301名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/Lm6uhIq02023/06/28(水) 18:14:12.21
今の時代はノミニケーションを否定し煙草休憩も否定やってられんな
バブルの頃は酒も煙草もガンガンやって徹夜麻雀して女遊びもして頭の痛み耐えながら会社行ってみんな活力あったけどな
バブルの頃は酒も煙草もガンガンやって徹夜麻雀して女遊びもして頭の痛み耐えながら会社行ってみんな活力あったけどな
304名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/3lo5C4R0
>>301
バブル語ってる時点で老害w
バブル語ってる時点で老害w
305名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fAJ0nMaz02023/06/28(水) 18:15:19.90
喫煙室で情報交換するのは当たり前だろうよ
喫煙所の無い会社は大した会社じゃない
喫煙所の無い会社は大した会社じゃない
308名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:18aOK5ET02023/06/28(水) 18:17:24.75
建築相手の運送で吸いホーダイだから想像つかんのだが、皆と同じ休憩時間にタバコじゃなくてそれとは別に一服があるって事だろ
なんでそんなの通用してんだ？
なんでそんなの通用してんだ？
311名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:O0gHFdNm0
>>308
みんな大人だから
仕事中の自己管理・自己責任の範疇で許されてるんだよ
みんな大人だから
仕事中の自己管理・自己責任の範疇で許されてるんだよ
310名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X/JF63yG02023/06/28(水) 18:22:59.93
非喫煙者だけどたかが10分くらい抜けたくらいでガタガタ言わねぇよ
目の前で吸われるのは嫌だけど余所で吸うならタバコ休憩くらい構わん、仕事できない奴ほど細かい事気にして仕事ができない(笑)
312名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MOWuWOy702023/06/28(水) 18:26:25.91
いまどきタバコ休憩なんてしてる奴いるの？
まともな奴はとっくに禁煙してるだろ
まともな奴はとっくに禁煙してるだろ
314名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:T30G1it/0
>>312
まともなやつははじめから吸ってないよ
まともなやつははじめから吸ってないよ
わざわざ禁煙なんかしなけりゃならない時点で時分が底辺だと自覚しな
316名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MOWuWOy70
>>314
俺は一度も吸ったことないよｗ
元々吸ってた奴の場合の話
俺は一度も吸ったことないよｗ
元々吸ってた奴の場合の話
313名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rj4JoDCA02023/06/28(水) 18:29:58.24
社外的にも社内的にも営業活動の一種でもある
最近は自分が気に入らない＝なくせってアホが多すぎて嫌になる
最近は自分が気に入らない＝なくせってアホが多すぎて嫌になる
315名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A4sl9YoU02023/06/28(水) 18:30:37.21
タバコ休憩勝手に作った奴がタバコ吸わない奴にも
小休憩を強要してくる
イニシアチブとること自体許しちゃいけないと思う
喫煙者は自分達が少数派だという意識が低い
傲慢野郎が多い
小休憩を強要してくる
イニシアチブとること自体許しちゃいけないと思う
喫煙者は自分達が少数派だという意識が低い
傲慢野郎が多い
317名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:k2/L0PcA02023/06/28(水) 18:32:36.53
工場勤務だが、喫煙者は10分休憩でさえダッシュして外の喫煙所に向かうね
ただでさえクソ暑い中労働するのに、休憩でさらに暑い場所にいく
病的に見えるわ
ただでさえクソ暑い中労働するのに、休憩でさらに暑い場所にいく
病的に見えるわ
319名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:efF8e/vk02023/06/28(水) 18:33:45.53
元々吸ってない立場から言わせてもらうと、タバコが好きで吸い続けてるやつはまともというかひとつの立場としてずっと認めてる
何となく流れで吸いはじめて、辞めるにも辞められず禁煙頑張ってもう何年も吸ってないとか偉そうに言うてる奴の方が人として弱いし信用出来ないよ
320名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:h823IIAQ02023/06/28(水) 18:35:48.85
タバコ休憩はまあ千歩譲っても、共同で使う会社の車でタバコ吸われると吸わない自分からしたら腹立つわあ
322名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xjSDay9X0
>>320
いちいち腹立てんなや神経質過ぎるやつだな
タバコでも吸って落ち着け
いちいち腹立てんなや神経質過ぎるやつだな
タバコでも吸って落ち着け
321名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:y8pq0XU302023/06/28(水) 18:38:09.67
酒と煙草とギャンブル廃止にすれば健全にはなる
だが、税収問題が有るから無くせないw
324名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pD2eJ0Ff0
>>321
嗜好品は息抜きガス抜きだよ
穴を防ぐと圧が高まって爆発する
おわかりか？
嗜好品は息抜きガス抜きだよ
穴を防ぐと圧が高まって爆発する
おわかりか？
325名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/3lo5C4R0
>>321
それぞれの業界があるから廃止は無理よなー
タバコは煙&臭いを全て体内に取り込んで一切外に出さなければいいんだけどな
それぞれの業界があるから廃止は無理よなー
タバコは煙&臭いを全て体内に取り込んで一切外に出さなければいいんだけどな
327名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DAVPg73D0
>>321 薬物が蔓延するだけだよ。禁止するならその替わりが必要
323名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fvjB7Mnq02023/06/28(水) 18:38:29.33
頭悪い
煙草吸わんヤツも好きに休憩しろよ
結局はどれだけの仕事ができるかだろ
煙草吸わんヤツも好きに休憩しろよ
結局はどれだけの仕事ができるかだろ
326名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LXgS3RIA02023/06/28(水) 18:42:41.95
喫煙者にそんなこと言っても無駄
328名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/3lo5C4R02023/06/28(水) 18:43:54.27
休むのは勝手にしてくれていいから臭えのだけどうにかしろ
331名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HkXqB1N/0
>>328
お前は勘違いしている
臭いおっさんがタバコ辞めたら、本格的に臭くなるだけだぞ
まだ「ヤニ臭い」ほうがマシ
お前は勘違いしている
臭いおっさんがタバコ辞めたら、本格的に臭くなるだけだぞ
まだ「ヤニ臭い」ほうがマシ
330名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/3lo5C4R02023/06/28(水) 18:45:20.11
この話題で臭いのこと言ったら喫煙者誰も反論できなくなるんだよなw
332名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EFeuuE1/02023/06/28(水) 18:45:46.80
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334名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bo/jh/ud0
>>332
ヤニカスはウンコ出ないんだなw
ヤニカスはウンコ出ないんだなw
333名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aBFV4epJ02023/06/28(水) 18:48:27.57
脱税はやめた方がいい
昔から思ってた
昔から思ってた
335名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PzNfN52q02023/06/28(水) 18:51:35.17
サビ残無くす方が先だろ
336名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RRPlS61a02023/06/28(水) 18:54:46.18
仕事できない奴に限って「作業時間」に拘るよな
大切なのは「成果」でしょ？
大切なのは「成果」でしょ？
成果が同じであればタバコ休憩ばかりして作業時間の少ない喫煙者の方が優秀ということだしね
337名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:y8pq0XU30
>>336
日本は依然として、長く働いたら偉いだからな（笑）
成果主義導入しても、査定する管理職が査定できない現実
日本は依然として、長く働いたら偉いだからな（笑）
成果主義導入しても、査定する管理職が査定できない現実
338名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:roanZHZ202023/06/28(水) 19:09:18.79
喫煙室に行くなんて私用外出と同じじゃん
ちゃんと私用外出届書いて上司の許可貰えよ
ちゃんと私用外出届書いて上司の許可貰えよ
339名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hiHWCdBU02023/06/28(水) 19:09:43.91
タバコミュニケーション
340名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hT30TAcr02023/06/28(水) 19:14:03.88
>吸うやつに限って
こういう決めつけはどうかな
臭いし体に悪いから無くせは同意
こういう決めつけはどうかな
臭いし体に悪いから無くせは同意
341名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0OeFZIKA02023/06/28(水) 19:22:11.18
つーかなんで民間に口出してんの
この世を支配したいのかい
この世を支配したいのかい
342名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qgIflx4e02023/06/28(水) 19:22:32.74
百害あって一利なしとか言って、休憩できるし、結構重要な話聞けるから利益もあるんやぞ。酒カスの方が規制するべきやろ
343名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/sJPF4cf02023/06/28(水) 19:29:16.19
今はタバコ部屋なんてコミュニケーションしてたら燻されるくらい狭くなってるだろ
344名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bSjyUeke02023/06/28(水) 19:30:31.81
感覚で何十年も前からポモドーロテクニック実践してたの凄ない？
345名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n62EGgyV02023/06/28(水) 19:31:22.14
加熱式タバコのあの独特の臭いよね
346名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RYM+zTFv0
>>345
甘いドブみたい
甘いドブみたい
348名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PKLY3rze02023/06/28(水) 19:34:50.67
ここに魔法のコトバを置いてゆこう
私も1番好きな事やめるから！貴方もタバコやめて！
ではの
私も1番好きな事やめるから！貴方もタバコやめて！
ではの
349名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gxvQ7Lp602023/06/28(水) 19:35:37.87
タバコ吸わないやつも休憩すりゃいいだけじゃね？タバコ吸うやつも吸わないやつも休憩するなってブラック体質を押しつけたいんですか？
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