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「タバコ休憩なんてなくしたほうがいい」 “青汁王子”の持論の共感の声「30年前から思ってた」

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1ネギうどん ★ID:ynceuBm292023/06/28(水) 13:55:56.25
「なによりタバコは臭いし体にも悪い」と三崎氏

“青汁王子”こと実業家の三崎優太氏がタバコ休憩について持論を展開。共感を呼んでいる。

たびたび議論の対象となる喫煙者によるタバコ休憩。三崎氏も「『タバコ休憩』なんてものはなくしたほうがいい」と切り出し、持論を展開した。

「吸うやつに限って吸わない人がちょっと休憩してると『サボりだ』とかいちゃもんつけるし、喫煙所で大事な話を進められると非喫煙者は置いてけぼりにされる。なによりタバコは臭いし体にも悪い。百害あって一利もないから法律で規制すれば?」と続けた。

これにフォロワーからは「一言一句、僕も同意見です!」「元喫煙者です。マジ共感」「喫煙者ですが、勤務時間は吸いませんし、家に帰ってから吸います」「30年前からずっとそう思っていました」「タバコ税無くなると皆困るよ」「非喫煙者がたまたま一休みしているからと言って、サボってるなんて言う人私の周りでは今まで生きてきて見た事ありません」などと共感の声含め、様々なコメントが寄せられている。

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514名無しさん@恐縮ですID:f1QUZIxS0
>>1
( ´ー`)y-~~おれもそう思うよ
484名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HOdwpsOP0
>>1
自分の意思で飲み会不参加しといてその後疎外感感じて文句言う奴もいるけど楽しみを共有共感できないやつに大事な話は出来ないって話
37名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oO7LrcZB0
>>1
いや、むしろ吸ってもらって構わない

非喫煙者はサボり放題だから

73名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0tKDVb8q0
>>37
口臭そう
456名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WxLZ6w2p0
>>1
こんな奴の意見が何の意味あるのよ?
522名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TiFV7f070
>>1
コイツ裏の顔がTwitterでバラされてるのに何説教こいてんの?
491名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+AJTDEWd0
>>1
22世紀には間違いなく世界的にアルコールも煙草も先進国では禁止になる
あまりにも社会全体としてのデメリットがメリットを上回るから
493ID:I3CuBRbb0
>>491
JT専売のタバコですら喫煙者がこれだけ減ってもなかなか販売中止にできないのに
無数の企業が参入して数多くの従業員が働いている酒造業を廃止にすることなんて簡単にできないよ。
246名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JsGVgR9O0
>>1
犯罪者や炎上芸人の言葉を取り上げる糞ニュースサイトのスポンサーの商品は買わない方がいい
598名無しさん@恐縮ですID:df+my5nF0
>>1
2時間以上は我慢できないなんて物は単なる嗜好品じゃなくて中毒だから治療すべき
508名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7RF5o3NE0
>>1
なにが腹立つと言っても元喫煙者がやめた途端に嫌煙厨になるのが嫌だわ w 散々撒き散らしておいて何を今更ってなるよな
318名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gxEX53iI0
>>1
年いくつ
2名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yaEqcOXr02023/06/28(水) 13:59:10.70
まあタバコ休憩しても良いよ
でも通常通り終わる仕事は定時内にやれや
3名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bUJbkY6V02023/06/28(水) 13:59:48.50
元喫煙者ですが→本当は吸いたいアピール草
4名無しさん@恐縮です2023/06/28(水) 14:00:16.28
未だにタバコ税を盾にして「いいのか?」みたいに言う喫煙者はなんなんだ
職場で禁止するだけだろ
481名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ei6hqzCN0
>>4
タバコ税もっと上げるべきやろ
日本は安すぎる
442名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nnYXPq+f0
>>4
それな タバコ税を多額納めてるから自分は高額納税者だとか言いだすからな 喫煙者なんか今や多くは低所得者でそもそも所得税をたいして納めてねえだろ、と
仮に500円のタバコを1日2箱吸ってたって税率60パー計算で1日600円の納税、年間で219000円の納税額
これで「俺は税金をたくさん納めてるんだから特別扱いしろ」だもんな 笑わせるわ
450名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ynyWD4J70
>>442
2兆円は大きいけどね
523名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0OCLeB1W0
>>4
医療費、清掃費、禁煙喫煙の分煙施設の廃止、タバコ原因での火災での損失
その他諸々の費用を考えればたばこ全面廃止すればお釣りが来るだろ
しらんけど
93名無しさん@恐縮ですID:y021aFN50
>>4
タバコ税

消費税1%ぐらいだぞ
財源問題は軽く見るな

366名無しさん@恐縮ですID:itIgP95g0
>>93
でかい
5名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d4bLWYdh02023/06/28(水) 14:00:22.51
休憩じゃないよ
一服しながら考えをまとめてんの
509名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HzSb+bjg0
>>5
なるほどね。
それは納得せざるを得ない。
347名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DJK0pjO/0
>>5
タバコがなくてもできるでしょ
367名無しさん@恐縮ですID:itIgP95g0
>>347
タバコのない休憩スペースがあったらみんなお茶持って行くかな?
501名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KAT6vl9u0
>>5
頭悪過ぎで草
6名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aEIECnC002023/06/28(水) 14:00:53.25
タバコ吸ってる人ってタバコ吸った瞬間は通常以上の能力を発揮できてんの?、タバコ吸ってないとイライラするけど吸うと落ち着くってマイナスがゼロになったのを良くなったと錯覚してるだけだよね?
438名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rBQGODAK0
>>6

> マイナスがゼロになったのを良くなったと錯覚してるだけだよね?

これを1冊かけて分かりやすく説明してるのが禁煙セラピー
「腑に落ちる」と吸いたくなくなる不思議

14名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jrpoZXPP0
>>6
酒はアッパーで煙草はダウナー
煙草を廃止すると仕事中に発狂する奴が爆増するから注意なw
360名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uzukefrx0
>>14
どう考えても逆なんだが
酒はダウナーだろ
92名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Gx5TTQma0
>>14
7名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jrpoZXPP02023/06/28(水) 14:01:59.57
仕事しながら吸えるように戻しゃいいだけだよw
8名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7dl52dp502023/06/28(水) 14:04:01.55
わざわざそんなのあるの?
じゃあタバコ吸わない人のティー休憩もあるんだよね?
9名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HfhTKZ4202023/06/28(水) 14:04:08.08
タバコ休憩の代わりにセックス休憩がほしいな
10名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RhdOahte02023/06/28(水) 14:05:45.47
ヤニカスって肌ボロボロで大体ハゲてるよな
71名無しさん@恐縮ですID:52x0PSXV0
>>10
臭くて目が黄色い、口も煙臭い
379名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KH0j7h+R0
>>71
黄疸といっしょにするな。
11名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bLOInqmx02023/06/28(水) 14:06:14.17
吸わなきゃ仕事出来ない時点で欠陥だろ
502名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IJbWSj2X0
>>11
吸わなくても出来ない輩は救いようがないね
12名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GWj90XvH02023/06/28(水) 14:06:35.79
脱税した奴が
なにを偉そうに言ってるのか
13名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ORJ+5AER02023/06/28(水) 14:07:18.09
ストレスの多い仕事にはタバコ休憩は最適だけどな
この種の休憩を無くせば煮詰まって つまらんミスを連発する

青汁も煮詰まるような高ストレスの仕事をやったことはないんだろうな

18名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RMKlEzCA0
>>13
煮詰まるならいいだろ
28名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ORJ+5AER0
>>18
コンサルみたいな返しだな
自分を優位に見せ掛けるために他人を全否定だ
296名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/3lo5C4R0
>>28
落ち着けってw
まずは煮詰まるの意味から調べよう
384名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ejN1Tnkm0
>>28
煮詰まるの誤用は理解できたかなw
386名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kvIVto410
>>384
はい、理解できました。
ありがとうございました。
183名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DndubRqZ0
>>13
と、青汁の月収程度が生涯賃金の糞奴隷www
56名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GzWU7UiJ0
>>13
それただの思い込みと言い訳だぞ
153名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2eqlathA0
>>13
マッサージ機置いてくれた方がいいわ
186名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Eazbf6Wg0
>>13
タバコで平時のパフォーマンスさげて
吸ったら並に戻ると聞いたが
139名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zicKhu2X0
>>13
煮詰まるの意味を調べようか
15名無しさん@恐縮ですID:410jUu6O02023/06/28(水) 14:08:16.05
仕事できるやつはみんな吸ってるがな
20名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0l5tuIFa0
>>15
仕事出来る人で喫煙者ってあんまりいなかったけどな
システム部門にいて子会社行くことあったけど小規模子会社程喫煙者多かったな
231名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pIlzgJhU0
>>20
そら貴方の会社がしょぼいから
238名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Saf4bDSo0
>>15
これはマジでそう
俺も吸おうかなーって思ったくらい
ロケバスの運転手やってる知り合いが言ってたけどイケメン俳優とか綺麗な女優さんはほぼ吸ってるって言ってた
16名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nsfYntyk02023/06/28(水) 14:08:39.78
30越えて王子名乗ってるのか
17名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FOERRQSu02023/06/28(水) 14:09:21.03
日本も一箱2千円にすればいいのに
底辺が吸えなくなればイメージも良くなるやろ
19名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pHURYD3s02023/06/28(水) 14:10:28.53
将来は会社でも喫煙出来なくなる予感
21名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kCwRozc+02023/06/28(水) 14:10:53.71
タバコ値上げはいいね
値上げしてもやめられないだろうし
22名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VKP90i3s02023/06/28(水) 14:11:05.80
どちらにしても生産性は低い
23名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Aurnhcle02023/06/28(水) 14:11:39.54
ヤニカス雇わなきゃいいんじゃね?
24名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PKcQfZcm02023/06/28(水) 14:12:32.03
肺がんは窒息死で死ぬ病気だし
窒息マニアの喫煙者は好きなだけ吸わせてやればいいじゃん
25名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VKjuamvs02023/06/28(水) 14:14:10.50
タバコ吸う奴とタバコ吸わない奴って確か平均年間で1週間分ぐらい多く働いてることになるんだよな

不平等だよな

31名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RGh8efvv0
>>25
タバコ吸わない手当をつけるべきだな
26名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4W+Vhr0W02023/06/28(水) 14:14:50.64
チンポ吸えよ
27名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ggYBNcca02023/06/28(水) 14:15:00.41
喫煙するしないで仕事の能力関係無いだろ
喫煙するだけ時間の無駄だったり金の無駄だったり
まぁ煙草が旨いから仕方ないんだろうが
29名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XJ99ZMK402023/06/28(水) 14:15:10.11
無くさなくていいよ
非喫煙者にジュース休憩やソシャゲ休憩を認めるようにすれば
30名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tujFrZJb02023/06/28(水) 14:15:15.54
タバコを吸わずに黙々と仕事をしているのに喫煙者と同じ程度の仕事しか出来ないなら文句を言う資格は無いし、喫煙が原因で明らかに仕事の質や量が劣る奴は処分されても仕方が無い。
243名無しさん@恐縮ですID:is8b2L280
>>30
同程度なら非喫煙者の方が上だよね

喫煙所の設置費用
清掃費用
その他の喫煙所維持管理等費用

余計な金がかかってる

265名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tujFrZJb0
>>243
今ある喫煙所なんてとうの昔に減価償却が終わっているし、掃除は利用している社員が業務時間外にやるのが普通。
新たに喫煙所を設置して掃除を外部に委託するような馬鹿な会社は今時無いよwww
267名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lMFBOPcA0
>>265
普通はビルの管理会社が清掃だろ。何で自分で掃除すんだよw
269名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tujFrZJb0
>>267
なら管理費に含まれているのだから喫煙所に対して会社としての個別の費用負担は発生していないだろ・・・。
32名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jr2/Fbig02023/06/28(水) 14:17:37.63
分かってないなこいつは
タバコと酒は労働者のガス抜きアイテムだぞ
それらをやめたら考え出して
労働者から抜け出すだろ
33名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UmxCouWx02023/06/28(水) 14:18:22.86
あれは私のベンツですけど
あれがもう一台買えたんです
34名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lq7W0gHT02023/06/28(水) 14:19:44.31
でも、仕事できるかどうかの方が重要だからなぁ~
仕事できるなら煙草休憩くらいどうでもいい。
仕事できないならトイレ休憩でもムカつく!ってなるでしょ。
35名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nsfYntyk02023/06/28(水) 14:21:11.80
吸う奴は昼休み10分にすればいいのでは
つか若いの吸わないからで大分減ったと思うんだが
36名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dXbuAr7Z02023/06/28(水) 14:23:07.92
自分は首都圏で職業柄日々いろんな企業、オフィスを外回りして訪問してるが
男女含め社員の8割~ほぼ全員が喫煙者、という今この御時世に珍しい会社も必ず見かけるんだよな
昭和なら何も珍しくない普通の光景だったが、全員20~30代の若い会社で今存在するのが新鮮
電子タバコも多いが
38名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6EPywz0n02023/06/28(水) 14:23:30.38
昔は吸わないのに休憩してるとサボってると言われるから
サボる為にワザワザ煙草吸い始める奴もいたくらいだったな
愚かな時代だった
39名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YnBFstkV02023/06/28(水) 14:23:34.69
メーカーだが周りにタバコ吸うやつなんてもういないな

取引先の中小はタバコ吸うやつだらけ

40名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WU4e0lrs02023/06/28(水) 14:26:47.75
昼休憩のときなら好きにすればいいのでは?
ただ勤務中に10分近く離席するのはどうかと思う
41名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ScX6lVA002023/06/28(水) 14:26:53.32
サボるとかタバコとかじゃなくて
9時から12時まで
13時から定時まで 休憩がないことの方が問題
43名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EEYbyQ+r0
>>41
普通は適当に休憩しながら仕事するもんじゃないのか?
42名無しさん@恐縮ですID:N1RtzWxd02023/06/28(水) 14:28:11.82
俺は吸わないが別にどうでもいい
結果的に吸ったとして吸うのを我慢しながら仕事するより遥かに高いパフォーマンスを出してくれるのならどうぞ

こんな三流タレントモドキのチンカス王子の言うことなど聞く気にもならない

44名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WU4e0lrs02023/06/28(水) 14:29:48.34
IT系から農業やバキュームカーなどさまざまな業種を体験したけど
いわゆる底辺職になればなるほどタバコ率が上がる不思議
94名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2UFnwgbC0
>>44
あれなんでなんだろ
どんな仕事もストレス溜まるはずなのに
最近の病院は敷地内禁煙になって看護師は全員タバコ辞めたけどタバコ吸えてた時代とストレス度を比較してほしい
104名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fy78/azX0
>>94
自制出来る奴は底辺にならないからだよ
タバコひとつ我慢出来ないようなクズだから底辺から脱出出来ないの
108名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rH9zGo4X0
>>104
あんたも5ちゃんの書き込み我慢できないだろ?w
45名無しさん@恐縮ですID:taAatqMv02023/06/28(水) 14:29:52.41
タバコ休憩中サボればいいじゃん
別に文句言ってこないだろ喫煙者も
46名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XwAKJvuD02023/06/28(水) 14:30:59.68
タバコ吸ってるやつは根本的にマナーがなってないからな。
道路みてみろよ。吸い殻だらけだろ。
47名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zP5o5Z7w02023/06/28(水) 14:32:49.52
道路の吸い殻なんて最近見ねーけどどこの世界の話だ?
52名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6sjIOWUN0
>>47
まー確かに見ないな
民度の低い地域にでも住んでるんだろうな
48名無しさん@恐縮ですID:058qr7kL02023/06/28(水) 14:32:59.89
工場でアルバイトしてたとき15分のタバコ休憩が1日2回あったな
休めるのはいいけど吸う人のが多かったから仲良くなれなかったなぁ
49名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hgx6Q1du02023/06/28(水) 14:34:53.29
たばこを吸い殻を落ちているのを拾うのは
掃除人の業務のひとつです。
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