から押収されたのかな?
359名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sShyDs7B02023/07/01(土) 01:57:29.03
自分が処方されてて溜めてあった睡眠薬を二人分粉々に砕いて水に溶かして両親に飲ませる。
その上、頭からビニール袋を被せて首元を養生テープで塞いで死亡する迄待つ。
死亡を確認してから被せた袋を外して睡眠薬の残りシートと袋を家の外のゴミ捨て場に処分しに行く。
普通に殺人ですね。
その上、頭からビニール袋を被せて首元を養生テープで塞いで死亡する迄待つ。
死亡を確認してから被せた袋を外して睡眠薬の残りシートと袋を家の外のゴミ捨て場に処分しに行く。
普通に殺人ですね。
368名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q/X8rFFf0
>>359
でも、父親は死んでない。
待てば確実に死ぬのに確認してない。
でも、父親は死んでない。
待てば確実に死ぬのに確認してない。
373名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sShyDs7B0
>>368
そうだよねー
なんか不思議だよね
そうだよねー
なんか不思議だよね
389名無しさん@恐縮ですID:llzZW2nS0
>>368
父親は搬送先で死亡確認しただけであってどのタイミング死んでいたかは謎だよ
父親は搬送先で死亡確認しただけであってどのタイミング死んでいたかは謎だよ
361名無しさん@恐縮ですID:U3b6MnYe02023/07/01(土) 01:57:52.67
睡眠薬飲ませて袋被せて自殺に見せかけて殺すって裏社会の連中のやり方だぞ
警察は裏連中との関わりを洗った方がいいんじゃない
警察は裏連中との関わりを洗った方がいいんじゃない
363名無しさん@恐縮ですID:749AMJnF02023/07/01(土) 01:58:59.63
199待ったなし
365名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hA0RI0bj02023/07/01(土) 01:59:55.97
母親がランクアップすることはまずないって聞いたけどな
367名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tO7mmT1402023/07/01(土) 02:00:32.48
これはもう
369名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sShyDs7B02023/07/01(土) 02:01:10.97
母親が介護やら自分の体調やらで生きるのに疲れた。旦那を楽にしてあげて私も死にたい。
じゃー、僕が死ぬのを手伝うよ。
が自殺幇助の感覚じゃないのか?
じゃー、僕が死ぬのを手伝うよ。
が自殺幇助の感覚じゃないのか?
377名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dnBJ75+Y0
>>369
父親はともかく母親はそんな感じじゃなさそうだったけどな
父親はともかく母親はそんな感じじゃなさそうだったけどな
387名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hA0RI0bj0
>>377
長い介護から開放されたら人生を謳歌しそうなタイプに見えるよな
ステージ4のガンならその生活が目前まで迫ってただろうに
長い介護から開放されたら人生を謳歌しそうなタイプに見えるよな
ステージ4のガンならその生活が目前まで迫ってただろうに
371名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YXyvjuqe02023/07/01(土) 02:02:08.50
気に入らない奴に睡眠薬を飲ませて袋被せてテープで止めたら
殺人じゃなくて自殺幇助でいけるのか
そんな抜け道があったとは
殺人じゃなくて自殺幇助でいけるのか
そんな抜け道があったとは
372名無しさん@恐縮ですID:khNi2CQ402023/07/01(土) 02:02:18.34
生の首に留めたんかなテープを一巻き
380名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sShyDs7B0
>>372
袋の上でクルクル巻いたんじゃない?
肌にノリがついたり痕がついたりすると分かりそうだよね
袋の上でクルクル巻いたんじゃない?
肌にノリがついたり痕がついたりすると分かりそうだよね
374名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tiVUzUp902023/07/01(土) 02:03:18.59
警視庁と文科省の駆け引きもあるんだろうな
375名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AZ/fGKTv02023/07/01(土) 02:03:25.12
ホモがバレたくらいで
親のことが嫌いなわけでもなかつただろう
親のことが嫌いなわけでもなかつただろう
381名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3Z5ZpjzA02023/07/01(土) 02:05:01.23
最低でも殺人未遂なんじゃないのか、これ?
382名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mx58sUSt02023/07/01(土) 02:05:14.74
自殺としても両親に死を選ばせるなんて
父親は介護されるようになってしまったとはいえ
歌舞伎の重鎮なんでしょ
こんな亡くなりかたでなければ盛大にお見送りされた方だったろうに
父親は介護されるようになってしまったとはいえ
歌舞伎の重鎮なんでしょ
こんな亡くなりかたでなければ盛大にお見送りされた方だったろうに
386名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HfbuHX9S02023/07/01(土) 02:07:11.60
家族みんなでしんみりと一家心中の方向で合意したわけじゃなくて、猿之助の記事を見て親が屈辱のあまりもう死んでしまいたいってああだのこうだのわめきちらしてたのをうけてカッときた猿之助がガチで殺してやったとかそーゆうやつでは
390名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HfbuHX9S02023/07/01(土) 02:08:41.91
もともと向精神薬だか睡眠薬だかは母親が常用してたやつみたいだし、介護だけでも精神的にそうとうキてたのではないかと
そこに加えて
そこに加えて
393名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Gi7zgV5W0
>>390
とはいえ一緒に死にましょうとはならんな
勝手に死ぬだろ
別に赤子を残すでもなし
とはいえ一緒に死にましょうとはならんな
勝手に死ぬだろ
別に赤子を残すでもなし
397名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HfbuHX9S0
>>393
女のヒステリーはすぐ死ぬの頃すの言う話になるからな、実践するやつは稀だけど
女のヒステリーはすぐ死ぬの頃すの言う話になるからな、実践するやつは稀だけど
391名無しさん@恐縮ですID:weV5leF302023/07/01(土) 02:09:04.32
ちゃんと刑務所にいれてあげろ
392名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4+GeDS2K02023/07/01(土) 02:09:53.99
数日まで親子仲は悪くなかった見たいじゃないか
窒息のためにビニール袋被せて死なせ
苦悶の表情で死んでる両親からビニール復路取るんだぜ?
窒息のためにビニール袋被せて死なせ
苦悶の表情で死んでる両親からビニール復路取るんだぜ?
395名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HfbuHX9S02023/07/01(土) 02:12:20.83
てゆうか、検死での薬物中毒の診断は忖度によるもので、実際使用されたのは適量ぐらいの睡眠薬で、眠った顔にビニールかぶせてテープだから、窒息でなければ二酸化炭素中毒では
398名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gJny2x+a02023/07/01(土) 02:14:34.99
ダクトテープじゃなくて?
399名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sShyDs7B02023/07/01(土) 02:15:18.60
もう生い先短い両親を自分の都合のみで道連れにしようとしたのなら、一緒に死ねなかった当人の心情とはどんな物なのか想像が付かない。
この先何年も拘束されるのなら自害する
この先何年も拘束されるのなら自害する
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I urge you to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it was only disappointment along with concerns regarding scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, look for an honest platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it was only disappointment and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, look for an honest site to meet your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My personal experience with it was nothing but dismay along with suspicion of fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was nothing but disappointment and doubts about scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, find a trustworthy site for your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this site. My own encounter with it has been only frustration and doubts about deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, find a more reputable site to meet your needs.
I highly advise steer clear of this site. My own encounter with it has been nothing but dismay along with doubts about fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, find an honest site to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay along with suspicion of deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, look for an honest platform for your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this site. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay and doubts about scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, seek out a more reputable site to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this site. My personal experience with it was only dismay and suspicion of fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, seek out a trustworthy platform to fulfill your requirements.