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【ひろゆき】実質賃金の14か月連続減少に痛烈皮肉 自公支持者は「肉屋を応援する豚なのかな?」

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250名無しさん@恐縮ですID:18ap5PGN02023/07/07(金) 18:10:30.40
日本は自民党の中で政権交代するシステムなんだよ
251名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ab4jzh1a02023/07/07(金) 18:10:41.28
まともな野党が一つも無いんだが、、、、どこもタダで働くキチガイカルトに頼り切ってる
255名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rQdH3zsI0
>>251
全部だめなら持ち回りにしないと長期政権は腐敗する
252名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fF+xycla02023/07/07(金) 18:10:58.77
ブヒッ
253名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9P4+SLOC02023/07/07(金) 18:11:13.56
嫌儲民みたいなこと言いだしたな
もう終わりだろ
254名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PrX4y8nB02023/07/07(金) 18:12:18.10
民主党時代の地獄をまだ覚えてる人多いしまだ難しいんじゃね?
256名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HqVcsrz+02023/07/07(金) 18:12:42.38
維新以外ならどこでもいいや
維新は最低
257名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BMDLClZ502023/07/07(金) 18:12:56.43
肉屋(自民)なら大きくなるまでエサくれるけど、立憲共産党だとエサすらもらえなくなるからな。
258名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UcJlzfz302023/07/07(金) 18:13:00.62
奴隷リーマンは自分で確定申告しないから搾取されてる実感がないんよな
259名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GtX0SXXy02023/07/07(金) 18:13:12.12
中小企業の6割が賃上げしていて物価上昇とはいえ電気ガス料金だって倍になってる訳じゃないのに生活苦しいとか支出見直すべきだろ
それかほぼ完全雇用状態なんだからとっとと転職すればいいだけの話
260名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0MeUMMfl02023/07/07(金) 18:13:22.85
もう海外旅行もいけなくなった日本人w
261名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iEUluFaT02023/07/07(金) 18:13:26.10
でも自民以外が政権とったらもっと悪くなるでしょ?
反論できるやついる?
結局最後はやっぱり自民党だよ
264名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU20
>>261
唯一、成長を目指しているのは維新ですね
自民どうこうではなく、維新以外は基本的に同じで、現状維持の政策です

維新か非維新か、成長できるように変えるのか、このまま維持して衰退するか
その二択です

512名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ab4jzh1a0
>>261
岸田は株価は上がってるけど実質賃金は下がってるからなぁ、日本の政党のゴミなところはまともな政策あげてるとこが
マジで無い事なんだわ
262名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU202023/07/07(金) 18:14:08.75
家電から船から半導体から、何から何まで中韓の企業に根こそぎシェアを奪われまくって
またアメリカのように新しい産業を生み出すこともできない
それで賃金がなぜ上がると思うの?マジで頭おかしいよ

隣に新しくできた超人気のラーメン屋に根こそぎ客を奪われたラーメン屋の従業員の
賃金が上がるわけないのと同じ

賃金を上げたいなら、隣の超人気のラーメン屋に負けないラーメンを作って
客を奪い返すしかないんだよ。それか、別の商売で稼げるようになるか
いずれにしても賃金を上げて豊かになりたいなら、必死で競争して良い商品を作って稼ぐしかないんだよ

競争を否定して賃金上がるなら、資本主義要らないし
みんなで仲良く平和に共産主義をやってればいいじゃんって話

もういい加減に気づけよ・・・
30年だぞ、30年。30年衰退し続けてきて、韓国にはぼろ負けして
これから急成長する東南アジアの国にも現時点で何か国も負けてんだぞ?

269名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8qUR1lif0
>>262
家電とかの最終財で負けるのは先進国が普通に通る道
韓国の経済なんか酷い状況じゃん
271名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU20
>>269
>家電とかの最終財で負けるのは先進国が普通に通る道
だから、アメリカはIT企業で儲けてるし、ドイツやイギリスも儲けてる

成長してないのは世界で日本だけなんです
韓国なんか超急成長します

288名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rLZBJGn/0
>>271
いやさすがに韓国も良くないでしょ
あちらも酷いニュースばかり
だから日本に縋り憑いて来てるんだろうなという有様じゃないか
278名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2UphQf+W0
>>262
しかも今の韓国を作ったのは自民党な
放っておけば未だに北朝鮮と同じだったのに余計なことしてくれたよ
263名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8qUR1lif02023/07/07(金) 18:14:22.09
今の物価上昇はコストプッシュ要因が大きいから
ここで賃金上昇傾向を付けとくと後で物価が安定した時に実質賃金が上がってく
265名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C21nZLet02023/07/07(金) 18:16:11.45
フランスに帰国したら現地配信よろしくねー。何かしら配信に支障出たり、部屋にいてもうるさいかな?

ただ、ひろゆきがフランスに住んでればの話だけど

266名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0MeUMMfl02023/07/07(金) 18:16:14.50
自民党という特大のクソがこの日本を牛耳ってるから未来が失われたなw

衰退していくだけ

267名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ia+QVzyI02023/07/07(金) 18:16:35.48
これはひろゆきの言うとおりだわ
268名無しさん@恐縮ですID:B7EpZY4D02023/07/07(金) 18:16:35.56
肉屋とビーガン選べと言われたら肉屋かなって豚さんもおるやろ
270名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WNLmK2rz02023/07/07(金) 18:18:05.33
平均賃金でも台湾や韓国にも負けてるしな

マジでオワコン国
ありがとう自民党

272名無しさん@恐縮ですID:l7DdkxIv02023/07/07(金) 18:18:33.46
もっと落ちたらいいので自民のままで良いと思う
273名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2oMsHVrr02023/07/07(金) 18:19:03.62
トマトを射ている
275ID:fL5NIXat02023/07/07(金) 18:20:53.35
大丈夫
次も維新に投票するわ

若者が新政党立ち上げないかな?
平均年齢20歳は若返らないとダメよ政治家は

280名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mgWBbfZv0
>>275
若返ったところでアホはアホ
276名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9DaFYM7Y02023/07/07(金) 18:20:56.58
維新に野党第一党やらせてみればいい
いきなり政権はまだ怖いからな
277名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eVCzxlCe02023/07/07(金) 18:21:38.89
外国人犯罪者ホイホイの立憲共産に入れろとw
自民も大概だが犯罪者と分かって入れるはないわw
281名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU202023/07/07(金) 18:23:16.47
30年前は圧倒的で何年も連続で1位だった世界競争力はついに35位
韓国にはぼろ負けで、これから急成長するタイ・マレーシア、そしてインドネシアにまで現時点ですでに負けてるんです

また、豪戦略政策研究所(ASPI)が発表した国別の技術競争力ランキングでも
44項目の技術のうち、37項目で中国が1位
「1軍」は想像以上に圧倒的だった中国と差をあけられてしまった米国。
「2軍」で英国とインドががんばっていて、「3軍」は韓国、ドイツ、オーストラリア、イタリア。
日本が属しているのは、そのあとの「4軍」です。
44項目のうち「トップ5」に入っている項目数でいうと、イランの6項目に対して日本は4項目


これが現実なんです
かつては世界1位の経済力・競争力・技術力だった国がここまで衰退してるのに
賃金なんか上がるわけないでしょ
逆にこれで上がったら驚きですよ

282名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X6OB4f3k02023/07/07(金) 18:23:28.65
大企業のための政党だしな
中小に目を向けている政党ってあるのかね
185名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU20
日本ももう普通に競争も人材の流動性もある、ちゃんと成長できる国を目指しましょうよ
家電から船から半導体から、何から何まで中韓の企業にシェアを奪われまくって
またアメリカのように新しい産業を生み出すこともできずに
賃金上がるわけないでしょ、マジで何を考えてるの?

>>282
そりゃあ今はね
昔の人が世界のどこの国の人達よりも必死で働いて貯めてくれた貯金を
切り崩して生活してるわけだからね

でも、もうそれも続けられないよ
贅沢になれた、稼げない国って・・・地獄ですよ

283名無しさん@恐縮ですID:61sXZ7yp02023/07/07(金) 18:23:41.71
これはひろゆきの言う通り
バカ国民は飼い慣らされた豚
284名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol02023/07/07(金) 18:24:38.70
賃金上昇と税収確保を目指すなら外需重視で輸出を増やさないといけない
日本経済を回せる政党となるとやっぱり自民になる
291名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU20
>>284
外貨を稼ぐには、外国企業に負けない商品やサービスを作る必要があるんです
それが競争を否定する今の自民政権にできますかね?
必死で競争してる国の企業に、競争を否定してる国の企業が勝てますかね?
294名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol0
>>291
競争を否定してるかな?
人件費を下げて海外と競争しようという政党が他にありますか?
298名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU20
>>294
・・・外国の比較しなきゃ意味ないでしょ
維新は解雇規制の緩和など人材の流動化によって競争力を上げようとしてますよ

自民も含めた非維新政党はすべて反対してますけどね

309名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol0
>>298
緩やかに雇用規制は緩和していってるんだよ
最近転職サイトのCMがやたら多いだろ
維新みたいにスピードが極端じゃないだけ
320名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU20
>>309
さすがに民間がしびれを切らしてやり始めただけ
だけど、国家としてそれがやりやすい法制度にしてる国に勝てるわけない

維新みたいにスピードが極端???
維新の政策ですら世界から見れば、何周も遅れてますけど・・・
あと何十年待ったら、人材の流動性は世界と同じレベルになるの?

↓これが現実なんですよ?もうそんな時間ないですよ、人口減少もするし

30年前は圧倒的で何年も連続で1位だった世界競争力はついに35位
韓国にはぼろ負けで、これから急成長するタイ・マレーシア、そしてインドネシアにまで現時点ですでに負けてるんです

また、豪戦略政策研究所(ASPI)が発表した国別の技術競争力ランキングでも
44項目の技術のうち、37項目で中国が1位
「1軍」は想像以上に圧倒的だった中国と差をあけられてしまった米国。
「2軍」で英国とインドががんばっていて、「3軍」は韓国、ドイツ、オーストラリア、イタリア。
日本が属しているのは、そのあとの「4軍」です。
44項目のうち「トップ5」に入っている項目数でいうと、イランの6項目に対して日本は4項目

335名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol0
>>320
日本が国際競争力から落ちぶれた原因は、2000年頃に議論になった国民総背番号制に野党がマスコミを巻き込んで大反対キャンペーンを展開したことだと思う
あのタイミングで導入してたらアメリカ、インドと競争できてた
少なくとも中国に負けることはなかった
346名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU20
>>335
背番号制だけで成長できるわけねえだろ
どんな言い訳だよ
ってか、それは自民党政権下の話だし

維新は、アメリカのような超競争社会にしようとしてるわけじゃないし
中国のような無法地帯の完全弱肉強食社会にしようとしてるわけでもない
(そりゃあそうした方が成長はするだろうけど)

維新が言ってるのは、普通に人材の流動性もあって、普通に競争のできる国に
ほんの少しでも近づけようよって言ってるだけ

それを「維新みたいにスピードが極端」って・・・さすが保守としか言いようがない
マジで呆れる

353名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TbkQL6GY0
>>346
維新竹中平蔵「公務員、会社員ともに日本総派遣!流動性高める!おい吉村、焼きそばパンな」
南部「パソナ太郎」
361名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol0
>>346
日本はIT化を嫌ったんだよ
アナログに舵を切って人材を流動化させることもなく、従来型産業で、人件費が安い中国、韓国と価格競争で負けたんだよ
つまりあれをきっかけにITによるイノベーションの道を閉ざしたわけ
390名無しさん@恐縮ですID:skZQ8nU20
>>361
だから、それは自民がやったんでしょ?
それを変えようとしてるのが維新なんじゃん

IT化でも何でもそうだけど、何かを変えようとすれば
損する人がいるわけで、必ず抵抗はあるんだよ
それでもやるべき改革をしなきゃいけない
それができる政党が政権を取らないと何も変わらない

IT化だけじゃなくて、日本は白タク解禁さえ未だにやれてないんだよ?
反対派の声に配慮してね

406名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol0
>>390
維新を推してるみたいだが、政権とりたいならまず、公明党に変わって自民と連立を組むことだな
野党連合なんてやると民主党みたいに失敗する
285名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EWYIkIm602023/07/07(金) 18:24:56.92
老害優遇をやめられる政党が出ない限りどこがやっても改善はない
286名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oeRtdaQN02023/07/07(金) 18:25:09.80
海外も物価高で大変だと聞くが
自民のせいなのか?
287名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WNLmK2rz02023/07/07(金) 18:25:31.74
ようここまで日本はボロボロに衰退したよな
自民党すげえ
289名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol0
>>287
他の野党がダメなんだと思う
293名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WNLmK2rz0
>>289
ほぼずっと自民党政権で失われた三十年
296名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol0
>>293
自民党と代われる政党がないのがいけない
299名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WNLmK2rz0
>>296
自民党は無能なのに権力欲だけはすごいから日本はボロボロになったね
313名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mXwid6ol0
>>299
結局は国民認める代わりの政党がないんだよ
290名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HNb9ATVe02023/07/07(金) 18:27:02.92
いつも貧乏人にマウンティングするのに熱でもあるんかな
292名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LoC1IVkx02023/07/07(金) 18:27:12.30
座布豚3枚
295名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0MeUMMfl02023/07/07(金) 18:29:06.01
こんな危機的な状況なのに、政治も変わろうとしない
終わってるよこの国w
297名無しさん@恐縮ですID:475PzS0Z02023/07/07(金) 18:30:10.78
じゃあどこ支持なんですか?
れいわですか?立憲ですか?
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