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751名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7NOGlqba02023/06/28(水) 08:42:14.29
電通がガンといってもJリーグやサッカーと公式スポンサーパートナーなんだからしゃーない
金貰っていておいて電通がガンとかえらい言いよう

じゃあ今すぐ電通と手切って、今までのスポンサーでだした金かえせって話し

752名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9ezOKw102023/06/28(水) 08:47:55.89
男子中学生レベルとバカにしてるけど陸上競技の記録みてもそんなもんだし
柔道や他のスポーツもそんなもんだろう
女子サッカーだけ劣っているわけじゃない
753名無しさん@恐縮ですID:I0EcvgoF0
>>752
技術やパワー、スピードレベルが低いせいで試合自体が面白くない
男子と同じピッチでやるのがダメなのかもな
755名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7NOGlqba0
>>752
個人競技だとどうにかなるけどそれが11人+交代選手
いれるとレベル差はとんでもなく感じるんよ、だからルール的に変えてあるのが普通テニスとかでも3セットマッチにになるしな
陸上なんかも歩幅で届かないから110mハードルが100mハードルになったり砲丸ややり投げも重さが違う
754名無しさん@恐縮ですID:H+AiKBR102023/06/28(水) 08:55:46.96
外人は一度決めた価格を下げることはないからな
ブランド品とか、iPhoneとかも値上げ一方
やるとしたら廉価版の新プランだろうな
ネットのみ視聴化とか
まあいずれにしても次回以降
756名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NrK8Jli+02023/06/28(水) 09:01:16.51
男子のW杯が電通の宣伝で人気出ちゃっただけで
サッカー自体は面白いものじゃないからね

W杯やそれに出るような選手のプレーは電通の宣伝に乗せられた
人たちがありがたがって見るけど、サッカーそのものは
点が入らんし運の要素強いし、競技としてはつまらない
サッカーのつまらなさが女子を見るとはっきりするってだけ

761名無しさん@恐縮ですID:I0EcvgoF0
>>756
サッカーは人気が世界一のスポーツです
773名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NrK8Jli+0
>>761
サッカーが世界一の人気スポーツってのは、
電通が日本にW杯を売り込むための宣伝文句でしかないからね
日本の場合、電通の宣伝に乗せられてしまっただけで、
サッカーの試合のそのものの楽しみ方が浸透してないんでしょ
だから、W杯に出るような選手やプレー以外は受け入れられない
もちろん、そういうプレーと程遠い女子の試合は酷評される
948名無しさん@恐縮ですID:l1JbKU2T0
>>773
こーゆー人はWBC優勝喜んでそうな情弱お爺ちゃん
775名無しさん@恐縮ですID:I0EcvgoF0
>>773
ファン人口が世界一なのは事実です
780名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7NOGlqba0
>>775
それと日本とスレタイにどう関係あるんや?
802名無しさん@恐縮ですID:I0EcvgoF0
>>780
お前が言ってるような電通のハッタリではないってこと
806名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7NOGlqba0
>>802
だからスレタイにどう関係あるんやそれがw
809名無しさん@恐縮ですID:I0EcvgoF0
>>806
お前の書き込みへの反論レスだが
アホ?
811名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7NOGlqba0
>>809
あ、アホでしたか NGで
スレタイに全く関係ない事で反論したつもりのアホか
817名無しさん@恐縮ですID:I0EcvgoF0
>>811
逃げるなよw
777名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9s6+8tFM0
>>773
世界的に見て視聴者数、視聴率、SNSのハッシュタグの多さ、有名選手のフォロワー

サッカーが世界一の客観的なデータを否定するって君、まさか野球好きか?ww

782名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NrK8Jli+0
>>777
本当にサッカーという競技が面白いなら
女子の試合だって面白いはずだと思うけどね

日本の場合、サッカーが世界で人気って電通の宣伝に乗せられただけ
だから、何が面白いのかわからないまま、サッカーすごいってやってるだけ

電通の高橋は、宣伝の力だけでペレの引退試合を日本でやって
国立競技場を満員にしたんだな。その力が評価されて
FIFAからも重用されるようになった。
サッカーって、そういう宣伝が上手だっただけなんだわ

787名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nb3dvcLl0
>>782
日本女子プロ野球機構って知ってる?
798名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CFtYr0xH0
>>773
女子単体でW杯っていうイベントやれるくらいには人気ではあるんじゃないの?
大体の女子競技って男子と一緒にやってコスト抑えてるし

まぁ、だから興行としてのポテンシャルがガッツリバレちゃうんだけど

799名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5zC1eEqr0
>>773
認知が歪みすぎで何も語る資格が無いな
客観的事実を認める所から始めようか
757名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/Qr+9r+E02023/06/28(水) 09:05:36.38
北米のゴールドカップ今開催しててYoutubeで無料で観れるんだけど、女子の大会もそうしてほしいわ
カネのことよりもまずファン獲得に動いてほしい
758名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+JeyZCJc02023/06/28(水) 09:07:24.72
需要以上の値段で売りつけてきてるのが問題
759名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T23eUJIB02023/06/28(水) 09:09:06.56
FIFAとしては男子の半分のファンはいるって認識だから
日本は人気ないとかそんなもんは知らないし、日本で勝手になんとかしろって話だろう
762名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jKb5cZCb0
>>759
FIFAの奴隷なわけじゃないんだから需要なくて不当に高いものは買わなきゃいいだけのこと
女子買わなかったら男子も売らないとかもっと調子にのって出場させないまで言い出すならそれこそサッカー界が崩壊するだろうね
760名無しさん@恐縮ですID:02GHmVnm02023/06/28(水) 09:10:43.61
女子サッカーを見たいって欲求よりも、糞外人と電通にボッタくられる屈辱の方が遥かにデカい

だから糞外人と電通に我々の金が渡るなら見ないという結論になった
これが日本人の総意

763名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lERQv87g02023/06/28(水) 09:18:32.91
2011年以降露出増えたけど、そこでつまらないってことが浸透したんだと思うよ
それ以前は澤とかが頑張ってんなってだけだったから
766名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BEqgdwEq02023/06/28(水) 09:29:01.92
放映しなくて良いだろ。
需要ないし。

河川敷か小学校のグラウンド借りてデジカメで撮影、YOUTUBEにアップすれば見たいやつは見るだろ。

768名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qthyiQwE02023/06/28(水) 09:32:12.54
人気がないのが一番の問題
女子サッカー見るくらいならバレーボール、卓球、カーリングのほうが面白いんだよ
770名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xXVmuHyR02023/06/28(水) 09:34:10.44
カワイ子ちゃんが頑張るから応援する。
プ細工が男子中学生並みのサッカーしてても誰も見ない、これが現状。
まずカワイ子ちゃんを集めろよ。

丸山桂里奈も現役時代はけっこう可愛かったぞ。
https://jimmys-room.com/archives/6499

774名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Sxg+upAv0
>>770
本並の元奧さんは美人だったし優しかったと友達が言ってたな
771名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qUXsC4rR02023/06/28(水) 09:35:48.05
フットサルの広さにしたら
スピード感出て面白そうだけどな
今は見ててつまらん
772名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gO/rikNK02023/06/28(水) 09:37:03.04
電通擁護している奴 大丈夫か
あいつらが原因で放映権料金上がったのに
778名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gO/rikNK02023/06/28(水) 09:42:45.89
サッカーが世界で1番の人気スポーツなのは異論はない
だけど日本国内だけで見たら、そうじゃないんだよな
779名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7V6k6JGK02023/06/28(水) 09:43:24.51
男子中学生に負けるレベルなんだからエッチ盛り込むしか生き残る道は無いのいい加減認めろや
783名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jJx4/bDP02023/06/28(水) 09:47:06.06
女子サッカーとかお金貰ってもみないだろ
眠くなる
784名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wMKwCTfV02023/06/28(水) 09:48:29.25
ブサイクやからな。
785名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hz03v89r02023/06/28(水) 09:48:32.88
男女平等とテレビは言いながら
女子ワールドカップの放映権が高いとそこまでの価値が無いと突っぱねてるからな笑笑
テレビは嘘ばかり
786名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7NOGlqba02023/06/28(水) 09:48:40.24
https://www.crs.or.jp/data/pdf/sports23.pdf
「7月から8月に、オーストラリアとニュージーランドで女子のサッカーワールドカップが開催されます。あなたはどのくらい関心がありますか。この中から1つだけ選んでください。」

「非常に関心がある」が 4.5%、「ある程度関心がある」が 23.9%で、この2つを合わせた『関心あり』は 28.4%となっている。
一方で、「あまり関心がない」(37.7%)と「まったく関心がない」(32.5%)を合わせた『関心なし』は 70.2%となり『関心あり』を大きく上回った。

現実は厳しい、まあ実際この前のオリンピックでクソなの見せつけられたからな
https://www.crs.or.jp/data/pdf/sports23.pdf

966名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Rfxk5fnV0
>>786
いまだにイチローや長嶋茂雄が人気選手に入ってる調査が馬鹿馬鹿しすぎる
969名無しさん@恐縮ですID:04UDMktb0
>>966
馬鹿馬鹿しい扱いしているけどそれが現実や
未だ三浦カズが入るのがサッカーやで
788名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hz03v89r02023/06/28(水) 09:49:48.34
欧州は結局公共放送が放送する
日本もNHKがやれよ
何のための受信料なんだ
793名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jKb5cZCb0
>>788
むしろこんなのに受信料ばらまくのやめて値下げしてほしいわ
受信料でたらふく肥えたNHKが気前よく放映権買ってたからこんなことになってるんだし
790名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1ZuZ+Fl20
>>788
じゃあクラファン100万くらいは寄付しろよな
まず自分から行動することだ
831名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OPFiM0Jc0
>>788
アメリカはともかく欧州各国が払った額は日本が提示した額と同じぐらい
欧州には安く売って日本にはぼったくりFIFAはまずアジア差別をやめろw
789名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hz03v89r02023/06/28(水) 09:50:32.94
八村逃げたバスケワールドカップより
見たいよ
791名無しさん@恐縮ですID:p8vy2VWB02023/06/28(水) 09:52:30.13
今からクラファンしてってアホなんか?
クラファンなら6ヶ月前には終わらして交渉して放送局と日時
今の時点で決まってないとだめだろ
チェアマン無能
794名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hz03v89r02023/06/28(水) 09:53:10.73
一番女子ワールドカップを見てたのが日本人だからな
600万人見てた
FIFAも最終的には折れるだろ
795名無しさん@恐縮ですID:p8vy2VWB02023/06/28(水) 09:54:21.22
大谷何試合分の価格なのか知りたい
805名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gO/rikNK0
>>795
民放が2億くらい提示して、FIFAに話にならないって
言われた話があるから、最初の要求はまじで余裕で30億以上は
行っているだろうな
仮に折れても10億は要求しているだろうな
796名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dmT62Vsy02023/06/28(水) 09:54:26.58
だってつまんないんだもん
797名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hz03v89r02023/06/28(水) 09:55:04.27
焼き豚 需要ない
女子ワールドカップを一番観てたのは日本人でした
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