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50名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BepM7QIh02023/06/28(水) 14:35:50.47
ふむ、ならばオフィス内で吸うようにすればどうだろう?
51名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8eRXsJ6402023/06/28(水) 14:36:04.07
正直こういうのは業種や職種毎の慣習によるからなんとも言えん
53名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mWllZaB702023/06/28(水) 14:37:30.37
仕事辞めてタバコも吸わなくなったな
喫煙所が打ち合わせや人間関係作るのに貴重な空間だったのは確か
54名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DvHzPWAm02023/06/28(水) 14:37:53.56
ベタな提言すな
55名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8R7hJXUv02023/06/28(水) 14:38:06.97
タバコ吸ってきただけで衣服からの臭いで迷惑かかるよな
タバコは昼休みだけでいいよ
57名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NzjSY4Qx02023/06/28(水) 14:45:44.72
言うて2時間につき5分くらい許してーな
58名無しさん@恐縮ですID:h6YxMRr702023/06/28(水) 14:47:12.13
300円の頃まで喫煙者がそこら中にいて喫煙所で仲良くスパスパしてたのが今や毒ガス扱いに
110円の値上げは強烈だったぜよ
59名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xKrdG79k02023/06/28(水) 14:48:33.51
いや休憩時間はいるだろ
全体の休憩時間を用意して、タバコ吸いたいならその時に吸えよってやればいいだけ
60名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SIc2JCxk02023/06/28(水) 14:48:33.97
連れタバコで後輩誘うのはやめて欲しいわ
61名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DAVPg73D02023/06/28(水) 14:49:00.70
その代わり食欲が増して糖尿病になるリスクがあるけどな。代替えになるものがあればいいけど。
62名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rJH+hw9/02023/06/28(水) 14:49:27.66
俺おなかゆるいキャラ設定でいつもサボってる
63名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2pQf7aby02023/06/28(水) 14:49:31.72
よくわからんのだが、通常の休憩の他にタバコ休憩なんてあるの?
タバコ吸いたければ通常の休憩時に吸えばいいじゃん
67名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cOKzE4SB0
>>63
トイレとかと一緒で我慢できないんだって
82名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2pQf7aby0
>>67
おー、それはなかなかウザいな
64名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ETi8UEeh02023/06/28(水) 14:50:53.45
そもそもヤニカスを面接で採用するな。
65名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SjMzHgPz02023/06/28(水) 14:51:17.13
冬でも2時間で汗びしょびしょになるから一服休憩回さなかったら干からびるわw
66名無しさん@恐縮ですID:t0qmZKa/02023/06/28(水) 14:51:39.06
個体差がでかいから何とも言えん

タバコ休憩多いが使える社員
喫煙しないがトロい社員

仕事テキパキこなしてたら
文句は言えない
喫煙、非喫煙よか仕事ができるか
できないかで噂されるw

喫煙者自体かなり減ってるけどw

68名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G0UA22qV02023/06/28(水) 14:52:46.31
喫煙所をガラス張りで一人しか入れないようにしておけば、
長時間居座れないから、休憩時間も減るんじゃねえの。
69名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oO7LrcZB02023/06/28(水) 14:53:49.60
非喫煙者で喫煙者の休憩を攻撃する奴はバカ

自分たちも散歩行くなり休憩すればいいだけ

70名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1xncbjDT02023/06/28(水) 14:55:58.50
昔タバコ吸ってたけど、ちゃんと始業前・お昼ご飯休憩・10分休憩・就業・の4回でしか吸わなかったな
そのかわり吸い溜めで3本くらい一気に吸ってたけど、業務中に吸う事などなかった
もう禁煙して10年経つけど
72名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hHJpsqeH02023/06/28(水) 14:56:29.49
他人の休憩は許せない卑屈なやつばっかりw
74名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fs3gE6Ra02023/06/28(水) 14:56:48.44
仕事中に酒飲んで休憩するやついないしな
75名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3FMHm5AK02023/06/28(水) 14:57:53.62
30年前ってまだバリバリの大喫煙時代やろ
76名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iUeEfpoz02023/06/28(水) 15:00:20.28
煙草吸うのってバカか年寄りだろ
77名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hHJpsqeH02023/06/28(水) 15:01:33.35
詐欺師の意見には同調できないっすね
78名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T5D6d98v02023/06/28(水) 15:03:19.73
こんな強力なヤニカスを生み出す物を垂れ流しにした国を訴えよう
79名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OUIUsJnf02023/06/28(水) 15:03:42.56
いちゃもんつけられるくらいサボってだんだろうな
その場で吸えりゃ効率いいだけフロア分けろ
80名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0ry4ScBl02023/06/28(水) 15:04:00.23
これこそ席に座っている時間に価値を見出す典型例だと思うんだけどな
81名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QWsS4nti02023/06/28(水) 15:05:25.94
まずタバコを違法にしろって話
97名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>81
いいや、規制を強めて需要を減らせって話
合法で売ってるものをいきなり禁止になどできないから。
買う側の需要を減らせば、販売側を潰せる
148名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VbC0zTwH0
>>81
税金払ってくれてるからいいじゃん
タバコ吸うやつがいなくなったらツケがまわってくる
83名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IimJjw5c02023/06/28(水) 15:06:57.94
ところがタバコはコロナ感染を防ぎやすい事が研究でわかってきた
84名無しさん@恐縮ですID:04UG2XE/02023/06/28(水) 15:09:09.26
なんか最近ガッカリしっぱなしだわ
全てが薄っぺらい
85名無しさん@恐縮ですID:icCUZc+b02023/06/28(水) 15:09:11.04
タバコ休憩がダメになったら今度はトイレ休憩までメスが入るぞ。
あいつトイレの回数が俺より多い!フェアじゃない!って世界になるわ
105名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+5xiqyHZ0
>>85
タバコとトイレは似たようなもんなんだな
人目に付かない所でやって欲しいわ
114名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>85
頻尿も治療した方がいいけど、生理現象だから。

ニコチン依存症は『薬物依存症』だから優先して要治療
問題レベルが段違いw

86名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xZ3Jv0ZK02023/06/28(水) 15:09:27.53
>吸うやつに限って吸わない人がちょっと休憩してると『サボりだ』とかいちゃもんつけるし
こんなやつおらんやろ。嫌煙は適当ないちゃもんつけすぎ
87名無しさん@恐縮ですID:078Fl+8702023/06/28(水) 15:10:54.89
マジで喫煙時間も全部残業につけるからなニコチンカスども
88名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IygzS2xm02023/06/28(水) 15:11:20.15
タバコ休憩あってもいいだろ
わざわざ締め付けるようなことしても意味ない

ただ、タバコ吸わないやつが、コーヒー休憩、ソシャゲスタミナ消化休憩、LINEチェック休憩、お菓子休憩をすればいいだけ

自分でそれを判断できないコミュ障が、みんなまとめて禁止にしてくれって言うてるだけで、そんなバカは無視しとけばいい

96名無しさん@恐縮ですID:K3NIaAP50
>>88
ソレ決めるの喫煙者じゃ無くて経営者でしょ
喫煙者も経営者から許可おりてるなら堂々してりゃいい
そうで無くてコソコソしてるなら、文句言われても仕方がない

お前も休憩取れって言うのは話が違うよ

111名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EnfrqWFh0
>>96
文句言ってるのは第三者たる、非喫煙の労働者じゃん
そもそもがそういう話
お前の言ってる事の方がズレてるよ
119名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>88
いや、治療すべき薬物依存症を同じレベルで語るなw
103名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RbgwW1nW0
>>88
一つだけを許す意味分からないんだよな
全部許してしまえばみんな幸せだわ
106名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PDwL0kFl0
>>88
休憩は休憩時間にしろアホ
123名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GIriNaUY0
>>106
息継ぎみたいなものだから仕方ないよ
別にタバコ吸うてなくても、作業の合間に一息つくことはあるだろうに
118名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Dm6k8XTA0
>>106
タバコは休憩じゃ無いよ
息抜き
107名無しさん@恐縮ですID:icCUZc+b0
>>88
つうかそもそも休憩なんて必要か?
8時間程度連続で働いても問題ないと思うんだよ。
休憩無しで働いて1時間早く帰れたほうがいいと思うわ
116名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eqBDiAvQ0
>>107
じゃあお前はそう働いたら?
実働時間で帰れるようにフレックスタイムとして交渉しろよ
労働法で何時間ごとに何分の休憩とか決まってるからなかなか難航するだろうけども
89名無しさん@恐縮ですID:W4eA8W9802023/06/28(水) 15:11:51.53
戸塚駅東口の喫煙所、臭くて改札まで行くのが苦痛
いつまで喫煙者を甘やかして迷惑垂れ流してんだよ
90名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU02023/06/28(水) 15:12:01.39
「タバコ税無くなると皆困るよ」
まだこんなことを言うような情弱ヤニカスが居るんだなw

全然、困らんよ。

91名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qWVq1fRW0
>>90
お前のそのスマホはタバコ税で立ったアンテナで繋がってるんだぞ
101名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>91
何訳のわからんことを。電波ゆんゆんか?w

タバコ吸う前に脳みそどうにかしろw
薬物依存症がw

95名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XyzY1s/n02023/06/28(水) 15:13:57.44
タバコ休憩なんてあるの?
仕事中に勝手に休んでるだけだろ
98名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YyYqnwMR02023/06/28(水) 15:14:17.93
モクモクの喫煙所でレッドブルキメるんだわ^_^
99名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rH9zGo4X02023/06/28(水) 15:14:37.05
自分が吸わないから無くしても構わない
独裁者の考えだな
堀江とか青汁とかこの界隈そんなやつばっか
110名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>99
何言ってんのw
国民の健康の為にタバコを禁止したナチスの政策こそが基本的に正しく

イタリア、日本は
タバコをファシズムコントロールに使ってたのにw

なんで歴史を知らんのよw

115名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rH9zGo4X0
>>110
そんな歴史的事実は無いからw
頭でっかちな聞きかじり知識振り回されても
122名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>115
無知だなぁ。。。。やっぱヤニカスは学がないよね
125名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rH9zGo4X0
>>122
そんな憎まれ口しか返せないのね
ちなみにオレはタバコ吸わないからw
その妙な極め付けがあんたらしいんだわ
132名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>125
ムッソリーニのタバコ専売
恩賜のタバコ
軍歌の歌詞見てもわからんバカは独学せえや
135名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rH9zGo4X0
>>132
だからそれ全部あんたの聞きかじりじゃんていってんのw
後俺がいってんの後半の部分な
137名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>135
無無学のバカの自意識に興味なし!w

日清戦争での借金を国民に負担させるべく、ニコチンの依存性が利用された。
葉煙草専売法の制定。日本は軍国主義、ファシズムコントロールにタバコを利用した。
高級嗜好品、兵士の褒美として与え、軍歌にも多く登場する。

143名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rH9zGo4X0
>>137
それあんたが見てきたの?得意げにw
それをいってんのに解らない人だなw
150名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mq5lb9KU0
>>143
お前、本当にどうでもいいw
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