350名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7lS5fSaM02023/07/09(日) 17:55:15.47
頭おかしい糞外人
351名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T4Kw/kIL02023/07/09(日) 17:55:26.15
制度が厳正化するとお困りになる人達が極一部に存在するのよね
ほぼすべての人達にはメリットとなるんですがね
声の大きな人達って極一部ですもんね
マスコミが拡声器の役割をやってますが
354名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>351
>>129
352名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT02023/07/09(日) 17:56:02.90
それを見極めるのが官僚の仕事だろ
初めから、知見のある企業へ発注するのと
公募するのとでは公平性に欠ける
自民党、グローバル化を目指してる(新自由主義の資本主義)にも関わらず
政治家や官僚と癒着という権威主義や共産主義みたいな事をしてるのは
矛盾してますなあ
資本主義じゃなく
自分達(上級階級)のご都合主義国家じゃん
357名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>345
アンカー付け忘れたわ
>>352
388名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aYGp0SR70
>>352
>それを見極めるのが官僚の仕事だろ
だから見極めてるじゃねーか
君らはよく「お友達企業」「中抜き」と批判するが、発注する側にとっては「いつものところがいつも通り」やってくれるに越したことは無いんだよ
業者の側も政府にコネがあれば便宜を図ってもらえるから仕事のしやすさが格段に上がるしな
誰も不幸にならない
390名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>388
はい?
公平性がありませんが?
それ談合ですよねw
407名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aYGp0SR70
>>390
そこで公平性を持ち出すのは手段と目的を履き違えてるわ
官営事業の大前提は「大きなミスをしないこと」だ
それは事業の中身だけでなく、政府との連携や関係各所との便宜も含めてな
公務員や官僚、大企業の採用で本人の能力よりもコネが最優先されるのは何故だと思う?家柄が知れている安心感と、その人が引っ張ってくる人間関係がそれだけ貴重な財産だからだよ
それと同じだ
409名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>407
まーた、屁理屈捏ねて
スレ伸ばしですか?w
ごちゃごちゃそれらしい事を小難しく語ってスレ伸ばしw
談合体質でいいものは作れませんねえ
448名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aYGp0SR70
>>409
だから「いいものを作る」なんてのは官営事業では最後の最後で考えるお話なの
まずは「細かく指示しなくてもとりあえず上手いことやってくれる」ことが大事なの
4月に新潟県でデータ10万件が吹っ飛んだ事件を知ってるか?あれは保守業者は何も間違ったことはしていない、発注した役所の要件定義が無能だっただけだ
だが責任の所在は市民にとってはどうでもよくて、重要なのは「10万件のデータが跡形も無く消えた」ということ
こういう事例が起こる可能性を少しでも減らすためには「空気を読みながら上手いことやってくれる」業者に頼むしかない
そうすると必然的に縁故のある業者ということになる
353名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QxYynEvz02023/07/09(日) 17:56:44.61
まあマイナンバーとデジタル化なんて
そんな意味のある関係はないけどな
力入れるとこが違う
361名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>353
>>294
少し前のレスぐらい読んでから書き込めよ
icチップを企業が見られる
それを利用したい連中が大騒ぎして推進しようとしてる
まーた大企業の金儲け目当て
355名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Uvnhl2Nw02023/07/09(日) 17:57:21.23
パックン家の情報も全部筒抜けになったとしてもそれでもいいってことなんだなw
356名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7jXfXj8502023/07/09(日) 17:58:00.86
返納が相次いでしまってビビってるわけか(笑)
358名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Uvnhl2Nw02023/07/09(日) 17:58:16.03
山口真由の情報も全部筒抜けになってもいいってことw
間違いは仕方ないって擁護するんだからw
359名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/P++yssg02023/07/09(日) 17:58:17.17
ノーミス文化は本当にうんざりするよな
酷い場合は相手が死ぬまで追い込む奴は何が目的なんだろ
問題解決を求めると言うより叩く事が目的になってる
360名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GBxBY8r602023/07/09(日) 17:59:15.33
これ5月から騒がれ始めたけど消えた年金問題も5月だったし役人がこうなること分かっててサボタージュしてるんちゃうか
5月は通常国会終盤だったり今年は違うけど参院選直前のタイミングで問題が起きるように時限爆弾仕込んでるとか
362名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rIiheCk602023/07/09(日) 18:00:04.04
でも政治家も持ってないんじゃあな
363名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YtAbtjGn02023/07/09(日) 18:00:54.34
開業医って無保険者とかとでも、いろいろなあなあでやってたことが
全部もう一度白日の下にさらされて改めて問題化されるのが嫌なんじゃないかと思う
保険証無い時、医院によって自己負担が100パーだったり150パーだったり200だったり
あと違う医者を何度も受けて薬横流ししたりとか
他人が(だいたい兄弟か友人)保険証を使って受診したり
弱者に無保険だと安く負けてあげて診療する人情派の人もいたり
分かっててやってる医者も沢山いるんだよね
364名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T4Kw/kIL02023/07/09(日) 18:01:03.43
ミスや間違いは見つけ出して修正すれば良いだけ
簡単ですね
人が介在する部分で必ずミスが起きる
当たり前の事ですね
367名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FGorMwRD02023/07/09(日) 18:01:25.61
ミスの仕方がマズいんだろう
他人の情報になっついたり、他人振り込まれてたりw
368名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4ObnrHer02023/07/09(日) 18:01:31.09
カリフォルニア州がお似合いの人が何か言ってる
369名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HkiJpZhd02023/07/09(日) 18:01:46.04
世界一を目指せよwww誰も相手にしなくなるぞアジアからもなwwwwww
370名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2v7P+RM802023/07/09(日) 18:02:21.36
パックン日本社会に感化されて
きっちり役に立たないアメリカ人と化したな
批判の批判とか日本人すぎて不毛すぎる
371名無しさん@恐縮ですID:B6Ga0aSM02023/07/09(日) 18:02:27.44
この人、時々体制に媚び売るよな
372名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cJ0jc5bZ02023/07/09(日) 18:02:28.37
ドりべらるwのパックンに言われてやんの
ミスはアルんだよぉーーー
373名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hpu1Gde802023/07/09(日) 18:03:16.01
まずは役所側の事務手続きの効率化だけで良いと思う
個人認証に拘り過ぎて理想に全く追いついていないし、
セルフサービスさせるにも法整備してないから無責任すぎる
375名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v46P2L2j02023/07/09(日) 18:03:35.62
ノーミス文化とか言うけど最初から起こるだろと言われてたことを案の定起こしてるだけだからな
無能でしか無い
しかもそうなるような状況にしたのはポイントばらまいた政府だし
387名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4B28ueFo0
>>375
あたりまえだろミスはおきるんだから
起こるだろうとあわれてたことって明日太陽が昇るくらいあたりまえのことをいって
ミスを許さないっていってるだけだろ
376名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CbHYVuh502023/07/09(日) 18:04:20.47
まあサヨクが日本政府叩きに利用しているのと保険証を不正利用していたヤツラがガチで困るのでとにかく批判し続けている
それに一部のバカがわけも分からず返納しているのが現状だね
378名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>376
保険証は顔写真入れたら解決する問題で、マイナンバーカード要りませんよねw
385名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ewrd8i7/0
>>378
今さら保険証に顔を入れるよりマイナカードのが早いだろ。
389名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>377
> パックンこと米国人タレントのパトリック・ハーランが9日、テレビ朝日「ビートたけしのTVタックル」に出演。
この番組内でカードにはicチップがあり、そこから企業が個人情報を読み取れるとね
だからこのスレ立て人の1が
その情報を書かなかった
>>385
作りたくないから、保険証に顔写真入れたら
大陸関係は問題解決するだろと言ってる
398名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7jXfXj850
>>376
返納はサヨクと関係ないから、一部のバカか
一部のバカはお前ら壺だろ
知恵遅れレベル(笑)
379名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QxYynEvz02023/07/09(日) 18:05:52.97
現場はほんとに大変だと思うよw
青島「和久さん、どうして上は現場の声を聞いてくれないんですか」
380名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aVqAUS4302023/07/09(日) 18:05:56.33
間違えで医療費十割負担させられたらたまったもんじゃないし死活問題だろ
400名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YtAbtjGn0
>>380
実際は無保険診療が10割負担で済むところは少ない
悪徳でない普通の医院でも15割とか普通
自由診療は税制が違うんで10割でもペイできないとか何とか
382名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oqkZYyVB02023/07/09(日) 18:06:44.60
このパックンあたりが忠誠を誓っている相手が
日本の富をごっそり盗ろうとしてる本丸なんだろうな。
401名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7jXfXj850
>>382
そう、グローバリスト、国際金融資本というやつ
383名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2vJyHTZY02023/07/09(日) 18:08:00.95
もう2兆円使ってるからな
また増税して天下りたいだけよ
いつも通りあとは知ったことじゃない
384名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GBxBY8r602023/07/09(日) 18:08:20.57
マスゴミは自分たちの利権や金ズルになってるものには見て見ぬふりする傾向がある、アイドルとか宗教とかパチや競馬のギャンブル依存症とか
だからマイナンバーの宣伝としてテレビCMや新聞や週刊誌の広告にバンバン税金使えばいいんだな
386名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GDg2ssWz02023/07/09(日) 18:09:17.21
でこの人たちはマイナカード持ってて全て紐付けたの?
最初にそこ聞かないと
391名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X0G6yj1T02023/07/09(日) 18:10:32.92
そうだよ
富士通なんてこんなもん
個人情報って言っても漏れてなんか問題あるのか
392名無しさん@恐縮ですID:de7OQn3K02023/07/09(日) 18:10:50.90
パックン、ワクチン打て打て言うた罪は忘れへんで
393名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4j0H4Op902023/07/09(日) 18:11:05.46
製造業でも不良品を出さない様に配慮し過ぎて価格が高止まりしてる
人間が仕事しててミス無しなんて難しいんだからそれをゼロに近付けるには金が掛かって当たり前だしそんなのはお客さんも望んでないと思うけどなぁ
394名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T4Kw/kIL02023/07/09(日) 18:11:11.88
ICチップの情報が~~
銀行やクレジットのカードにもICチップ入ってますよ~
マイナカードだけが問題だ~って意味不明
どゆ事なんでしょ
404名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>394
頭が悪いんですね
色んな、情報と紐付けられてるから
その情報を読み取られるのは問題という話なんですが?
頭が悪い頭で考えて
どうやったらあの野郎を黙らせる事が出来るか?と考えたんですね
お前レベルの人間が俺にレスバで勝てねえよw
>>396
文句があるなら
テレ朝にクレーム入れたら良いだろ!
それともタダ払きさせておいて
てめーのクソブログへ転載する為のソースを出させようってか?
クソアフィしね
414名無しさん@恐縮ですID:46AupoR30
>>404
だからパックンが言っていたとしてその情報源はどこなのw
パックンが言っていることが正しいならマイナ返納者はバカみたいだけどww
419名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zmIHArNT0
>>414
だからテレ朝に問い合わせしたら良いだろw
俺がテレ朝が言ったと言ってるんだから
テレ朝が言ってないなら
俺はテレ朝から訴えられる
それだけ分かっていて、俺が嘘を言うわけないだろw
397名無しさん@恐縮ですID:t4oyOJSj02023/07/09(日) 18:11:55.31
返してもマイナンバー紐付け残るしなw
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I highly advise to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it has been only dismay as well as concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find an honest platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it has been only disappointment and doubts about deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out a trustworthy service for your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was only dismay along with concerns regarding scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, seek out an honest platform to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise stay away from this site. The experience I had with it was purely disappointment along with suspicion of scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a trustworthy platform for your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this site. My personal experience with it has been nothing but disappointment as well as doubts about fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, look for a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.
I urge you stay away from this site. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay along with concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this site. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay and concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a more reputable site to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My personal experience with it was only dismay along with suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, find an honest site for your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this site. My personal experience with it was nothing but frustration along with suspicion of deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or even better, seek out an honest platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was purely disappointment as well as concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, find a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was only disappointment and suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out a more reputable site to fulfill your requirements.
I could not resist commenting. Exceptionally well written!
I highly advise steer clear of this platform. My own encounter with it was purely dismay and doubts about deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a more reputable platform for your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay and concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or even better, seek out a more reputable site to meet your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this site. The experience I had with it has been only disappointment and suspicion of deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out an honest platform to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise steer clear of this platform. My own encounter with it has been only dismay along with suspicion of fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a more reputable platform for your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it has been nothing but disappointment and concerns regarding scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find an honest service for your needs.
I highly advise steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it was only dismay and doubts about scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, seek out a more reputable platform to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise steer clear of this platform. My personal experience with it was purely dismay along with doubts about fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, look for an honest site to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this site. My personal experience with it has been nothing but disappointment and suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, look for a trustworthy platform for your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it was purely dismay and suspicion of deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, look for a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you stay away from this site. My own encounter with it was purely dismay as well as suspicion of scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or even better, find a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it has been purely frustration as well as concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find a more reputable platform for your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it was only disappointment along with suspicion of fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, seek out a trustworthy platform to meet your needs.
I urge you stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it has been only frustration along with suspicion of fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I really like it whenever people get together and share thoughts.
Great blog, keep it up!
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it was purely dismay and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find a trustworthy site to meet your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it has been nothing but disappointment along with doubts about fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, look for a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I urge you stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it has been only frustration and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, seek out a more reputable site to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise stay away from this site. My personal experience with it was nothing but dismay as well as concerns regarding scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, seek out a trustworthy site to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise steer clear of this platform. My own encounter with it has been only frustration as well as doubts about deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or even better, find a trustworthy platform to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it has been nothing but dismay and doubts about scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find an honest site to meet your needs.
Wow! This blog looks exactly like my old one! It’s on a completely different subject but it has pretty much the same layout and
design. Excellent choice of colors!
I highly advise steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it was only frustration and doubts about scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, seek out a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this site. My personal experience with it has been purely frustration as well as suspicion of deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, seek out a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you stay away from this platform. My own encounter with it was nothing but frustration and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, find a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it was purely frustration as well as suspicion of fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, seek out an honest site for your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was purely disappointment along with doubts about scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, find a trustworthy service to fulfill your requirements.