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451名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ggKf2Wgx02023/06/29(木) 08:33:24.52
喫煙率低くなったから今吸ってる人らは肩身狭いだろうな
昔は半分以上吸ってたイメージ
452名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vc7XMVcy02023/06/29(木) 08:46:00.87
んなもん昔はタバコ吸いながら仕事してたんだぞ、知らんやろ
466名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LkYw/1IL0
>>452
40年前の話を今されてもな…
487ID:NPdF4+Hk0
>>452
タバコ休憩取っている連中にしてみたら
「自分のデスクで吸わせてくれたらいちいち喫煙室に行かないよ。分煙させている国や会社が悪い」くらいにしか思ってないんだろう
453名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZIRKp2Ca02023/06/29(木) 08:48:46.98
以前へずまも似たようなこと言ってたよな
なんでお前らだけタバコで何度も休憩してるんだみたいな
454名無しさん@恐縮ですID:h7E+8Sv802023/06/29(木) 08:50:49.90
俺の職場なんかいつでも好きな時にタバコ吸いながら出来るけど
455名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wS8djPBR02023/06/29(木) 08:51:02.82
タバコ吸う人間はほぼ例外なくクズだからね
タバコ吸うからクズになるのかクズだからタバコ吸うのか分からないけど
548名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ga5N4btd0
>>455
喫煙率8割世代に謝っとけ
457名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JXy5Tg1o02023/06/29(木) 08:53:24.34
前にいた上司もドヤ顔で「タバコは好きで吸いに言ってるんじゃなくて、コミニュケーションの為にいってるんだよ」とか言ってたな
なんじゃそりゃと
459名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C9taEsRs0
>>457
今は吸ってるやつも少ないから会社の喫煙所で一人なんてよくある
誰とコミュニケーション取ってるんだと
465名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LkYw/1IL0
>>459
確かにな
うちの部署も吸うのはバブル世代のオッサン1人だわ
他はタバコやめたり元から吸わない人しかいない
467名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4184oV6D
>>457
飲みに行く、ゴルフに行くのと同類よ

例えばクライアントを混じえた会議が午前中あったとする
途中休憩で先程まで会議にいた初対面の相手と仲良くなったりするからな
それがターニングポイントになって流れがスムーズになったりすることもある

468名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LkYw/1IL0
>>467
お前の現役の時の話を今の世代に押し付けるなよ
何十年前の話だよ
460名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Oii4vV1S02023/06/29(木) 09:18:13.72
警察に逮捕され始めてるYoutubeも無くしたほうが良いね
461名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nLdNYLYb02023/06/29(木) 09:23:25.33
元喫煙者だから誰を咎めようとも思わないけど
やめてからの体調でタバコのデバフぶりがよくわかった
462名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Y4G/cKwR02023/06/29(木) 09:43:32.51
タバコ一本吸いに行くのに会社に500円とか払うようにしたらみんな納得するんじゃね
463名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tqh70Ei50
>>462
するかボケ
464名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kc2nZ0yG02023/06/29(木) 09:47:40.09
タバコ休憩なんかある会社を聞いたことがない
469名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+hv4Zr/e02023/06/29(木) 10:03:21.11
タバコ休憩は許されるのに
疲れたから ほけ~ っとしてたらサボってるって言われる謎
470名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Oii4vV1S02023/06/29(木) 10:07:56.17
タバコとか関係ないんじゃないの
仕事できるヤツできないヤツの差だろ
473名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HGH0TPX/0
>>470
その場にいる事が仕事の人もいるだろ
店員がタバコ休憩で席外したら別の奴が無給で代わりに働くのか?
475名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Oii4vV1S0
>>473
なんで無給になるやつがそこにいるんだ?
476名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HGH0TPX/0
>>475
いないから休憩以外の時間はタバコ休憩を禁止にしてんだよ!
馬鹿かよ
478名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Oii4vV1S0
>>476
池沼はレスすんなよ意味不明すぎだろw
479名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HGH0TPX/0
>>478
団塊世代とは時代が違うんだよ
471名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hPdhI09Y02023/06/29(木) 10:23:17.36
昔はタバコ休憩じゃなくて
タバコ吸いながら仕事してなかったっけ
472名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZukEbFNW02023/06/29(木) 10:28:48.73
別にタバコ関係なく休憩とる余裕くらいあって良いだろ
むしろもっといろんな休憩を取るべきだ
474名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VQiDHQ3H02023/06/29(木) 10:29:58.06
でもタバコ吸う奴みんな仕事できるんだよなぁ
535名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wIVwHZ4G0
>>474
西成の道端に沢山座ってるぞタバコ吸ってるやつ
477名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HGH0TPX/02023/06/29(木) 10:35:07.47
勝手に休憩とって、何が「仕事出来ます」だよ
仕事出来てねーじゃん
482名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R1r2ux3f02023/06/29(木) 10:39:57.78
喫煙者って100%例外なくクズだからな。
485名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dD74MFbY0
>>482
正確には「喫煙者がすべてクズなわけではないがクズは100%喫煙者」だな 実際問題少年院含めた受刑者の喫煙率って異常に高いし、喫煙率の学歴間格差は研究報告書まで出てるし
483名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wdypxiPW02023/06/29(木) 10:40:08.14
電車の運転手がタバコ休憩で途中下車したら、運転がいくら上手くても仕事が出来るとは言えないな
休憩時間は守ろう
486名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UdXsNzID02023/06/29(木) 10:48:05.74
別に吸いたければ吸えばいい
ただ10分も15分も行く必要はないなw
元喫煙者の俺に言わせてもらえば
488名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yQnDgK+w02023/06/29(木) 10:51:09.70
俺みたいな底辺の土木仕事してる奴らにはタバコ休憩は必要だよ
体力的にキツいから少しでも長く休んでたい
489名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+hv4Zr/e02023/06/29(木) 10:52:01.74
みんなで休めば良いだろ
なんで一人で休んでんだよ
490名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8qo8nw3O02023/06/29(木) 10:52:50.69
他人が何してようが勝手だろ、そんなのを気にしてる馬鹿は仕事の出来ない無能だろ
492名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hC2K3FsE02023/06/29(木) 11:01:26.88
逆やな
頭使う仕事ならむしろもっと息抜きさせて良い
集中力なんて長く続かないんだから何時間も椅子に縛り付けて仕事させる方が効率悪い
494名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iBPUC6gQ02023/06/29(木) 11:12:40.07
なくすというか制度としてあるのがおかしい
495名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4we6SatG02023/06/29(木) 11:13:53.37
タバコ吸わなきゃドリンク休憩なりリフレッシュするために適宜休憩とりゃいいのに
アイツらだけズルいって足を引っ張る行為こそ生産性が悪いよ
510名無しさん@恐縮ですID:P9G++dwI0
>>495
喫煙者はコーヒー休憩すると
「サボってる」と怒り出すんだよ
少なくとも自分の部署はそう
515名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hC2K3FsE0
>>510
少なくとも俺の周りには一人も居ないな
君の職場って単に足引っ張るのが大好きなクズ連中の集まりなのでは?
496名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ugVQRT8Y02023/06/29(木) 11:14:34.78
喫煙者はキチガイ
497名無しさん@恐縮ですID:s+V69DlB02023/06/29(木) 11:17:42.63
吸わずに休憩もせずに働いてる人の
生産性が高くないので黙認されてる
集中力なんて長く続かないし適度に休憩
した方が生産性は上がるだろ
一時間ごとに小休止すべき
498名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Wa1TMNLR02023/06/29(木) 11:23:10.95
いい歳しておしゃぶりを離せない連中が何か言ってやんの
くそダセー
499ID:vO2zxs9K02023/06/29(木) 11:23:13.82
喫煙者にしてみたら「こちとら面倒くさいのにわさわさわ禁煙所まで足を運ばされているんだぞ。タバコ休憩を取られるのが嫌ならデスクで吸わせろや」てな感じじゃないの?
500名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WiSQxAXs0
>>499
今どきデスクワーク者で喫煙者なんてほとんどいないぞ
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