250名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JAkjFUsn02023/07/09(日) 17:18:58.37
返納運動してるような奴は老人かバカサヨの人生に行き詰まったゴキブリみたいな人間だろ
生きてる価値の無いゴキブリ人間の運動なんて何の価値もない
生きてる価値の無いゴキブリ人間の運動なんて何の価値もない
251名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8raWCDKe02023/07/09(日) 17:19:04.01
＞全部ちゃんとならないとダメというと日本のデジタルは遅れていく
そもそも来年にマイナンバーカード制度の紐付けを終わらせて運用する根拠に合理性がないから。単に拙速すぎるだけ。規約の免責条項もアレやな。
252名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5RMyoN/a02023/07/09(日) 17:19:48.77
マイナ推進派はやる住民票というけど
住民票って人生で何度取りに行く？
そんな頻繁ではないよね
それに住民票取りに行く必要ある時は
財産関係にしても、印鑑証明がセットだったり戸籍謄本が必要だったりする
なら、役所で一回で取る方がいい
役所は袋もあるからそれに書類入れてもってこれる
住民票って人生で何度取りに行く？
そんな頻繁ではないよね
それに住民票取りに行く必要ある時は
財産関係にしても、印鑑証明がセットだったり戸籍謄本が必要だったりする
なら、役所で一回で取る方がいい
役所は袋もあるからそれに書類入れてもってこれる
253名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TQpXO+Am02023/07/09(日) 17:19:59.68
マジで返納するくらいなら作らなきゃ良いのに
254名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fQJdQLji02023/07/09(日) 17:20:33.29
誰が、どんくらいの人が、言ってるのか知らねぇくせにカウンター問題提起してんじゃねぇバッカン
255名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7SsD30UE02023/07/09(日) 17:20:39.96
返納しても意味ないからwww
って言うのは既に個人情報は支那チョンサーバーに回してあるからって意味な
って言うのは既に個人情報は支那チョンサーバーに回してあるからって意味な
256名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xmdQqkaK02023/07/09(日) 17:20:58.06
いつまで日本のデジタル遅れてる詐欺やんの？www
行き着く先はグレートリセットのくせにwww
行き着く先はグレートリセットのくせにwww
【 世界のマイナンバー制度/国民総背番号制 】
ドイツ→憲法違反認定でマイナンバー不採用
フランス→国民猛反対でマイナンバー不採用
イギリス→マイナンバーは人権侵害である事と、巨額の国費が浪費される事から短期間で撤回
アメリカ→社会保障番号は任意加入。日本の様に強制ではない。
毎年ナンバーが漏洩。不正受給や、勝手に借金を作られたり物を買われてしまうといった “成りすまし” による金融犯罪が横行。
※国防省の関係者は狙われやすいのでマイナンバーから離脱
カナダ→社会保障番号は任意加入。日本の様に強制ではない。
イタリア→納税者番号が社会保障の分野でも利用されているが、日本のような生涯不変の番号ではない。
257名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:p0J7KM2a02023/07/09(日) 17:21:16.44
きょう印鑑証明をコンビニで発行してきた
便利で助かるよ
便利で助かるよ
259名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RiRvsKXy02023/07/09(日) 17:21:26.89
といっても別に現行でもなんの問題も無いからな
俺もマイナカード結局作らなかったけど
現行の保険証使って金曜日に健康診断行ったばっかだわｗ
本当に必要になったら取りに行くけどな
俺もマイナカード結局作らなかったけど
現行の保険証使って金曜日に健康診断行ったばっかだわｗ
本当に必要になったら取りに行くけどな
261名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5RMyoN/a02023/07/09(日) 17:22:31.09
自分は最後に住民票取りにいったのは15年前だわ
それ以来必要ない
それ以来必要ない
262名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tCtRuBeF02023/07/09(日) 17:22:35.80
コイツの逆が正解なんだよな
270名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jsYOtQ0T0
>>262
パックン｢ミスはどんどん修正していけばいい｣
パックン｢ミスはどんどん修正していけばいい｣
これの逆だから、
一度決まった制度は修正せずに最後まで使え！
憲法も改憲せずに永久にそのままにしろ！
と言うことでおk？
279名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tCtRuBeF0
>>270
逆というかデタラメね
逆というかデタラメね
264名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S9iQkSPK02023/07/09(日) 17:22:46.79
パヨックンの逆張りか
265名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Aed7SWyB02023/07/09(日) 17:23:04.98
266名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KVc403TN02023/07/09(日) 17:23:06.28
保険証は未だ残して マイナはアプリで出せカス
それがデジタル社会だろ
267名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WPu91evF02023/07/09(日) 17:23:57.55
返納どうこうより5年後の大量更新の方が問題だろ
ポイント貰える訳でもないのにわざわざ時間や手間かけて更新するメリットが無いからな
ポイント貰える訳でもないのにわざわざ時間や手間かけて更新するメリットが無いからな
269名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2vJyHTZY02023/07/09(日) 17:25:33.32
100%失敗する制度だからなw
国民は損しかしない
電力自由化の時と同じw
便利になるからとデマ言って100%電気代値上げになるの分かってたしw
国民は損しかしない
電力自由化の時と同じw
便利になるからとデマ言って100%電気代値上げになるの分かってたしw
272名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:irXFFvW502023/07/09(日) 17:26:14.46
これからはAIによって統治されるデジタル監視社会になるからね
マイナンバーの顔認識と信用スコアによって
低スコアの人間は排除される
スコア別に暮らす地域が決まる
これからはスーパー格差移民社会になるからね
これがグローバル化とAI化の最終段階である新共産主義
民主主義、自由主義、資本主義の時代は終焉を迎えたんだよ
マイナンバーの顔認識と信用スコアによって
低スコアの人間は排除される
スコア別に暮らす地域が決まる
これからはスーパー格差移民社会になるからね
これがグローバル化とAI化の最終段階である新共産主義
民主主義、自由主義、資本主義の時代は終焉を迎えたんだよ
273名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5RMyoN/a02023/07/09(日) 17:26:25.19
デジタル化もなにも使うことないし
マイナンバーカードは持ってるし返納する気もない
ただ紐付けとか一切してない
マイナンバーカードは持ってるし返納する気もない
ただ紐付けとか一切してない
274名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zc9RLJmr02023/07/09(日) 17:26:55.57
もう先月で２万人失効してて
４７万人失効してるよマイナンバーｗｗｗ
わたしからは以上だな ミカエル(悟ったもの)より
275名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VUplEBq002023/07/09(日) 17:27:01.61
これ本当に思う
ミスがないよう修正させていくんじゃなくジジババに忖度して制度そのものに反対してる立憲共産党とか本当にセンスが悪い
ミスがないよう修正させていくんじゃなくジジババに忖度して制度そのものに反対してる立憲共産党とか本当にセンスが悪い
276名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4J6uU14v02023/07/09(日) 17:27:26.04
どんな株買ってるんだろう
是非参考にしたい
是非参考にしたい
277名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5TzmqPY602023/07/09(日) 17:27:35.53
最初マイナンバー作ったのに、返納するのは
職員のミスに不安を持ったから？
職員のミスに不安を持ったから？
278名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A1g6U+pC02023/07/09(日) 17:27:52.68
新生児からでイイんじゃね？
280名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WPu91evF02023/07/09(日) 17:29:24.52
下請けの下請けの下請けとかで日本政府も実際どの企業が関わってるのか、下請けに中国在住の中国企業もいるのかどうかすら分かってないんとちゃうか
281名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zc9RLJmr02023/07/09(日) 17:29:40.33
個人情報も漏洩してるしｗｗｗ
国が民間レベルの仕事すらこなせていない状態
しかもタップ一回で口座と紐づけるのに
タップ３回行わないと解除できないとか
コンプライアンス、説明責任のありかたからしても
問題 通常民間だったら消費者相談センターに問い合わせてもいいレベル
是正勧告も必要だし、クーリングオフしてもいい案件ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
わたしからは以上だな ミカエル(悟ったもの)より
294名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>281
cocoaとかの件でも言われてたが
ちゃんと技術のある業者に任せて無いからだよ
大抵、政治家や官僚と繋がってる企業に発注される
でも民間には技術がある企業が居るのにそこへ発注されない
ここが問題
cocoaとかの件でも言われてたが
ちゃんと技術のある業者に任せて無いからだよ
大抵、政治家や官僚と繋がってる企業に発注される
でも民間には技術がある企業が居るのにそこへ発注されない
ここが問題
>>286
これを利用したい企業がいるって事
536 名無しステーション 2023/07/09(日) 13:38:52.70 ID:c1xJguNja
マイナンバーカードにはマイナンバーの他にもう一つ、シリアルナンバーってのがICチップの中に埋め込まれてて
このナンバーを利用して個人情報を企業が覗き放題 さらに利活用し放題だって話だが
319名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aYGp0SR70
>>294
官営事業ってのは技術だけじゃ駄目なんだよ
行政の動き方の癖だったり黒を白に変える人間関係だったり法令との阿吽の呼吸だったり、そこらの民間では培えない特殊なノウハウが必要
ある程度以上の規模の官営事業で起こる癒着は必要悪なの
官営事業ってのは技術だけじゃ駄目なんだよ
行政の動き方の癖だったり黒を白に変える人間関係だったり法令との阿吽の呼吸だったり、そこらの民間では培えない特殊なノウハウが必要
ある程度以上の規模の官営事業で起こる癒着は必要悪なの
326名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>319
それ、資本主義じゃないじゃんw
それ、資本主義じゃないじゃんw
345名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aYGp0SR70
>>326
その通り、官営事業は資本主義の例外として扱うべきだ
技術力と価格だけでどこの馬の骨とも分からない業者が落札したらどうなると思う？
その損失を考えれば癒着やキックバックなんて問題にもならない
その通り、官営事業は資本主義の例外として扱うべきだ
技術力と価格だけでどこの馬の骨とも分からない業者が落札したらどうなると思う？
その損失を考えれば癒着やキックバックなんて問題にもならない
357名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>345
アンカー付け忘れたわ
>>352
アンカー付け忘れたわ
>>352
361名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>353
>>294
少し前のレスぐらい読んでから書き込めよ
icチップを企業が見られる
それを利用したい連中が大騒ぎして推進しようとしてる
>>294
少し前のレスぐらい読んでから書き込めよ
icチップを企業が見られる
それを利用したい連中が大騒ぎして推進しようとしてる
まーた大企業の金儲け目当て
282名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5TzmqPY602023/07/09(日) 17:30:03.91
最初から作らない人はマイナンバーを拒否してるからわかるけど
マイナンバーを作った人が返納するのはどうゆー理由なんだろ？気になるな
284名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:12NvEyqP0
>>282
マイナンバーは全国民にとっくに振られてるし拒否出来るものではない
マイナンバーは全国民にとっくに振られてるし拒否出来るものではない
555名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NBsYjcj00
>>284
各種紐づけ（電子マネーや証明書類 健康保険や免許証）が多くの人に関わるこち これらどうなるかな 紐づけ解消しないと返納の意味ないな 検索したら紐づけ消えないそうだｗ
確かにパフォだけでリスクは消えない マイナは酷いシステムとしか言いようがない
各種紐づけ（電子マネーや証明書類 健康保険や免許証）が多くの人に関わるこち これらどうなるかな 紐づけ解消しないと返納の意味ないな 検索したら紐づけ消えないそうだｗ
確かにパフォだけでリスクは消えない マイナは酷いシステムとしか言いようがない
パックンは日本のシステムわかっているくせにこれいうｗ 日本はノーミス命だからな これが長所でもある その反面ミスが大きな代償負うのが日本 融通効かない場合も多くなった
病院で突然１０割負担 あとで返還あるのかも不明 これだけでも貧乏国民にはショックなんだよ
291名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IF6V8Ziv0
>>282
ただのアピールだよw
返納したからっててなにもかわらんし
ただのアピールだよw
返納したからっててなにもかわらんし
283名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n/bnLi1502023/07/09(日) 17:30:15.02
日本人は従いたくないんだよ、ワクチンみたいにメディアが洗脳し続ければ可能。
パッ君はメディア。
パッ君はメディア。
285名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8raWCDKe02023/07/09(日) 17:33:06.52
マイナンバーカードって更新手続が必要なんだぜ？
高齢者が自分で？w
高齢者が自分で？w
302名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GBxBY8r60
>>285
高齢者も生活に必要ならスマホも頑張って覚えるし問題ない
高齢者も生活に必要ならスマホも頑張って覚えるし問題ない
303名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5RMyoN/a0
>>285
それも問題
寝たきり老人やヨボヨボ老人に
無理矢理役所に来い、と
パソコンに入力しろ、と
代理人はダメという意味わからない
それも問題
寝たきり老人やヨボヨボ老人に
無理矢理役所に来い、と
パソコンに入力しろ、と
代理人はダメという意味わからない
594名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oExceipq0
>>303
行かなきゃええやん。
行かなきゃええやん。
286名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:h1UDIwp302023/07/09(日) 17:33:08.35
デジタル化は進めるべきだし色んな機能を付加していくといいと思うけど、紙の健康保険証と運転免許での本人確認を来年廃止ってのは性急過ぎる
便利なら放っといても浸透していくんだし併用期間を長く取るのは何も問題ないと思うんだが
便利なら放っといても浸透していくんだし併用期間を長く取るのは何も問題ないと思うんだが
293名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:F6FekF+F0
>>286
そう
便利なら変わるはず
そう
便利なら変わるはず
294名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>281
cocoaとかの件でも言われてたが
ちゃんと技術のある業者に任せて無いからだよ
大抵、政治家や官僚と繋がってる企業に発注される
でも民間には技術がある企業が居るのにそこへ発注されない
ここが問題
cocoaとかの件でも言われてたが
ちゃんと技術のある業者に任せて無いからだよ
大抵、政治家や官僚と繋がってる企業に発注される
でも民間には技術がある企業が居るのにそこへ発注されない
ここが問題
>>286
これを利用したい企業がいるって事
536 名無しステーション 2023/07/09(日) 13:38:52.70 ID:c1xJguNja
マイナンバーカードにはマイナンバーの他にもう一つ、シリアルナンバーってのがICチップの中に埋め込まれてて
このナンバーを利用して個人情報を企業が覗き放題 さらに利活用し放題だって話だが
319名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aYGp0SR70
>>294
官営事業ってのは技術だけじゃ駄目なんだよ
行政の動き方の癖だったり黒を白に変える人間関係だったり法令との阿吽の呼吸だったり、そこらの民間では培えない特殊なノウハウが必要
ある程度以上の規模の官営事業で起こる癒着は必要悪なの
官営事業ってのは技術だけじゃ駄目なんだよ
行政の動き方の癖だったり黒を白に変える人間関係だったり法令との阿吽の呼吸だったり、そこらの民間では培えない特殊なノウハウが必要
ある程度以上の規模の官営事業で起こる癒着は必要悪なの
326名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>319
それ、資本主義じゃないじゃんw
それ、資本主義じゃないじゃんw
345名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aYGp0SR70
>>326
その通り、官営事業は資本主義の例外として扱うべきだ
技術力と価格だけでどこの馬の骨とも分からない業者が落札したらどうなると思う？
その損失を考えれば癒着やキックバックなんて問題にもならない
その通り、官営事業は資本主義の例外として扱うべきだ
技術力と価格だけでどこの馬の骨とも分からない業者が落札したらどうなると思う？
その損失を考えれば癒着やキックバックなんて問題にもならない
357名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>345
アンカー付け忘れたわ
>>352
アンカー付け忘れたわ
>>352
361名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>353
>>294
少し前のレスぐらい読んでから書き込めよ
icチップを企業が見られる
それを利用したい連中が大騒ぎして推進しようとしてる
>>294
少し前のレスぐらい読んでから書き込めよ
icチップを企業が見られる
それを利用したい連中が大騒ぎして推進しようとしてる
まーた大企業の金儲け目当て
287名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8raWCDKe02023/07/09(日) 17:34:21.41
運転免許の更新のようにマイナンバーカード更新のお知らせハガキを全員に郵送するのか？w
288名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gUx09W9x02023/07/09(日) 17:34:23.72
ニュースにするためにパヨクが返納してるだけ
299名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:F6FekF+F0
>>288
加入した時と規約が変わった時やろうな
加入した時と規約が変わった時やろうな
289名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fzl1ExGE02023/07/09(日) 17:34:40.21
だったらまず政治家と官僚と公務員だけでカード作って
不具合が出ないか確認して
それから一般国民にも普及させたらどうですか？
リスクはお前らが背負え
俺は作らない by河野
不具合が出ないか確認して
それから一般国民にも普及させたらどうですか？
リスクはお前らが背負え
俺は作らない by河野
290名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:L8Ag4IZt02023/07/09(日) 17:34:59.29
マスゴミがすぐ騒ぐからな
292名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5RMyoN/a02023/07/09(日) 17:35:23.48
色んな店で身分証提示も
いまだに免許証か保険証と言われる
マイナカードと言われることない
いまだに免許証か保険証と言われる
マイナカードと言われることない
295名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/5dasQTH02023/07/09(日) 17:35:54.03
政府が資産や口座情報などの個人情報にぎるのはダメ。独裁国家そのものだろ。今や新たな戦前の雰囲気だよ。日本は肉屋を支持する豚が多いから仕方ないが。
296名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:C2RRrfKD02023/07/09(日) 17:35:58.36
時々まともな事言うね
297名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3mfpe0ug02023/07/09(日) 17:36:01.03
マイナンバー反対派は100％負ける
マイナンバー作らない奴時代遅れのアホ
298名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j4TkQQLY02023/07/09(日) 17:36:01.20
返納しているのなんてサヨクしかいねーしｗ
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Wow! This blog looks exactly like my old one! It’s on a completely different subject but it has pretty much the same layout and
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