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150名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SKn0KG8P02023/06/27(火) 14:18:57.97
ビーチバレーみたいなユニフォームで試合したらええんやないかな
153名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0qj4HnCG02023/06/27(火) 14:20:43.89
こう言ったらアレだが
一時期アレだけステマしても結局不人気だったからな
誰のせいでもないだろ
競技の限界としか言いようがない
154名無しさん@恐縮ですID:c4Rbz03O02023/06/27(火) 14:21:15.27
男でさえ動員少ないのに女で入ると思ってんの?
155名無しさん@恐縮ですID:osH+Ps7w02023/06/27(火) 14:21:19.30
見に行きたい気持ちは山々だが、行くとキモオタのおっさんというレッテル貼られるんだろ
躊躇するわ
156名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SKn0KG8P02023/06/27(火) 14:21:51.83
可愛くてちちの大きい子が走ったジャンプしたりトラップするとこ見たいんだよ
171名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XZDzW92A0
>>156
今丁度バレーの世界大会やってるけど女子バレーってなんか妙にエッチでつい見ちゃうんだけど女子サッカーにはそういう感覚一切無いのよね
197名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SKn0KG8P0
>>171
ユニフォームで体のラインが見えるか見えないかも大事だしバレーは自分より大きい女性に甘えたい見たいな母性も感じられるからね
199名無しさん@恐縮ですID:piJV3JbV0
>>171
日焼けして髪もパサパサしてる女に性的興奮は得にくいだろう
せめて、陸上トラックの選手くらいまではキレイにしておいてほしい
157名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cwiX20kY02023/06/27(火) 14:22:14.99
男女平等とか言えば言うほど離れていくわな
単につまらない
そこをちゃんと認識してるのか謎
特に選手
調子乗りすぎ
158名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ut8JvOQV02023/06/27(火) 14:22:34.93
何かにつけクラファン、クラファン、
言う奴は信用しない方がいい。
159名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tF3Q/1Kj02023/06/27(火) 14:22:58.11
もうユニホーム水着にしろよ
161名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SKn0KG8P0
>>159
ぺったんこの選手はいらないです
162名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eOZMHNJR02023/06/27(火) 14:23:51.48
こういう時こそ女性がお金を出し合って同じ女性を助けるべきでしょう
フェミニストとか何やってんの
163名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0qj4HnCG02023/06/27(火) 14:24:06.97
そもそも女子スポーツに興味あるのが老人と弱者男性の一部くらいだしな
164名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KEeR2TnB02023/06/27(火) 14:24:29.99
他国を安くして日本にだけ190億要求してるんだぞ、電通のせいでさ
そりゃ無理だ
他国の意識が高くて日本が駄目みたいな記事書くなボケ
165名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SlOQvTxc02023/06/27(火) 14:25:00.58
一般人のレベルを超越したハイレベルなものを見れるってところでプロスポーツは成立してる
最強レベルでも男の一般人よりレベル下のものはエンタメとして成立してない
男向けに美人選手集めるとか、女向けに女の憧れになるような選手集めるとか
少なくとも人気定着するまでは競技以外の要素で釣らないと無理だと思う
166名無しさん@恐縮ですID:osH+Ps7w02023/06/27(火) 14:25:20.10
今は男子バレーの時代になってだわな
170名無しさん@恐縮ですID:piJV3JbV0
>>166
ハイキューのお陰だわね
女子サッカーもクラマーがヒットしてたら流れ少しは来てたのかも
173名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0qj4HnCG0
>>170
腐女子好みのイケメンが多いからで漫画のおかげではないだろう
167名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xGhneK/n02023/06/27(火) 14:25:26.39
性的な目で見ないで!
でも見に来て!
331名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FlEa5o2P0
>>167
くりぃむしちゅー上田みたいだな
168名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nKidSbWq02023/06/27(火) 14:26:07.92
クラウドファンディングしてどうすんの
今後もあらゆることをクラウドファンディングに縋りつくのか
それはプロスポーツとして成立してないことの証左に他ならないんだが
税にたかるあの国内サッカーリーグじゃないんだからさあ
169名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vKrOeJkN02023/06/27(火) 14:26:24.46
卓球もバレーもバスケもサッカーも全部可愛い子を優先してもっと露出高くしてもっと人気出るのにな
プライドが許さないんだろうけどそれで人気や金が集まるわけないよな
プレーがしょぼいんだから他のところで努力しろよ
172名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0qj4HnCG02023/06/27(火) 14:27:12.07
>>192
電通や広告代理店は子供お使い以下のアホだからな
何で広告代理店なのに相手のいい値でぼったくられているんだよっていう
仕事全然してねえじゃん的な
174名無しさん@恐縮ですID:El6h2hjp02023/06/27(火) 14:28:21.85
男子のW杯すらもめたんだから無理でしょ
日本にはもうそんな金ないんだから
178名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vKrOeJkN0
>>174
金がないっていうか視聴率が取れないから
視聴率が取れるなら金を出してる
テレビ自体がもう視聴率取れなくなってるからね
198名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4eBA8RTg0
>>178
男子W杯は南アフリカ大会の辺りからもう赤字で視聴率60%取れたとしても要らないコンテンツとまで民放からは言われてるんだぜ?
202名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vKrOeJkN0
>>198
女子の話な
女子はそこまで高くない
男子に関してはNHKの受信料狙いだから民法で手が出ないのは当然
209名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4eBA8RTg0
>>202
カタールはNHKですら出し渋ってサイゲが出さなきゃGLの日本戦のみの放送になってた、なんて話もあるほどなんだが?
男子の方の話な
221名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZbcdvyQ00
>>209
うん、だから?
男子は受信料狙って超ぼったくり
女子はぼったくりだが男子ほどじゃない、しかし採算取れないので出し渋っている

だけの話

289名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4eBA8RTg0
>>221
男子の方も出し渋り始めたって話だよ
今までも採算が取れなかったのを我慢して放送し続けてきたけど
全国放送6局の内テレ東、日テレ、TBSが抜けて男子女子に関わらずサッカーW杯自体が日本での放送危機にあるって事
実際問題AFC主催試合の2028年までの放映権高値過ぎて民放が買わなかったのをDAZNが買って
この前のACLだけじゃなくて女子サッカーやフットサル、A代表含めて今度はDAZNから買うことになったからな
この放映権には次回W杯の最終予選も入ってるし、そろそろ日本頼みのサッカーの放映権バブルが弾ける頃じゃないかなー、と思ってね
297名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZbcdvyQ00
>>289
だから?
ここは女子のスレで男子の放映権もぼったくりで買えないのなんてお前が長文書かなくても全部知ってるし
306名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q2dCJ8Yc0
>>297
まあーそうだな、
でもそれくらいの駄文、捨てレスは垂れ流させてやれよ
読む読まないはそれぞれが決めりゃいいし

そんな事みんなが知ってるニダ!とかお前は思うかもだが
知らないやつは知らないんだろうし

303名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4eBA8RTg0
>>297
お前さんとは話が通じないのが分かったからNGして逃げるわ ノシ
308名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZbcdvyQ00
>>303
話が通じないのはお前が男子の話をしてくるからだろガイジ
自分がガイジなのに気づけな
179名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0qj4HnCG0
>>174

日本だけ特別ぼったくり価格なせいだろ
全部電通のせいだが
男子のW杯も相手のいい値でどんどん吊り上げられた末に破断寸前だったわけで

電通が俺のせいじゃねえって頓珍漢なネガキャンしているが
どう見ても電通のせいだろ

246名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q2dCJ8Yc0
>>179
なにが 逆 なの?そのレスとお前のレス
逆 から始める関連性まるでないんだけど知恵遅れかなんか?

確かに国内の放映権料が爆上がりしたのは
電通成田豊のせいだが
それとそいつのレス、逆 からはじめて反論する事?

なにそのお前のレス

182名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GcsOtq5A0
>>174
バカ高いんじゃどうしようもないしなぁ
どっかの国みたいに国代表試合は必ず放送させるみたいな法律つくられるんじゃないか
175名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0qj4HnCG02023/06/27(火) 14:29:10.18
オールドメディアも今回の件はトラウマになったろうから
もうマイナ-スポーツを無駄におあったりしなくなる感じだろうな
まぁ、五輪ももう死んだしスポーツを取り上げる必要自体がないもんな
215名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lpIIdHi80
>>175
ラグビーは必死にメディア出て周知活動して煽って貰ってるのにね
女子サッカーは明らかにそのへんサボってるよね
177名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WXYO2beI02023/06/27(火) 14:29:40.03
どうせ最後はNHKが金を出すんだろ、と思ってるのはあるんだろうな
180名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7CYiwQl402023/06/27(火) 14:31:10.83
今回やっと白人の言いなりになって金を毟られる情けない国から脱せそうなんだぞ喜ぼう
191名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0qj4HnCG0
>>180
電通って本当しょうもない組織だったよな
交渉ってもんを知らないみたいだし
何で相手のいい値で20年で6倍も放映権が暴騰してんだよっていう
195名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8T6Xcwvu0
>>191
放映権料が高いほどキックバックも
181名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NZLBwT3p02023/06/27(火) 14:31:23.97
需要がない
183名無しさん@恐縮ですID:r3xsDBIP02023/06/27(火) 14:33:32.23
だからさ、女が女子サッカーに興味ないのよ。
男女平等とかいなら、まずはそこさらだろうよ。
184名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V1BwF82b02023/06/27(火) 14:34:09.62
190億よくきくけど実際まじなの?
クラファンでどうにかなるレベルじゃないよなw
188名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d14hpN0Q02023/06/27(火) 14:36:38.49
フットサルにした方が人気出る
189名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7CYiwQl402023/06/27(火) 14:36:44.60
この女子リーグを全国の中学生と対戦する流浪のリーグにすりゃちょっと興味湧くけどな
190名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZMVGrlZV02023/06/27(火) 14:36:47.09
結果出せよ
ベスト8までいったら嫌でも放送してくれる
206名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XZDzW92A0
>>190
澤さんの時代も人気なんてなかったけどなんかサッカーの女子代表が勝ってるらしいで突如話題になっただけだもんな
192名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xH0ZLFkV02023/06/27(火) 14:37:55.70
1/10の値段になっても買われないと思うがな
193名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GcsOtq5A02023/06/27(火) 14:38:03.06
まぁ買わないでいいだろ
190億は無いわ
194名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jumkKor702023/06/27(火) 14:38:04.10
1400人なら
まあ1000円として140万

会場30万
選手監督スタッフまあ50人として
一人2万
成り立つんじゃないか?
一試合2万なら参加しにいくわ
急にボールが来たら蹴ればいいんだろ?

196名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9j15PAD02023/06/27(火) 14:38:20.74
ウーマンエンパワーなんだろ?
オッサンには見に来て欲しくないんだろ?

女だけで金作ればええやん
こういうときこそフェミが声を大にするときなのにw
女が味方しない女子リーグの明日はどっちだ!

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