651名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Td94ltSk02023/07/07(金) 21:35:58.03
公文書改ざん、他国なら重罪、政権交代待ったなし
日本なら不問ｗ
日本なら不問ｗ
652名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uVtd0eZx02023/07/07(金) 21:36:09.26
今の若者はそんなに貧しいのかね
昭和や平成の頃の方がずっと貧しかったでしょ
昭和や平成の頃の方がずっと貧しかったでしょ
658名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nNz7PYV40
>>652
周りと比べたらそりゃトップが伸びてるから、貧しく感じるんじゃないのかな。
周りと比べたらそりゃトップが伸びてるから、貧しく感じるんじゃないのかな。
使い放題のインターネットも、お店に行かずに映画を見放題も平成初期なかった。
通信通話は従量制で有限を意識させられた。
メールはPOPで巡回して取得。
冷房加湿も今ほど普及してなかったし、
オプジーボみたいな有能特効薬もなく、C型肝炎も辛いインターフェロンですら半分も治らない。
今は自分と刺して境遇は変わらなかったはずのYoutuberが大金使った情報とかが年中入ってきて惨めに感じるのもあるんだろう。
昔は長者番付の時で、それもテレビはみんなで見るから話題のタネになるだけだった。
情報が増えて、劣等感や羨望が増えたんだよ。
まぁ詰まるところ、貧しくなったと思うよ。本人が本気でそう感じているんだから仕方がない。
653名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Td94ltSk02023/07/07(金) 21:36:41.89
首相がお友達優遇
韓国なら禁錮20年
日本なら不問ｗ
韓国なら禁錮20年
日本なら不問ｗ
654名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy02023/07/07(金) 21:37:48.17
アメリカにも実質賃金下がりつづけた３０年があった。
割安にならないと投資ははいらない
割安にならないと投資ははいらない
657名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Td94ltSk0
>>654
少子化の加速が止まらない日本とアメリカを比べて意味あんの？？
少子化の加速が止まらない日本とアメリカを比べて意味あんの？？
656名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BU70TACu02023/07/07(金) 21:38:59.86
もう誇れるもの無くなってきたから、水が使えるとかで日本スゴイ！するようになったかw
悲しいなあ
659名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Lakt+iAI02023/07/07(金) 21:41:19.85
フランス出羽守
フランスみたいに暴動した方がいいってか
フランスみたいに暴動した方がいいってか
661名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nNz7PYV40
>>659
実際に住んでるかもしれないけど、何もかも日本にどっぷりだよ。
実際に住んでるかもしれないけど、何もかも日本にどっぷりだよ。
フランス持ち出して日本を叩きたがるアナウンサーいたけど、結局日本で稼いで日本で暮らしてるし、日本人の性質なんだろ、外国を持ち上げて自国を落として共感を集めるのが。
662名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gp9u7jiQ02023/07/07(金) 21:44:33.19
賃金の話なら政府に言っても無駄やろ。経営陣と話し合えよ。
政府が肉屋で労働者が豚なら、さしずめ企業は養豚場かぁ。
政府が肉屋で労働者が豚なら、さしずめ企業は養豚場かぁ。
663名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VkrjLcMu02023/07/07(金) 21:46:03.74
こいつ投票に行かないのは大多数に投票してるのと同じやから効率的って言ってたけど じゃあお前はどこの政党に投票したのか理由付きで言ってみろよ低学歴ｗ
選挙権ないのかｗ
実質賃金とか言われてもそこだけを考慮して投票してるなんておらんからなｗ
選挙権ないのかｗ
実質賃金とか言われてもそこだけを考慮して投票してるなんておらんからなｗ
664名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:68pQOVWT02023/07/07(金) 21:48:17.86
何でネガティブな話題が出てきた時だけミクロ視点で有権者小馬鹿にして来る訳こいつ？支持政党なんて実質賃金の増減だけで決めてる訳ちゃうやろ
上から目線過ぎるわこの成金 殺されろよ
上から目線過ぎるわこの成金 殺されろよ
665名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy02023/07/07(金) 21:48:28.84
お前ら言っとくけど 賃金が上がっても その代わりに 物価 も一緒に上がるから勝ち組と負け組がいることには変わりないからな
666名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yQYijBw702023/07/07(金) 21:48:36.19
日本の衰退ヤバすぎだよ
マジで自民党は無能ばっかり
マジで自民党は無能ばっかり
668名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy0
>>666
だからさ GDP とか1人当たり とかあんまり意味ないって
だからさ GDP とか1人当たり とかあんまり意味ないって
673名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nNz7PYV40
>>668
一人当たりGDPが今より高かった時代の方がいいと本気で思ってるか気になるな。
過労死残業バタバタ煙モクモク、パワハラ上等セクハラ当然みたいな社会だった。
一人当たりGDPが今より高かった時代の方がいいと本気で思ってるか気になるな。
過労死残業バタバタ煙モクモク、パワハラ上等セクハラ当然みたいな社会だった。
それが理由でGDPが高かったわけじゃないだろうが、
そんな社会を終わらせるためのコストだと思えば悪くはない。
674名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy0
>>673
1980年代に日本は世界一の一人当たり GDP だったけど俺の親父は九州の土方で手取り15万円だったからな
1980年代に日本は世界一の一人当たり GDP だったけど俺の親父は九州の土方で手取り15万円だったからな
ちなみに 当時 アメリカの一人当たり GDP は5位
いつの時代も どんな状態になっても勝ち組と負け組が別れるのは変わらない
日本人同士の競争に勝たなければ インフレの時代になったところで 給料なんて上がらない
676名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy0
>>673
そして 当時最新のブラウン管テレビ が5万円。
冷蔵庫も5万円
そして 当時最新のブラウン管テレビ が5万円。
冷蔵庫も5万円
667名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy02023/07/07(金) 21:48:48.14
むしろ 才能がなくて 能力がない人からするとインフレの時代の方が厳しいから覚悟しといた方がいいぞ
669名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy02023/07/07(金) 21:49:35.41
能力がない人からすれば給料の上がりは鈍いのに物価は平均的にガンガン 上がっていくから インフレの時代の方が大変だ
眠れの時代で美味しいのは能力のある人だけだよ そういう事実も知った方が良い
670名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy02023/07/07(金) 21:50:14.78
お前らもしかして賃金だけが上がって物価がこのままだなんて思ってないだろうな（笑）
物価もガンガン 上がっていくから 最底辺の人ほど厳しくなるぞ
671名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9L0fIGAK02023/07/07(金) 21:50:25.23
お金を使わない人が賃金似苦言？
月３万だっけ
お金を使わなければ賃金が上がる事はないし寧ろ減っていくだろ
月３万だっけ
お金を使わなければ賃金が上がる事はないし寧ろ減っていくだろ
672名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:J3gvHajK02023/07/07(金) 21:51:59.09
値上げはどんどんするが、賃金は上がらない
ヘルジャパン
677名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nNz7PYV40
>>672
iPhoneをあれだけ安く売っても、ガチャというギャンブルやマッチングばっかりでさっぱり賢くならず、相対的に価値ない人間が増えたのも一因だとマジで思うよ。
効率的になった分他国の人材は伸びた。
iPhoneをあれだけ安く売っても、ガチャというギャンブルやマッチングばっかりでさっぱり賢くならず、相対的に価値ない人間が増えたのも一因だとマジで思うよ。
効率的になった分他国の人材は伸びた。
675名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9L0fIGAK02023/07/07(金) 21:53:36.82
支離滅裂
まずお金を使わないと賃金が上がる事はありません
まずお金を使わないと賃金が上がる事はありません
678名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy0
>>675
世界の経済を決めてるのはアメリカに住んでる 超富裕層のおじさんたちが投資するかどうかだけで決まってるだけだよ
世界の経済を決めてるのはアメリカに住んでる 超富裕層のおじさんたちが投資するかどうかだけで決まってるだけだよ
MMT も 三橋も関係ない
岸田さんはアメリカの戦争にすぐに協力したので 今 投資が入っていて 日経平均が 爆上げしている
679名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy02023/07/07(金) 21:55:36.95
どんな状態になったところで競争は続いていくし勝たなければ 収入は上がらない し勝たなければいい女とセックスはできない ただそれだけのことだよ
680名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QIwhQMs202023/07/07(金) 21:55:39.77
これまでの教育が悪かったんだろう
自民支持をやめても他に入れるべき政党がない状況とか詰んでるやん
こういう状況を作ったのは教育の賜物、それを主導したのが反日バカサヨク
自民支持をやめても他に入れるべき政党がない状況とか詰んでるやん
こういう状況を作ったのは教育の賜物、それを主導したのが反日バカサヨク
682名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s4iAGhiy02023/07/07(金) 21:56:58.21
教育とか全く関係ない。 アメリカに住む超富裕層のおじさんたちの機嫌を損ねたら 投資が来なくなって賃金が上がらなくなるだけ。
でも賃金が上がっても物価も一緒に上がるから同じことだよ
日本の中で競争に勝たなければ 富裕層にはならない
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I highly advise steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it has been nothing but frustration and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find a more reputable service to meet your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this site. My personal experience with it was purely frustration and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, seek out a trustworthy platform for your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this site. My personal experience with it has been purely dismay and suspicion of deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, find a trustworthy site for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it has been only frustration along with doubts about scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out an honest site for your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it has been only frustration along with doubts about fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, seek out a more reputable service for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this site. My personal experience with it was purely dismay and suspicion of fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, find a trustworthy site to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. My personal experience with it was only disappointment as well as doubts about deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, seek out an honest site to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you to avoid this site. My personal experience with it has been nothing but dismay along with doubts about scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, find a trustworthy platform for your needs.
I highly advise steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was nothing but frustration and suspicion of deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, look for an honest service for your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it has been nothing but frustration and doubts about fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise stay away from this site. My personal experience with it has been only frustration as well as doubts about deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, find a trustworthy service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it has been nothing but frustration and doubts about fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or even better, look for a trustworthy service to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise steer clear of this site. My own encounter with it has been nothing but frustration along with doubts about deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, look for an honest service for your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this site. My own encounter with it was purely dismay as well as suspicion of deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, look for an honest service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you to avoid this site. My own encounter with it has been only dismay along with suspicion of scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise steer clear of this site. My own encounter with it was only disappointment along with doubts about fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, find an honest service to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise stay away from this site. The experience I had with it has been only frustration and doubts about deceptive behavior. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a trustworthy service for your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this site. The experience I had with it was purely dismay along with doubts about fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, find a trustworthy platform for your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay as well as doubts about fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, find a trustworthy service for your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this platform. My personal experience with it was purely dismay and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, find a trustworthy platform for your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this site. My personal experience with it was nothing but frustration as well as suspicion of deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or better yet, find a trustworthy service for your needs.
I urge you to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it has been purely frustration as well as suspicion of deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, seek out a trustworthy site for your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this platform. My own encounter with it has been purely disappointment and concerns regarding scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, seek out a more reputable service to meet your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it has been nothing but disappointment and concerns regarding scamming practices. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out a trustworthy service for your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this site. The experience I had with it has been nothing but disappointment and suspicion of fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, find a trustworthy platform to fulfill your requirements.
I highly advise to avoid this platform. My personal experience with it was nothing but dismay as well as doubts about scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, look for a more reputable site to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it was only disappointment and doubts about scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or even better, find a trustworthy service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you steer clear of this site. My own encounter with it has been nothing but disappointment and doubts about fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, look for a more reputable site to fulfill your requirements.
I strongly recommend to avoid this site. My own encounter with it was only frustration as well as doubts about scamming practices. Be extremely cautious, or even better, find a more reputable service to meet your needs.
I urge you steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was purely dismay and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or better yet, look for a more reputable platform to meet your needs.
I strongly recommend stay away from this platform. The experience I had with it was nothing but frustration and concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or better yet, find a more reputable site for your needs.