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【サッカー】空回りしたJFA女子サッカー振興の「両輪」…無謀なクラウドファンディング WEリーグの観客動員は低迷を続けている

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651名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KrGT1UI002023/06/27(火) 23:32:17.35
バレーや卓球は色白美人が超人バトルやるから見応えあるけど
サッカーは
652名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jKuiSimI02023/06/27(火) 23:39:11.74
このまま放送無しだとFIFAも得しないから日本側の提示額で妥協するのか
それとも見せしめ的に「日本だけ地上波放送無し」という強硬姿勢に出るのか
いやあこれは見ものだな
659名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EOEoDEQi0
>>652
見せしめで日本だけ地上波放送無しでも誰も興味ないんだから見せしめにならんだろ
そもそも放映権料が無料でも視聴率悪いだろうから旨味無い
661名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Fgeqp+0x0
>>659
ぶっちゃけ今更「無料です。放送してください」と頼まれてもどこの放送局も予定が決まってるから放送したくないだろうねw
917名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6rIhdbg60
>>661
放映権料無料に加えて埋まらないCM枠を全て買い取ります位言わんと無理だと思う
654名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dBuRryLT0
>>652
流石にもう放送予定番組が決まってるから無理でしょww
放送のない深夜の時間とかだったらともかく昼間とか夕方は爺婆や学校帰りのちびっ子が通常の番組を楽しみにしてるからね
653名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZcMK9rh302023/06/27(火) 23:40:14.38
Jリーグ観に行く奴は女子のも観に行かせろ
差別するな
655名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ABskal9802023/06/27(火) 23:51:59.93
東京オリンピックの女子サッカーってどれくらいチケット売れてたんだろうか
日本代表戦なら完売で、ちゃんと観客入れてたら結構起爆剤になっていたと思うけどな
無観客になったことで知られることのない競技になってしまった
656名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V0Fbqv5/02023/06/27(火) 23:58:18.60
フィールドの面積を3分の2ぐらいにしたら見られない事もないかも知れん。
女子のスピードとキック力では明らかに広すぎて、見せる競技として成立してない。
657名無しさん@恐縮ですID:t5zioxDh02023/06/28(水) 00:01:07.31
サッカーは色気全くねえからな

何故女子プロレスやフィギュアがレオタード着て、テニスやゴルフがスカートを履くのか考えた方がいい
ビーチバレーがビキニやめたら業界関係者しかみないだろ

660名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LDKFFVjP02023/06/28(水) 00:17:17.66
シュートもパスも遅くてトラップもポロポロとミスしまくりの女子サッカーはほんとつまらん。
ポテポテと転がるボールがゴールに入っても、サッカー特有のゴールの瞬間のカタルシスは得られないのよ。
662名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MobjHCBU02023/06/28(水) 00:19:31.66
パワーとスピードはそりゃ男に劣るのは当たり前。
だけど男みたいな足に吸い付くようなトラップがなぜ女にはできないのか?
704名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dFpVEpaa0
>>662
空間認識能力の把握が劣るからだろ
あういうのって車の車庫入れみたいなもんだし
668名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bl1c57me0
>>662
女は動体視力が男より劣るということが科学的に証明されてるからね。
トラップが下手なのはそれが原因かと。
モータースポーツのトップカテゴリーで活躍する女性ドライバーがいないのもそれ。
しかしもう数年したら野田JUJUが日本人初の女性F1ドライバーになると思うけどね。
671名無しさん@恐縮ですID:roR7gwRX0
>>668
日本人初どころか女性F1ドライバーって今まで誰かいた?
675名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pXKahxaz0
>>671
テストドライバーとかではいた気がする
テスト中にアクシデントで死にかけてその後自殺してたと思う
663名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gG4ZhhUv02023/06/28(水) 00:20:54.22
テレビメディアもガン無視なのうける
664名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uliLk6Xg02023/06/28(水) 00:25:39.68
俺はサッカー協会のサイトやYouTubeも見て色々情報収集なんかもしてるが
田嶋会長も酷いが、髙田春奈チェアも無能感半端ない
年俸3600万貰っておいてあんたらなんかやってるのかというぐらい、宮本ももっと働けもっと発信しろと思う
WEリーグの情報や宣伝が見えてこないだよ
サッカー協会では野々村テェアマンぐらいじゃないか、一生懸命さが見える幹部は、全国回って色々やってるし、ローカル局でサッカー番組やったり、答えにくい事でも回答してくれたりして有能で働き者は野々村だけだ
665名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LWQ6BBYJ02023/06/28(水) 00:26:44.82
五輪ならともかく女子スポで数字取れるのなんてフィギュアくらいだろ
この前の卓球も爆死だし大坂が全米とったのも一桁だし
666名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7LOX/EeZ02023/06/28(水) 00:32:20.85
澤みたいなカリスマ性備えた女子サッカー選手なんて二度と現れる気がしないな。
あのときは本当に面白かったんだって
667名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kctvTOA102023/06/28(水) 00:49:22.22
13人制とかにした方がスピード感が増して面白くなるのでは?
669名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OPFiM0Jc02023/06/28(水) 00:52:18.01
女子サッカーは詰まらんのレスで溢れてるけどwこのスレの根本的な問題はFIFAのぼったくりだぞ
このままだと次の男子もヤバい
672名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S+4r9FfN0
>>669
なでしこが2011年レベルの強さと人気があったら、大赤字でも放映権料払うよ
後々取り返せるから
勿論FIFAがぼったくってるのが原因だけど、今放送されても正直見る気はしない
670名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7wiXdbJ902023/06/28(水) 00:53:46.37
エ ロ 目線以外で数字は取れないよ
ツベも人気なのは学生の女子陸上ばかりだもの
そもそも女子競技は女子が観ないと無意味
673名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xuuI8c0i02023/06/28(水) 00:55:25.24
FIFAがぼったくらなくても放送する価値がないのが女子サッカーの根本問題
689名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CDsFxJY30
>>673
だからその女子サッカー以下だから
アメリカ人の1.5%(笑)しか
W豚Cを見てなかったんだな

【サッカー】<女子W杯決勝>米国内視聴者数は「FOXスポーツ」1430万人!「テレムンド」でも160万人が視聴 ロシアW杯決勝を22%上回る
s://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1562664905/

プーックスクスクス

【MLB】ワールドシリーズ全米視聴者数はワースト2位の約1180万人 同時期NFLレギュラーシーズンより少ない視聴者数
s://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1667990269/

【視聴率】WBC決勝、地上波放送なしも全米で平均497万人、大谷対トラウトは650万人が視聴 当日の地上波含む全番組中では3位に ★2
s://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1679609698/

690名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CmathndD0
>>689
結局やきうって馬鹿にされるためだけに
この世に存在しているだけなんだな
693名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nF8RNx9C0
>>689
女子サッカーってそんなに人気なんだ
選手年俸どんなもん貰ってんの?
674名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1L5J7Ock02023/06/28(水) 00:55:44.90
シンクロや新体操で男子の部もあるけど
あれと同じ
女子と同じことやられても需要ないので見向きもされない
676名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2Mp7c4BN02023/06/28(水) 01:01:42.07
羽生ファンの購買力凄まじい

983 名無し草 [sage] 2023/06/28(水) 00:03:05.14 ID:
FaOI神戸の会場に羽生着用のポロシャツ着てた人が何人もいたって
あれ13万円超するのにびっくりだよ

677名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3At/3qF802023/06/28(水) 01:02:29.12
バレーボールはゴールデンでも女子の方が数字は取れた
男子は需要なく深夜の録画放送
クオリティは圧倒的に男子のほうが高いのにであるw
682名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OPFiM0Jc0
>>677
今バレーはどっちもBSで生放送の同人気
現地は男子の方が人気まである
679名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S+4r9FfN0
>>677
今男子無茶苦茶強いのにな
30年勝ってなかったブラジルに勝つという、マイアミの奇跡に近いことをやったのに
678名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S+4r9FfN02023/06/28(水) 01:04:37.41
澤穂希は本当に凄かった
下手な男子選手より決定力があった
最近男子がやっと澤に追いついた感じ
680名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jtNkWzmC02023/06/28(水) 01:07:13.77
男子と女子は明確に階級が異なる別競技である
男子がヘビー級なら女子はフライ級
そこを視聴者は混同してしまう
681名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lF+wJRZx02023/06/28(水) 01:07:32.72
うーむ
683名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AEC0Dl6X02023/06/28(水) 01:28:05.63
いつ以来かぶりに男子バレーちらっと見たらスパイク打つと見せかけて寸前で
離れた選手にトス上げるみたいな技やってたけどなんだあれはw
あんなのブロックできないじゃんw
684名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XmYVEwYk02023/06/28(水) 01:28:44.59
なでしこは千葉の高校チームにさえ毎年ガチメンバーで勝てないからガッカリしたわ。そのレベルなんだな
685名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tMbyTRNO02023/06/28(水) 01:30:25.14
女子W杯の国内テレビ中継を目指してクラウドファンディングで資金を募る
https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1687404332/

詐欺は失敗?

687名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CDsFxJY30
>>685
大失敗して地球上から永久に壊滅した

【野球】女子プロ野球が事実上の消滅、登録選手がゼロに

950名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1az8y4Xx0
>>687
崩壊したのはバカメリカの女タマケリ
686名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bfjyAAxB02023/06/28(水) 01:47:01.09
あのツベでやってるつまらん実況どうにかならんのか?
あれじゃ無料で観れても楽しめんやろw
688名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9s6+8tFM02023/06/28(水) 01:47:38.94
なでしこはW杯優勝
五輪は銀メダル

それに比べて男子は…と言ってた奴等はどこ行ったの?ww

691名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AYHdsgPl02023/06/28(水) 01:53:52.24
ユニフォームをブルマにしたらええだけやろ
レジェンダリーフットボールを見習えよ
692名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZuQJVPQf02023/06/28(水) 01:56:58.70
女子は小学生と同じルールにしたほうが面白そう
小学生も見に来るだろ
694名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tMbyTRNO02023/06/28(水) 02:51:17.26
女子サッカーワールドカップの米国代表チームの選手が低賃金を理由に米サッカー連盟を米労働基準署(Equal Employment Opportunity Commission)に告発したことが、スポーツ専門チャンネル「ESPN W」の報道で明らかなった。

米国代表女子チームの代理人によると、昨年度の女子サッカーワールドカップ米国チームの収益高は、男子サッカーワールドカップ米国チームよりも2000万ドルも多かったのにも関わらず、女子選手の給与は、男子選手の4分の1に抑えられるなど、不当な性差別を受けたとしている。

米国代表女子チームによるとチームの給与は、年20試合に勝つことを条件に、1人あたり9万9000ドル(1110万円)が支給される条件になっていたとしている。対して、男子チームの場合、給与は最低給与として10万ドル(1120万円)が保障され、更に20試合に勝った場合には、26万3320ドル(2950万円)が歩合報酬として加算される条件になっていたとしている。

また、男子チームの場合、年間の最低試合数となる20試合を超えて試合を行った場合、1試合ごとに5000~1万6260ドルが支払われる契約となっていたのにも関わらず、女子チームの場合、20試合を超過しても超過試合手当は一切支給されない契約になってたとしている。

この男女間の給与格差のため、女子チームはサッカーワールドカップで優勝したのにも関わらず、チーム全体の給与総額は200万ドルに抑えられ、対して、男子チームの場合は、優勝には程遠かったにも関わらず、給与総額は900万ドルにも及んでいた。

695名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3KpaA94R02023/06/28(水) 03:10:32.73
W杯なんてなくたって困らない
ボッタクリするなら男子も放送しなくていいFIFA勘違いするな
696名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FXraYlZJ02023/06/28(水) 03:37:52.80
売れ始めの芸能人みたく調子こいてスポンサーや用具メーカーにアレコレ要求しだしたのも悪かったな
それが通じるほど国内で確たる足場なんて築けてもなかったのに
現になでしこブームなんて一過性のモノで終わって結果いまに至ってる
698名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T6tCFC4p02023/06/28(水) 03:55:00.82
問題は放映権料で、ウェアをもっと露出増やせとかはそっちじゃないと思う
そりゃある程度こぎれいな方が見栄えはするから
各自がそういうのは考えてほしいけど
変な値段に釣りあがるからテレビ局が買えない値段になっている
というのが本来の問題
699名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NrK8Jli+02023/06/28(水) 03:58:13.13
女子サッカーがつまらないんじゃなくて、サッカーがつまらない
レベルが高いプレーを面白いって感じるのは、いつもサッカーを見ている
一部のサッカーファンだけの感覚で、大多数の人間はそんなのわからない

面白い競技なら、レベル関係なく試合展開でワクワクできる
サッカーはそういう楽しさが無いから、レベルがどうとか
通ぶった見方をしないと楽しむことができないだけ

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